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I don't really know much about Wajeed

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Little Dragon's chick singer was famed for her work with KOOP, which is more loungey or whatever.

I'm going to check more into Waajeed this weekened.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Waajeed
Will report back.

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

kinda off topic: this 80s jam was remixed by sa-ra...and the original itself fits into this mold w/o the remix effort

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of 80s jams, Phonte Coleman of Little Brother/The Foreign Exchange and a producer named Zo! have an awesome EP of 80s covers called Zo! & Tigallo Love the 80's. There cover of "Take On Me":

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

Where the Erykah New Amerikka fans out on this thread???

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh cool, you made the thread! here's some stuff I've been into recently:

M$NEY "Future": sort of janelle monae-ish futuristic house&b about aliens and shit:

Little Dragon "Test" : whole album is crazy, this swedish experimental deconstrted r&b type stuff with very soulful half-japanese vocalist:

Flying Lotus & Andreya Triana "Tea Leaf Dancers" - Flying Lotus' album Los Angeles is getting lots of love, but this song >>>>>> that album, it's the song that really got me into him last year... really spacey, reverby, hazed-out dilla-esque production and equally hazy vocals:

Dudley Perkins & Georgia Anne Muldow:

will come back to thread with more later, but really we need jaxon to come back lol

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

and Shafiq Husay'n from Sa-Ra released this really cool instumental EP recently, everyone who loved New Amerykah should check it out:

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

damn this thread is some hot fire, keep it up

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

Fair amount of overlap here: platinum pied pipers/sa-ra/the new downbeat-rnb thing: why don't i like this stuff more?

Just happened to listen to Spacek's Curvatia for the first time in a while -- it has held up really well.

For out-there Waajeed R&B, the epitome is the Tiombe Lockhart feature "O'Bloody Days, O'Starry Nights on the Bowery" off The War LP.

Has anyone heard the Shafiq instrumentals on Poo-Bah?

haha xp

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not to get too Dilla on this thread, but he overlaps in places:

Dilla's remix of the first Spacek single back in 2000 should get note
Steve Spacek - Eve (J Dilla Remix)

This was my summer jam!!!Soo off kilter
Lucy Pearl - Without You (Jay Dee Remix)

I'm looking to hearing more from Rozzi Daime. She got a hot song currently on Brownswood Bubblers 3, but no youtube yet.

Her with Sa-Ra in 2007:
Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special

xxp

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Though obviously more of a house record, Moodymann's "Freeki Mutha F cker" (finally out, after all these years) deserves mention here.

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

hi dere

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

so where's the line between stuff like "zo! and tigallo" and stuff like "the cool kids"

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

Cool Kids are a rap group

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

(a v. boring rap group)

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

if youre talking about the retro-humping aspect in particular, the big problem with Cool Kids isn't the retro thing, it's that they can't rap at all

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Before this thread gets too okayplayer-ish, here's Muffy Cakeopia:

Muffy is to Bangladesh as Kelis is to he Neptunes .. she's got cool style, she raps & sings, and has one of the craziest producers behind her... check out "Dope Boi" are retarded:

http://www.myspace.com/muffymommy

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

lmao that was supposed to say "the beat switches in 'dope boi' are retarded"

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

I was all excited about Spacek's Space Shift when I first got it, then I realized that it was so xx-ed out that it almost doesn't exist. Great in places, just wheezy in others.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

Am I weird in that I don't really like much Dilla stuff, but I like almost everything influenced by him? There's something about the way his tracks lurch in particular that I find offputting.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

how great is her bio:

Muffy Cupcakeopia is Hip-Pop, Alternative-Glam Sweet! Muffy was born in Detroit to musical parents. Her mother sang with funk pioneer George Clinton, her father played the BASS and the "Real MAn" who raised her plays the piano and was a musical engineer out of Detroit "dats How he met mommy". From birth she was always encouraged to express herself creatively. As a teen she was unexpectedly uprooted and transplanted to Newark, N.J. Without the security of home, she felt she had to be "everything at once." This move spawned the emergence of Muffy Cupcakeopia. Cute. Independent. Sexy. Tough. Determination lead Muffy to Atlanta, GA. It was there in the southern music capital that acclaimed Platinum manager Coach K began guiding her career. He introduced her to Maverick Super-Producer Bangledesh . Together they have produced ironically titled tracks like "Dope Boy" which have nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with swag. Muffy now laughs at the days when she had to sneak and sell candy in school to buy her prom dress. Her quirky fashion is a reflection of her musical influences. Blondie to Beyonce. Bjork to Badu. All of these women represent independence. Her song "Let Em hate" dismisses anyone who isn't "On what I'm on." This attitude actually inspired her to coin the phrase YummyPops to describe her fans or anyone doing whatever they do to the fullest. YummyPops identify with her Uncensored lyrics and Unapologetic sexuality. Even though her mouth is Tart, she is still Sweet.

