NEW AMERYKAH, POLL 1 (4th World War)

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
The Healer 13
Soldier 5
The Cell 4
Telephone 3
Twinkle 3
Me 2
That Hump 1
Master Teacher 0
Amerykahn Promise 0
My People 0
Honey 0


mujeres con dos, tres, quatro, cinco tetas (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

"The Cell" blows my mind everytime I hear it

mujeres con dos, tres, quatro, cinco tetas (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Me" is the perfect sequel to "On and On" -- the story, taken up 10 years later.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

a bit more coherent, even

mujeres con dos, tres, quatro, cinco tetas (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Healer, hands down. I love the album as a whole but there's something really entrancing about the repetitive mantra and Erykah's tone. After that, Amerykahn Promise and the bit at the end of Me about her mother where she's improvising with the trumpet.

the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

"That Hump"

Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

"The Healer" reminds me of those second or third tracks on Maxiquaye: it's eerie, displaced, ethereal in an almost metallic way, and sexy in a way you can't place.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

My second pick would be "Soldier", with the bridge that keeps on going through several points that you expect it to end, getting denser and more jumbled all the while.

mujeres con dos, tres, quatro, cinco tetas (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

soldier! is like my favourite song this year. it's so good to walk the streets to. there's that little passage of ooh-a-ooh, hey, hey, uhha-rr, hey, hey, up there with like ain't no mountain high enough in abstract noise making terms.

schlump, Saturday, 25 October 2008 03:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Healer" is just sublime.

maciej recognizing trill, Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

I vote "whole album," but "The Cell" is otherworldly.

Eric H., Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

I also love the Obama intro to "Soldier."

Eric H., Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

fwiw, I don't think that's Obama

mujeres con dos, tres, quatro, cinco tetas (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Shoot. I guess I fixated on the word "change" and assumed it was him. I don't recognize the speech and the clip's too short.

Eric H., Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

i vote whole album, too. HOW CAN I CHOOSE?

horseshoe, Saturday, 25 October 2008 05:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

"That Hump" because of the Switch "I Call Your Name" 'sample'.

I really wish the tracks developed more, though. "The Cell" obviously has a sweet bass line, but the track just repeats the whole way through! I just wish the grooves went somewhere.

Patrick South, Saturday, 25 October 2008 05:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

i chose telephone, but really this whole album is genius.

MacElby's Puddin'© (stevie), Saturday, 25 October 2008 12:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

where's 'real thang'? it's not my favourite but it's just so righteous - i think it and 'honey', the most straightforwardly tuneful tracks on the album, work really well as bonus tracks. 'real thang' is endlessly quotable too - "got to balance your chakra, raise your octave to opera", "your double helix gon' triple", "shatter glasses like ella" and most of all the spoken ad libs: "sir, i think you better tell your soldiers that they need to - FALL BACK! cuz we comin' with a centrifugal force, it's about to get metaphysical y'all"

anyway it's between 'the cell', 'the healer' and 'soldier' for me, but more than any other album this year it just feels wrong to pinpoint particular favourites, it's such a cohesive work overall.

lex pretend, Saturday, 25 October 2008 18:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

i dont have real thang on my copy!

t_g, Saturday, 25 October 2008 18:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

holy shit. just found real thang. it's the b-side to "the healer" 12" righteous is right. DAMN. is this supposed to be off of part 2 or something? and when do we get return of the ankh anyway?

the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 25 October 2008 19:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think "Real Thang" (which I haven't heard) is only on socialist British pressings or some shit like that.

R$ (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 October 2008 19:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

didn't she do that with i want you on worldwide underground?, too?
kinda makes me wish i hadn't waited to move to america before buying a copy.

schlump, Saturday, 25 October 2008 21:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

"I Want You" is right in the middle of my American copy of WWU. Best song on the album, too.

R$ (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 October 2008 21:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

ah o k. i haven't got that one yet, i'm not sure why i thought so. maybe there are other bonus tracks on uk one. such a perfect song:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1uxsc_erykah-badu-i-want-you_music

schlump, Saturday, 25 October 2008 22:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

"That Hump"

― Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Friday, October 24, 2008 10:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

joe 40oz (deej), Saturday, 25 October 2008 22:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

"the cell", but having to pick one is near impossible

tricky, Sunday, 26 October 2008 02:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

haha 'real thang; is uk-only'?! i will upload tomorrow when not fall over drunx

lex pretend, Sunday, 26 October 2008 02:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

UH HUH

lex pretend, Sunday, 26 October 2008 02:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think i want to vote for "the healer" now

tricky, Sunday, 26 October 2008 02:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

Twinkle- i love the eerieness of the production, the way her voice gets twisted all the way through the song and that verse about warlocks and witches with ill glitches.

