MASSIVE ATTACK - BLUE LINES (1991) POLL

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This has turned out to be one of those albums I could play 7 billion times over the next 30 years and still not get tired of. Hip Hop? No. Trip Hop? Right? I'm biased, I know. But this unexpected album out of nowhere hit me like a ton of bricks in 1991. I would never normally have bought something like this based on some review of what it sounded like, but when I heard "Safe From Harm" playing in a record shop, I said "give me that".

BTW here is "Unfinished Sympathy" video:

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Unfinished Sympathy 19
Safe From Harm 11
Blue Lines 6
Hymn Of The Big Wheel 5
Five Man Army 2
Daydreaming 2
Be Thankful For What You've Got 1
One Love 0
Lately 0


Watch Beer, Drink People (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 22 November 2008 03:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Blue Lines

jed_, Saturday, 22 November 2008 04:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Safe From Harm was my least favourite and it still is.

jed_, Saturday, 22 November 2008 04:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

safe from harm vs. be thankful

safe from harm takes it

BIG HOOS enjoys a cold mindbeer (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 22 November 2008 08:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

just as long as my baby's safe from harm
tonight

lex pretend, Saturday, 22 November 2008 08:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

i used to own both of shara nelson's solo albums! i think they were good...haha you can get the first one for 1p on amazon marketplace now :/

lex pretend, Saturday, 22 November 2008 08:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

I vote for "Five Man Army" every time this album gets polled.

Venom Boner (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 November 2008 08:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

I once had to get a ride with a rather overbearing acquaintance. I had made up a tape of this for the journey. It was whipped it out of the machine and tossed within twenty seconds - "What is *this* boring shit?!" - and replaced with Strike's U Sure Do on a loop. Good times.

So my vote goes to Safe From Harm - sorry for not sticking up for you all those years ago.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

TBF "U Sure Do" on a loop wd be dope.

Venom Boner (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 November 2008 09:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I know. The only thing that stops me giving him the benefit of the doubt is that he's a complete prick.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 22 November 2008 10:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sorry to be boring, but Unfinished Sympathy.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Saturday, 22 November 2008 11:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

US vs 5 Man Army.

chap, Saturday, 22 November 2008 11:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Safe from Harm. Great album, except for some of the vocals here and there.

Vision, Saturday, 22 November 2008 11:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

You can free my world
You can free my mind
Just as long as my my baby's safe from harm tonight

Mikaael Jackson (The Reverend), Sunday, 23 November 2008 04:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Safe From Harm" is the one that sounds the most like the better album that followed. So that one.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 23 November 2008 11:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

ladies and gentlemen, Geir Hongro!

Jake Sexchamp (Matt P), Sunday, 23 November 2008 12:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Unf SYmp

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Sunday, 23 November 2008 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm reallly into hymn of the big wheel

cutty, Sunday, 23 November 2008 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 28 November 2008 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

i used to own both of shara nelson's solo albums! i think they were good...haha you can get the first one for 1p on amazon marketplace now :/

― lex pretend, Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:44 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark

Down that Road still gets rotation from me.

yellowcard holds the text of a yellow card warning (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 28 November 2008 00:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Daydreaming".

Despite my reservations about them using Wally Badarou's "Mambo" for it. I mean, they use the whole bloody thing!

sam500, Friday, 28 November 2008 02:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

the title track

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 28 November 2008 03:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 29 November 2008 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah- this record is a classic- It's my thought that Kanye West has failed to reference Massive Attack as his current output's sonic blueprint-
and the kids think he's breaking ground- it was broken a long time ago.

CPS, Saturday, 29 November 2008 01:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Gah, forgot to vote.

chap, Saturday, 29 November 2008 16:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Great album, except for some of the vocals here and there.

Are you talking about Del Naja's rapping? Cos I've always liked it.

chap, Saturday, 29 November 2008 16:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm the only one who mentioned hymn, but 4 other votes. WHO!?

cutty, Saturday, 29 November 2008 16:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

Are you talking about Del Naja's rapping? Cos I've always liked it.

― chap, Saturday, November 29, 2008 4:44 PM

I mean some of Horace Andy's vocals, particularly on "One Love".

Vision, Saturday, 29 November 2008 21:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

its vision i love
and not
anotha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a

BIG HOOS is those british white steens (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 29 November 2008 21:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

― Vision, Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:07 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 November 2008 21:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

You have it right Hoos, it's precisely those gimmicky, exaggerated phrase endings I dislike. I mean, what is it with Jamaican singers and the way they pretty much lose their singing abilities at some point?

Vision, Saturday, 29 November 2008 21:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm glad to see Blue Lines the title track at #3, where it really belongs after the two stunner singles. Good work, ILM.

Watch Beer, Drink People (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 30 November 2008 08:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

What I mean is, unsarcastically and unironically, I'm happy with this poll. Thanks!