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Come See da Duck (8:32:05 PM): yeah I think it's gonna be big next yr
Reverend Dollars (8:32:55 PM): the thread or the music?
Come See da Duck (8:32:57 PM): 'cuz I think J*davey will blow up next year and ppl will become more interested
Come See da Duck (8:33:02 PM): both
Reverend Dollars (8:33:43 PM): I don't think most of this has any chance of becoming mainstream, maybe j*davey, just because jack davey is such a persona haha
Reverend Dollars (8:33:59 PM): do they have a major deal?
Come See da Duck (8:34:09 PM): haha yeah she is, and their new stuff is sounding more accesible
Come See da Duck (8:34:12 PM): yeah they do
Come See da Duck (8:34:14 PM): I forget which label
Come See da Duck (8:34:24 PM): but they have some new stuff on their myspace
Reverend Dollars (8:34:57 PM): ahh, will check out
Come See da Duck (8:35:27 PM): the first song that plays "end of the world (mama's back)" is amazing
Reverend Dollars (8:38:08 PM): okay, this
Reverend Dollars (8:38:16 PM): this j*davey song
Reverend Dollars (8:38:56 PM): I dunno, I'm not sure j*davey stand much chance of being bigger than, say, janelle monae
Come See da Duck (8:39:25 PM): I think she's gonna be big too
Come See da Duck (8:39:37 PM): I mean, everyone seems to like her
Come See da Duck (8:39:45 PM): like, even people I know that aren't into underground stuff
Reverend Dollars (8:39:45 PM): maybe they have more of a sex sells going for them than monae does
Come See da Duck (8:40:11 PM): yeah thats possible beacuase Jack Davey is sexy
Reverend Dollars (8:40:25 PM): well, that's what I was trying to say haha
Reverend Dollars (8:41:00 PM): I think Monae is a ws, too, but she doesn't seem as confortable trading on sex appeal as davey does
Come See da Duck (8:41:17 PM): yeah thats true
Come See da Duck (8:41:26 PM): but I mean, she had a Gap ad campaign
Reverend Dollars (8:41:30 PM): did she?
Come See da Duck (8:41:31 PM): so she's not like
Come See da Duck (8:41:35 PM): a fringe artist
Come See da Duck (8:41:36 PM): yeah
sargnt88 (8:41:53 PM): critics love her
Come See da Duck (8:41:53 PM): I think she could definitely blow up
Reverend Dollars (8:42:00 PM): the new stuff on myspace seems a bit more streamlined then their earlier stuff
Come See da Duck (8:42:08 PM): yeah
Come See da Duck (8:42:17 PM): I mean, if Kelis can find an audience
Come See da Duck (8:42:22 PM): then I think J Davey can
Reverend Dollars (8:42:28 PM): good point
Come See da Duck (8:43:31 PM): speaking of, I should post about Muffy in the sideways thread
Come See da Duck (8:43:32 PM): brb
Reverend Dollars (8:43:37 PM): I could see J*Davey or Monae getting Kelis-big, but not achieving actual superstardom
Reverend Dollars (8:43:39 PM): lol muffy
Reverend Dollars (8:44:13 PM): but, a lot of what I like about J*Davey is they're messy

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

damn, "Dope Boi" is kinda ridiculous

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

still can't believe her name is "Muffy"

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

is this the time when i point out AGAIN that a lot of this was prefigured by Common's Electric Circus (largely inspired by Badu and Dilla? and then Shipley clowns me for repeating myself?, because let's just get that out of the way

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

or is this the time when I say MUFFY CUPCAKEOPIA CALL ME BOO

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

there's a lot other than Electric Circus that prefigures this. (some not even connected to Badu, Dilla or ?uesto) Don't give Com too much credit.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

Although I'm tempted to divide a line between Kedar's Neo-Soul, OK Player, Soulquarians, and this, let's PLEASE not turn this thread into a tiresome debate over what the boundaries are.