Christyles, Sunday, 26 October 2008 05:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Telephone

LIL HOOSANE (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 26 October 2008 05:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't know why, but nothing on the album has grabbed me yet -- I think my ears are so conditioned to track-only, singles listening that stuff just blows by if there's not a hook (i.e. I'd vote for "whole album" too). Looking for "Real Thang" now -- on the version I have there's a track just listed as "Bonus Track," but that appears to be "Honey"

mitya, Sunday, 26 October 2008 06:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

this album is great... i voted for "soldier," though it was really a tie between it, "the healer" and "the cell"

Professor Respect, Sunday, 26 October 2008 06:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Me was a close 2nd

LIL HOOSANE (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 26 October 2008 06:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

'real thang'

lex pretend, Sunday, 26 October 2008 09:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Telephone

Pottie Skippen (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 26 October 2008 11:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

hip-hop
is bigger than religion

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Sunday, 26 October 2008 13:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

master teacher pt 2.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 26 October 2008 13:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Right I just listened to this to decide. It's Me, The Cell or 2nd part of Master Teacher... or Telephone.. one of those anyway.

mmmm, Sunday, 26 October 2008 17:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

cell is way overrated. it sounds like something from 91.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm compelled to admit I prefer the tornadic first half of "master teacher," just to balance the scales.

Eric H., Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

cell nu amerykah pt. 1 is way overrated.
― titchyschneiderMk2

I think this is what you meant to write.

Eric H., Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Plus, sounds like 1991 sounds like awesome.

Eric H., Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

yep

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

"The Cell" sounds like something from 1973, specifically, something by Stevie Wonder.

R$ (The Reverend), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

stevie wonder was using lightweight breakbeats and blanded out synths in 1973?

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 26 October 2008 22:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

the whole album sounds like it wishes it lived back in 1973. is that good or bad? i dunno. but that doesn't mean i wouldn't take Call Me and Fresh (and Burnin') over this had ir been released then.

THE TOWER OF HUMANOID ANTIBODIES!!! (Ioannis), Sunday, 26 October 2008 22:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

there are about 3 or 4 tracks tops that sound like they could have been made back then. even then, only amerykahn promise sounds *properly* retro, everything else in that old school soul/jazz/funk vein sounds like its been made recently.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 26 October 2008 22:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Cell has synths?

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Sunday, 26 October 2008 22:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

The wobbly bassline and finger snaps in "The Healer" set an incredibly nice vibe in the room everytime i put this on, so I'm going with that. I must say, I don't really like the first track, though. I think it's a little too aggressive sounding, and seems out of place with the rest of the album.

Dan S, Sunday, 26 October 2008 22:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'd go for 'get munny' today.

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think "gone baby, don't be long" would win

has anyone listened to both straight through consecutively?

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not yet. I think the moods are a little too divergent for it to work.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

the winner would almost certainly be "window seat" or "get munny" imo

51ocki (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

btw 4WW wz #133 in Pitchfork's Top 200 of the 00's

don't let it rest on the President's desk (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

it was in their top 10 of 08 too

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

no it wasn't, it was 13 of '08...

i guess it doesn't really matter...just irks me a little.

don't let it rest on the President's desk (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

r&b is still a pretty ghettoized genre critically

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

this record doesn't really fall into the category of r&b as it stands in modern terms tho -- and anyway, badu (and other older artists like r. kelly or maxwell or d'angelo if he puts out a new record ever) exists outside that sort of ghetto anyway -- this record should've been a huger deal than it was, but it's hard to find real geeking out about non-rock, non-rap records outside of places like, um, ilm because there are rarely publications that cater to those audiences critically

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

can we please not break out the small violins for the critical standing of an album that finished 5th in P&J

ruh roh I'm having a scooby snack (some dude), Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

wow that's your most fatherly display name ever

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

fatherly as in dad joke? old reference? you know scooby wasn't scrappy doo's dad, right?

ruh roh I'm having a scooby snack (some dude), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dont get it

51ocki (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

dad-ish reference

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

are you familiar with longtime poster 'uh oh I'm having a fantasy'? xpost

dude scooby doo was on cartoon network and shit when you were a kid just like when i was a kid

ruh roh I'm having a scooby snack (some dude), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok im giggling now