Watch Beer, Drink People (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 30 November 2008 09:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

shit I should have voted for One Love

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Sunday, 30 November 2008 14:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Remember when they changed their name to Massive

Mark, Sunday, 30 November 2008 19:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

my copy of this has the name as Massive, Massive Attack is nowhere to be seen

nate woolls, Sunday, 30 November 2008 19:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

mine too. it's a vinyl copy in a silkscreen printed mailer.

jed_, Sunday, 30 November 2008 20:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

So tonight "Safe from Harm" came on shuffle, and my girlfriend asked if I was listening to "Beautiful Disaster" by 311. I had never heard the 311 song before, but I do see the resemblance (sadly) -- listen to the intro/bassline part:

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 08:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

the rapping on this is :(

p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

okay woah ho! 311...that brings back weird memories. I was in love with someone who mentioned that famous 311 song. Can't recall it now. Not sure I want to know...

think you're a fookin' bat, eh? (Bimble), Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

dont know if this has been discussed already but if you google theres a few old radio shows massive attack did for kiss fm in london around the time this album came out that are pretty great.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 19 February 2010 10:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

weird

Pete Tong granted restraining order against former Massive Attack singer

Radio 1 DJ Pete Tong has been granted a restraining order against former Massive Attack singer Shara Nelson.

The DJ told a West London magistrates court that the singer had harassed him with nuisance calls and told his colleagues that she was his manager, reports The Sun.

During the court proceedings, Nelson even gave her surname as Tong and claimed she had married the DJ and had his child. Tong confimed that neither of these statements are correct.

Nelson, who sang with Massive Attack on their 1991 hit single 'Unfinished Sympathy' and on a number of other tracks on their debut album 'Blue Lines', has been banned indefinitely from contacting Tong or his friends and family. She has also been issued with a 12-month community order and will have to complete 80 hours of community service.

A spokesman for Pete Tong declined to comment about the case.

http://www.nme.com/news/massive-attack/58583

jed_, Thursday, 11 August 2011 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Blimey!

Mark G, Friday, 12 August 2011 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's just crazy

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Friday, 12 August 2011 14:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

really sad :/

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 August 2011 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess you could say that for shara nelson it's all gone a bit...

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 August 2011 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol. not a great picture of PT though. must be sad for him, knowing his life has gradually conformed to the idiom made out of his name.

bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Friday, 12 August 2011 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just want to say that i'm particularly happy about that joke

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 August 2011 09:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno, two things:

1) I can't think of someone saying "Shara Nelson" without it sounding like PTong saying it.

2) The lyrics to "Unfinished Sympathy".

I guess he's not going to be playing it again, ever.

Mark G, Monday, 15 August 2011 09:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

'they should introduce her to andy kershaw' - radio 4 gag writer who's almost crushing it

you cant care about popular culture right now and not partake in (history mayne), Monday, 15 August 2011 09:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

why pine for your fucking youth unless you're dissatisfied with your life and your self as they are now?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 09:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

why pine for your fucking youth unless you're dissatisfied with your life and your self as they are now?

Because people have kids and mortgages and stomach ulcers and bad knees and work stress, Lex, and without those things society would crumble and we'd all die and your magical zesty exciting life would go to shit, too. You can be entirely recobnciled to (and, indeed, happy, and actually heart-burstingly delirious) with all of those things, and still go a bit misty-eyed over dancing in the disco when you were 16.

Because nostalgia can be quite a pleasant thing in certain circumstances. Didactically dismissing it out of hand shows a lack of empathy for people who do engage in a bit of it. I doubt, in fact I know, that most people our age don't walk around in a permanent 90s fug, crying at the thought that no one will ever release a single as good as Unfinished Sympathy or Country House again. It's not the evil force that you seem to think it is. People's lives and tastes change, and every so often they want a reminder of how things were; and that's fine.

More specifically, I don't think many of the people who engage in discourse on ILM are the inveterate, helpless, perpetual nostalgia sufferers that you seem to be wanting to straw-man; that fact that we're here, talking about new music (and old music) says we're still hungry and engaged. My point is just that we're not engaging with the kinds of things that the actual bona fide youth are engaging with. Probbaly not even you.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 09:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

why pine for your fucking youth unless you're dissatisfied with your life and your self as they are now?

some things become better, others are lost forever, it's the nature of life. nostalgia is hardly owned or dominated by the crappy reissue industry, lost youth or mortality is at the root of huge swathes of the greatest works of art ever made. it's a matter of debate which old things were better and which were worse.

ironically you're arguing that nostalgia today is worse than it was before...