If we just remain in the center here of what's what, we can continue with the jams for now.

I'm kinda dissappointed in the G&D project, but the 2Tall feat G&D so far isn't bad.

Waiting for Tiombe Lockhart & J*Davey to come in.

Haven't listend, but Steve Spacek's Space Shift came in. Dimension 5ive has given me a slight bit of cynicism about the listen though.

What more should I know about Bangladesh (insert joek here)?

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

he produced "A Milli" and "What's Your Fantasy" among other things

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

no duh rev but you know i'm partially right darn it

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's easy to keep going back in time on this, the black avant-garde did not even start with sly stone as you know but a lot of this stuff sounds like dubbed-out remixes of there's a riot goin' on

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

I was more talking in regards to the start of this current scene (as I'm sure you were) but lets not get lost in these sort of arguments. Please.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and why do I have to be the big booster for the Foreign Exchange album?

"Daykeeper"

cover of Stevie Wonder's "If She Breaks Your Heart" (my current last.fm count: 43)

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

I got it now rev. Wonderful stuff. Thanks for your rec on this!

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

XD

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

b-b-but i wasn't trying to...OH FORGET IT, I WILL GO BACK TO MY OLD MAN KIOSK AND LISTEN TO GOMEZ

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

I still need to listen to that Foreign Exchange album, I'll try to do it tomorrow.

Anywho, more Swedish weirdness, Kissey Asplund:

http://www.myspace.com/kisseyasplund

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

I meant to ask about Kissey Asplund, I heard something or other by her and liked it.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

This is my THREAD!

Rodney, is it time to xpost this:

http://www.last.fm/group/afrofuturists

???

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

haha, I forgot I started that group! If you are on last fm, please join it!

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

liking this Kissey Asplund track

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Indeed

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Non-rap Bangladesh:

Kelis - "Bossy," "Aww Shit"
Beyonce - "Diva"
Ciara - "Hotline"
M.I.A. - "Hit That"

Shawnna's "RPM" (obv. rap, though) never got enough attention.

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special"

this track is like something from 1992.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Some other releases, not yet specifically cited, for which I will rep:

Pattie Blingh & the Akebulan 5 - Sagala (GA Muldrow plus a little Declaime/Perkins; later Samiyam mix of "To: Re" is also pretty much messed up)

Dabrye's off-center R&B'ish remix of King Midas Sound's "One Ting"

Steve Spacek's pair of solo 12" for Jazzy Sport

Rahsaan Patterson - "Pitch Black," with the Cure bassline and bubbling tarpit FX:

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

still lovin Sy Smith's 'Conflict'

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Sunday, 21 December 2008 14:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

Snippets of Asplund's Dorian Concept-produced 12":

http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_1.mp3
http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_3.mp3

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 15:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Good thread.

chap, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

I see she was mentioned on this thread already (only mention on ILM). Not saying I love this, but I like her voice and kindof like the whole thing. Could stand a harder sound though obviously a harder sound isn't what they're going for.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 19 September 2011 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually, listening to "Leila's Tale" now for the first time and I think I might like that more.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 19 September 2011 04:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Or maybe not.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 19 September 2011 04:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Does Jose James belong in this thread or the reg R&B rolling thread?

raunch you raw (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 19 September 2011 04:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Leila's Tale sounds better to me. Production is pretty cool.

raunch you raw (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 19 September 2011 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

@Thundercatbass Thundercat
I will give my eagle a pompadour and decorate his beak with Christmas lights and macaronies.

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

This Pandr Eyez track is enchanting

http://vimeo.com/28883031

Evan R, Thursday, 13 October 2011 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Does Goapelle belong in here? Maybe this song belongs in the Sade thread, cos its very Sade like.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 05:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

that pandr eyez track is pretty amazing

jaxon, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 06:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm loving Pandr Eyez and Goapelle tracks both.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Second J*Davey album finally seeing the light of day later this month. http://soundcloud.com/illav8r/newdesignerdrug

Sounds great on my first run-through. AND HELL YES! "Dollar or More" is finally gonna be out there. I've been waiting for a finished version of that song for almost three years.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

gotta say i had high hopes and feel kinda let down w/ new j davey. compared to the dangerous sexy randomness of the first double-set, it's bland. dang!

iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Goapele album is waaaaay good. For real.