51ocki (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

i know, i mean that it's silly in a dad-ish way, not old in a dad-ish way

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

i giggled too

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok so dad joke more than dad reference

ruh roh I'm having a scooby snack (some dude), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

yes

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

just realized that i haven't thought a display name to be as alternately good/bad/hilarious since m@tt's El Garbage

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

sorry about whining over nothing

don't let it rest on the President's desk (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

nah i mean shit yeah it's better than Kid A, but it's not like i really expected any 2008 album, no matter how good, to really represent on end-of-decade lists like that, at least not this soon. it was actually the 7th highest '08 album on the Pitchfork list, so really it climbed a bit from being ranked 13th a year earlier.

ruh roh I'm having a scooby snack (some dude), Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

To be fair, it is the best album of the decade, so it's not "whining" to point out any list/poll that doesn't reflect that.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

meh, diff't strokes -- half the albums on my list that k3v linked upthread were on no other blog or publication's list, so i have a hard time thinking of it as insufficiently appreciated

ruh roh I'm having a scooby snack (some dude), Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

'that hump' was my vote i think -- the chorus is just great

deej khalifa (deej), Monday, 29 March 2010 05:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah I mustn't have voted in this cuz "that hump" has been my fave on this from the beginning. that bassline is crazy, the vocals, the lyrics... it's one of my top 5 badu songs easily. I never really got the crazy love for "the healer," i don't really understand why it won this poll by such a large margin, it's one of the lesser tracks on the album imo (though the album is pretty much perfect... but still, "that hump," "twinkle," "the cell," "soldier," "telephone," "me," >>>>>>>>>>>> "the healer"....)

The Brainwasher, Monday, 29 March 2010 05:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

i agree, altho i still like healer more than 'master teachers'

deej khalifa (deej), Monday, 29 March 2010 05:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Is there a thread for the second one? I cannot find it if there is. Anyway this is a totally perfect happy summer album, totes didn't expect it to sound this blissed out.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

most of the talk about it is here Erykah Badu: C /D, S&D

Aerosol, Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

ty ty ty

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

"That Hump"

― Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Friday, October 24, 2008 10:34 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

otm

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 September 2010 09:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Ha its 5am and That Hump is hitting hard (tho less hard now that I just finished giggling at the ship/sarge scooby exchange)

Blah Sabbath (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 8 January 2012 09:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

guapele (The Reverend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 11:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Did we ever poll the second? We should. (Or both together, even.)

dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

And there are so many easter eggs, lyrically and sonically! I always discover something new when I listen to it. It's a complex motherfucking work. Just about a week ago, I first noticed that "My People" ends with the words "Good morning. Did you have a Dream?" And I capitilize Dream intentionally, because whether she was referring to the American (Amerykahn?) Dream or, I think more likely, MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech, she intends to load the word with more meaning than its M-W definition would indicate.

― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:07 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah absolutely - i get annoyed when people overuse adjectives like "meaningful" but it absolutely applies to new amerykah in the sense that every word, note, inflection, every last detail in the arrangement is there for a reason, and even the most minute element of it can spark off these chains of thought just like yours

― lex pretend, Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, even things in the sequencing. It's no accident that "Me" is followed by "My People". She's already claimed her people as her in the former song. "I salute you [insert your name here] because you are me". It's also no mistake that she goes from grown folks acting all niggerish and not taking responsibility for their kids in "The Cell" to lamenting how those same kids "don't know their language...don't know their god" in "Twinkle" to the epiphany of "wait....what if there were no niggers, only master teachers?"

― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:23 PM Bookmark

Wait, but that's the Dream she has! You even have Curtis Mayfield playing herald for her with the sample of him at the beginning of "Master Teacher" repeating "dreams..." over and over.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 16 November 2012 08:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

*still learning things about this album*

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 16 November 2012 08:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is still my favorite album of my lifetime, bout to put it on for the third time in a row.

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 16 November 2012 09:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

She's playing NYE in Oakland with The Coup I believe.

Everybody did shit, art happened! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 November 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

rev otm

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

That Hump

J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

second verse is the best vocal performance of her career imo

J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Only smoked a joint or two betwixt me and you.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 May 2013 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

that hump makes me sob tbh

horseshoe, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

always feel like whiney is going to pop up and take me to task for ^ that sentiment, but it's true

horseshoe, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just got to find a way
of liiiiiving
check tooo check
just tryin to pay my rent and i can feel it
coming down around me and this children
;_;

horseshoe, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

can i just posit the brother on her floor as the punctum here

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

my brother's sleeping on my floor
a bitch could use a little moooooore

horseshoe, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

otm

horseshoe, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink


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