Lady Gaga, Pussycat Dolls and a Taxonomy of Vacuous Pop

this is an interesting point from tim's OP

"Just Dance" reminds of "Piece of Me" but sounds so rote and bored-with-itself in comparison.

i think this is otm but (not to jump through too many backwards logic hoops here) it's kind of what makes the song attractive to me (lyrically at least). gaga seems bored with everything BUT dancing i.e. "what's the name of this club?/i can't remember but it's alright" - which i read as "this club kinda sucks but let's dance" which i like along with "i lost my phone but let's dance" and "what's the name of this record idk let's dance" etc etc

as it being sonically boring - yeah idk i could feel that. the keyboard bit at the beginning sounds exactly like lollipop/low

also the radio down here has been playing the remix with kardinal offishal subs out the o donnis verse and the bridge iirc and is way better imo

I really like the theme of "Just Dance" and (unusually for a pop song) I think the lyrics look a lot better written down than when they're sung.

At work, I have started a very successful rumour about Lady Gaga having a penis.

http://www.newnownext.com/images/2008/08/12/ladygagatrl_1.jpg

"I don't know what you're talking about"

think some of the paint is coming off that action figure's legs

hey Tim I don't know if you've spoken about it elsewhere but what do you think of natalie basingthwaite's "alive"? it's probably my favourite non-indie thing of '08 next to the presets..

I quite like "Alive" - of all the schaffel-pop efforts of 2008 it's the one that most openly and slavishly copies the blueprint put down by Rachel Stevens in 2004 (ironically, people used to claim Rachel of just copying Goldfrapp), but it's probably the best of the bunch too.

http://idolator.com/5151472/congrats-lady-gaga-youre-more-annoying-than-katy-perry-now

on the one hand it;s nice to be proved right.

on the other, GNNNNNGGGHHHHH when will she just fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off.

it's weird because she is gross. who would want to have sex with her

She has ALWAYS been more annoying than Katy Perry!

"I dig way down into my soul and I find that place where I was born to be an artist, and it carries me through. I am everything about what I do. Every marrow in my bones and blood is for this work. GaGa is the greatest creative journey of my life."

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She is pretty gross.

"I dig way down into my soul and I find that place where I was born to be an artist, and it carries me through. I am everything about what I do. Every marrow in my bones and blood is for this work. GaGa is the greatest creative journey of my life."

― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

lemme point out that she went to NYU

Just like Dalton from Road House.

i am not sure why i dislike lady gaga as much as i do. as tim said, she has all the elements necessary for an infatuation for me but somehow she just pushes it all too far. as with the popstars i do like, which include britney, there still some human element i can cling to. britney became more interesting as soon as she became more human. with lady gaga it all seems a bumbling art project gone wrong. i like robotic voices but only if they are presented by something which seems human. also the name. urgh, so so so wrong.

ugh hipsters?

that quote could've come from any solo girl out there. big deal.

i like the mask she wears in the new vid (esp. as it hides her annoying hair).

I am still somewhat convinced she is a tranny.

I don't think so. She styles herself like one.

Oh it's very clear that she isn't, or that she's had surgery if she has, but almost everything about her screams TRANNY!

http://open.salon.com/files/victor_victoria%5B1%5D1229458627.jpg

I might like her more of if she was a tranny. Except then I think: the drag queens who are like Lady Gaga I'm not so much into. I prefer my drag queens more... blowsy? Mrs Havisham-esque?

Which is why that chick from Scissor Sisters going solo probably would have been a better version of Lady Gaga than Lady Gaga is, esp. if she'd gone hyper-commercial too.

She'd be like the tranny version of Fergie, rather than the tranny version of Christina Aguilera's new look.

I am trying to imagine the tranny version of Fergie and all that comes to mind is:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/abc_alley_061212_ssh.jpg

fergie is already her own tranny version, surely

Well the same applies to Christina Aguilera surely?

Maybe this points to the super-double-pointlessness of the entire Lady Gaga Project.

also:

standard lily allen interview with jonathan ross, but wait for the gaga mention at 3mins in. it's worth it.

Maybe this points to the super-double-pointlessness of the entire Lady Gaga Project.

^^^ pretty much OTM

since there's not teenpop thread i'm just gonna post the video for this dope demi lovato song in here

who needs avril right??

sounds like if paramore were writing songs when they were 15

Woah, I really like that. The way she sings "some may say I need to be afraid of losing everything..." makes it sound deep. Deeper than the song actually is admittedly. Is the guy interviewing her supposed to be a send-up of Perez Hilton?

http://s.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/1/18/23/what-lady-gaga-really-looks-like-20206-1232337767-4.jpg

lol

omg that's not her right?

oh its her

oooo
mmm
gggg

http://ultimate-ladygaga.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=25

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

O_O

^just as a prophylactic against any "everybody has a bad shot sometimes" comments, she looks like arthur kane in every single one of those

also she seems to be looking like that deliberately

still!

she's having a gigantic nose deliberately

that wig

ugh son

would not poke 'er face

speechless

Looks almost like Amy Winehouse there. :)

Lady Ga Ga is one of many examples that extremely mainstream manufactured chart pop sounds better now than it has done for 25 years btw. Roughly because it sounds more or less exactly like it did 25 years ago. Only with more advanced drum programming and a lot more dynamic range compression. :)

^the don weighs in