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 09:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

there is a serious difference i think between nostalgia as a personal emotion/experience and nostalgia as a form of cultural expression/production. and i might concede that the former is an unchanging aspect of human nature (tho i don't believe it) but i'm certain that the latter changes thru time and social landscape

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 09:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

Lex is fronting on this a bit, I know full well that if he was at a house party and someone put on Relevee or In White Rooms he would lose his shit and maybe get a bit misty eyed about peak raving days. But that would be defended on the grounds that those records also sound great NOW and in the moment, and arguing about "nostalgia" seems to be denying Blue Lines that same privilege here.

Maybe there are 18 year olds listening to Blue Lines still, it's part of the core DNA of modern pop music, probably more so than the Beatles nowadays. Although if I had to guess which Massive Attack song is most popular among young people it would probably be Teardrop. But none of those kids will be buying the overpriced remastered reissue.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 09:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

it makes sense to think of some places and eras as more culturally nostalgic than others, i think, even while we recognise that public culture is far from monolothic and human beings are not reducible to the product of a culture

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 09:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

In any case house music (and post-UKG British dance music) are constantly reappropriating and recontextualising the classics. Think how many times 'Show Me Love' has re-emerged over the years.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 09:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

reissuing a record might just give it to people who hadn't heard it... it's hardly as if the only reissues that ever happen are massive canonical classics, but even so, not everyone has heard every massive canonical classic.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 10:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

xpost not to mention all the 2-step revivalism that Lex likes.

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 13:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

i think people do that kind of thing to prove something to the world, like they've "put their money where their mouth is" in terms of their interests. a bit like a football supporter buying all the merchandise.

This and Noodle Vague's points OTM, I think there's an element of wanting to have your Absolute All-time Favourite Classic Album(s) stand above and apart from the rest of your record collection, buying something like that Screamadelica boxed set in the massive tin is one step removed from literally putting the album on a pedestal. It doesn't really bother me, I can never afford these things anyway.

I've no idea what '90s music young people listen to or where Massive Attack might fit in but would be interested to know.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

At our university open day earlier this month I spotted four teenage boys wearing Beatles t-shirts, one wearing a Who t-shirt, and one wearing a Pink Floyd t-shirt, but none in Blur or Massive Attack t-shirts.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

why pine for your fucking youth unless you're dissatisfied with your life and your self as they are now?

the weird thing to me is that you seem determined to align your "life and your self now" with cultural commodities that are, afaict, very consciously made for people much younger than yourself. it's like your pining for/identifying with other people's youths in an effort to maintain a perpetual state of youthiness.

says the armchair psychologist

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

personally I don't think things were "better" in the 80s or the 90s or any other decade in which I was more directly/heavily invested in youth culture, but it is interesting to remember and reflect on things. this is a basic human reaction to living in a world where time only flows in one direction.

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

also curious about when lex's cutoff point for listening to a particular album/song is. 6 months? a year? 5 years? at what point is it no longer acceptable to listen to something because it's "too old"?

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

it's like your pining for/identifying with other people's youths in an effort to maintain a perpetual state of youthiness.

rejecting nostalgism can also be a way to try to retain one's youth. "oh I'm not nostalgic, that's for OLD PEOPLE".

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

Much of the most exciting music in the world is made by and for young people and has been for like 100 years. Shakey what's your cutoff for legitimately enjoying it?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

also curious about when lex's cutoff point for listening to a particular album/song is. 6 months? a year? 5 years? at what point is it no longer acceptable to listen to something because it's "too old"?

i listen to old music all the time

getting excited about re-released box set nonsense is another matter

teenpop is for everyone

lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

i first heard this album in 2010 and i'm listening to it an awful lot. i like to imagine how cool my life would have been, if i'd been listening to this in 1991. am i nostalgic? btw i'm old.

you got mayo in my paleo (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

Much of the most exciting music in the world is made by and for young people and has been for like 100 years. Shakey what's your cutoff for legitimately enjoying it?

I'm not particularly concerned with the age of the people making music or when it came out, or even, really when I was first exposed to it. I do not, however, define "my life and my life now" (to use lex's terminology) by any age-related music criteria. I don't think listening to teen pop makes me younger or more closely identifies me with "WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW" or anything like that. similarly I don't think that listening to music that I first listened to when I was 15 is necessarily nostalgia - sometimes it's just interesting to revisit stuff.

it is true I don't like modern teen pop, primarily because it's working with a sonic palette that I find harsh and grating 9 times out of 10. That being the case, I don't feel compelled to listen to it just because it's made by young people/targeted at young people. I don't give a shit about that. My interest in top 40 pop stuff kind of depends on the era and some periods have been better than others - the current period just happens to largely be a wasteland imho.

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

I don't think you actually understand the point under discussion here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:09 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm just needling lex for his weird critical foibles

what point do you think I'm missing?

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

You don't really have a handle on the critical foibles (partly because Lex isn't making himself particularly clear here) but also what we're talking about really is the commodification of nostalgia.