I'm a HOOS hunter in the winter (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 18 November 2011 05:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Very cohesive, only 9 tracks, no filler.

I'm a HOOS hunter in the winter (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 18 November 2011 05:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Old unreleased cut from 04.

Raphael Saadiq feat common and ledisi 'They Don't Know You'
http://soundcloud.com/mathieuschreyer/ray-ray-feat-common-and-ledisi

dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was skeptical about this because of the name but i like it

flopson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 01:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cool track.

dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 04:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyone else listened to the robert glasper experiment album yet? really liking it on a couple of listens. as well as erykah, there are also guest spots from meshell ndegéocello, king, lupe fiasco, musiq soulchild, chrisette michele, mos def...

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

and i can't stand the original "smells like teen spirit" but this makes the second cover of it i like

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I do want to hear that.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Dunno the best thread to post this in, since it's maybe a little alt-y for the R&B thread yet it's not really that out there or experimental, but I'm really enjoying the new Nylo EP. The closer, in particular, seems of a piece with the most subdued moments on the new Dawn Richard album

Evan R, Friday, 25 May 2012 15:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is fantastic. thanks.

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

i keep forgetting to post this - i saw her open for katy b and she's playing pop montreal soon - local artist who goes by a k u a

http://soundcloud.com/akuamtl

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

this stuff is nice, kind of has a Jessie Ware vibe?

tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah this is real nice. twin shadow affiliated, if that sucks anyone else in. would like to catch her at the pop thing, i don't quite ~get~ the kells theme tho

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:52 (9 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

i'm just gonna put it here before i finish listening cuz it might be of interest - jack davey (of former out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious r&b duo j*davey) has been doing solo stuff this year. lo-fi scuzzy garage rock solo stuff. so far i'm...kinda enjoying it!

http://www.giantstep.net/index.php/2012/12/new-release-jack-davey-l0-f-dlux/

lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 20:45 (6 months ago) Permalink

it's funny to be reminded in "the year of alt R&B" that this stuff still is exists, is often good, and still isn't very big with critics

2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:00 (6 months ago) Permalink

not former! brook's just busy out in miguel's tour band

Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:11 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I looked and we didn't have a thread for King, but here's some new shit.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 05:32 (3 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Jesse Boykins III cutting loose. As usual kinda awkward, kinda awesome:

Tim F, Monday, 15 April 2013 13:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

guess there was brief discussion of this on the Chicago thread. anyways, La Lechera alerted me to this, cuz she knows I am R&B/dance-sympatethic. Not at all sure this belongs on this thread--probably doesn't, in fact--but def feels this might be something that Rev or Tim F might find some enjoyment from:

https://soundcloud.com/feedthedragon

pink lady lemoncankles (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 April 2013 05:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

Denitia and Sene's 'His and Hers' is one of my favorite albums of the year, and this track in particular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbvMcZVcgzs

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 28 April 2013 07:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 28 April 2013 07:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm not sure this is weird enough to qualify but I didn't want to post it in the rolling r&b thread because it's got white people with beards in it and we know how that offends a particular brand of poster. It's from Rare Times' EP "Missionary" which I'm really enjoying. It reminds me of Morgan Geist too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuEiV8hL8lA

boxedjoy, Sunday, 28 April 2013 07:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

Those were both dope. I might have to check out that Denitia and Sene album

pink lady lemoncankles (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 April 2013 16:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

loving the Alla mixtape (which can be downloaded in more convenient fashion here: http://chicagoist.com/2013/03/04/exclusive_alla_to_feed_us_feedthedr.php )

The Reverend, Thursday, 2 May 2013 06:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

is there a discussion on Stacey Barthe going on anywhere?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 May 2013 20:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

I like it although it fits right in with the reg r&b thread.

deeznuggz (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 3 May 2013 20:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

this shuanise song off the new eglo records comp a) sounds nothing like anything else on it (it's a good little label though), b) blew my mind a bit

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:00 (4 weeks ago) Permalink


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