There's probably a side issue here that all-pervasive fetishisation of 'youth' throughout popular culture actually DOES lead to a lot of people feeling that they're past-it by the age of 30, which I suspect does the reissues industry no harm either, but that's another debate.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

eh fair enough.

I agree with others here who have already pointed out that current nostalgia commodification efforts seem very much driven by the industry just following the money ("who still buys music = old people! what do old people like? old stuff!") and in that sense yeah I have no use for it either. the only reissues I buy are things I was not able to previously get my hands on for whatever reason. I don't need a Screamadelica or Blur or Massive Attack or Stone Roses box, I have the originals if I ever want to listen to them.

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

Wondering if remastering of acclaimed albums will dramatically drop off in a few more years as we get to 20th anniversary of 'over-compression'.

nashwan, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

Maybe they'll remaster What's The Story (Morning Glory) so it's quieter and more spacious and you can actually hear Bonehead strumming a lute in the background.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

I thin Shakey's hit something there though, in terms of why Lex hates nostalgia so much - it seems like a hatred beyond just the commodification of the concept. If Lex thinks its bad because its about pining for your youth to the point of recapturing it, or trying to, then isn't staying au fait (and deeply involved) with the pop cultural loves of people much younger than you a similar kind of way of trying to recapture / perpetuate youth?

Also, Lex might say "teen pop is for everyone" but I have a sneaking suspicion he'd be grossed out by, say, David Cameron dancing to Azaelia Banks. Which is not beyond the realms of possibility.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

But yeah, I'd totally not be surprised by remasters in a couple of years trying to make things more nuanced and less squished.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

AZB is not teenpop
I'm amused by the Cameron appreciation of it. Better than all those Labour MPs tweeting shamelessly about indie

lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

I agree that teenpop is for everyone in the sense that all music is for everyone, sure. but old people engage with teenpop in a different way and for different reasons than teenagers do - an old person who acts/thinks/feels like a teenager is a distinctly creepy and sad thing, for ex.

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

the other irony is that people like lex who obsessively lionize/romanticize youth are precisely the kind of people that become excessively prone to nostalgia

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

perhaps fetishize is a better word there

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

I don't think Lex is consciously fetishizing 'youth' specifically, but rather a set of attributes which all signify 'youth' when you add them together.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

okay sure

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

gonna stick with youthiness

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ you guys if you can't be arsed to engage with swathes of modern music because you've mentally bundled it into a package labelled "Youth culture - past that now - don't understand" that's on you but at least recognise that not everyone wants to do that past the age of 30. And you're not actually in any position to draw any real conclusions on the people who don't do that because you're not actually engaging with any of the music they're listening to.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

if you can't be arsed to engage with swathes of modern music because you've mentally bundled it into a package labelled "Youth culture - past that now - don't understand"

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

uh lol hueg sorry

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

It's hardly strawmanning, it's what you're both doing in this very thread.

If Lex thinks its bad because its about pining for your youth to the point of recapturing it, or trying to, then isn't staying au fait (and deeply involved) with the pop cultural loves of people much younger than you a similar kind of way of trying to recapture / perpetuate youth?

Or...

I have the tastes and habits of a 33-year-old professional man; I haven't a fucking clue what 15-year-old kids are doing now (though I suspect it may involve Rizzle Kicks and drugs).

As if 33-year old men are a monolith.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm not even trying to Cap'n Save-A-Lex here because I think he's basically wrong about nostalgia here but some of the attempts at trying to rationalise what he's saying deserve a serious eyeroll as well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

can't be arsed to engage with swathes of modern music because you've mentally bundled it into a package labelled "Youth culture - past that now - don't understand"

but nobody's really said that? shakey said he doesn't like the aesthetics

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

Matt, dude, I'm not rationalising, I'm trolling.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:00 (8 months ago) Permalink

It's hardly strawmanning, it's what you're both doing in this very thread.

those aren't my posts bro

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

fwiw I agree w the first bit quoted, the second bit not so much, that's Scick Mouthy's POV

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

As if 33-year old men are a monolith.

but 15 yr olds are?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

(Sorry, I misread and thought the first bit was actually yours, although I was attempting to argue with both of you at once)

xpost - of course not.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

i spotted a massive attack appropriation i hadn't identified before just today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rIhwNTTmZ5s

jed_, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:03 (8 months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIhwNTTmZ5s

jed_, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:03 (8 months ago) Permalink

|i was looking back to see if you were looking back at me to see me looking back at you"

jed_, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Okay so

piscesx, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

I can't hear any difference over my phone speaker, but those extracts are mouthwateringly put together. Also:

The only thing that stops me giving him the benefit of the doubt is that he's a complete prick.

former me making current me laugh

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:57 (6 months ago) Permalink


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