It's the Shimmy Disc releases poll

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Inspired by realizing GWAR was on this label. (I bet you guys can guess my pick, but I wonder what Alex in NYC will pick)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
011 Bongwater Double Bummer 5
040 Bongwater The Power of Pussy 3
039 Naked City Torture Garden 3
049 Ween The Pod 3
037 Ruins Stonehenge 3
058 Damon & Naomi More Sad Hits 3
035 Boredoms Soul Discharge 3
057 Ruins Burning Stone 2
029 King Missile Mystical Shit 2
041 Rutles Highway Revisited Rutles Highway Revisited 2
013 Fred Lane And His Hittite Hot Shots Car Radio Jerome 2
042 John S. Hall & Kramer Real Men 1
043 Dogbowl Cyclops Nuclear Submarine Captain 1
052 Mabuses Mabuses 1
103 The Du-Tels No Knowledge of Music Required1
099 Adult Rodeo Texxxas 1
026 Shockabilly Vietnam & Heaven 1
018 Velvet Monkeys Rotting Corpse Au-Go-Go 1
025 The Tinklers Casserole 1
015 King Missile (Dog Fly Religion) They 1
017 Shockabilly Earth vs. Shockabilly 1
007 Carney-Hild-Kramer Happiness Finally Came To Them 1
016 Spongehead Potted Meat Spread 1
078 The Semibeings Sickness & Health 0
003 King Missile (Dog Fly Religion) Fluting On The Hump 0
080 Daevid Allen & Kramer Hit Men 0
077 Carney-Hild-Kramer Black Power 0
081 Paleface Raw 0
076 Hugh Hopper & Kramer A Remark That Hugh Made 0
075 Kramer The Secret of Comedy 0
074 Bulkhead Gas Giants 0
073 Dogbowl & Kramer Hot Day In Waco 0
064 When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water Bill Kennedy's Showtime 0
065 The Tinklers Crash 0
066 False Front Criminal Kind 0
067 Roger Manning Roger Manning 0
068 Fahy-Harley-Kramer Egomaniacs 0
069 Raymond Listen Licorice Root Orchestra 0
070 Trains & Boats & Planes Minimal Star 0
071 Fly Ashtray Tone Sensations Of The Wondermen 0
072 Tin Ear The Gospel of Tin Ear 0
082 Tin Ear Ballad of a Tin Band 0
083 Dogbowl & Kramer Gunsmoke 0
084 The Captain Howdy Tattoo of Blood 0
095 Jad Fair & Kramer The Sound of Music 0
002 Bongwater Breaking No New Ground 0
096 Brainville The Children's Crusade 0
097 Adult Rodeo Kissyface 0
098 Milksop Holly Time to Come In 0
100 The Ladytron The Ladytron 0
101 The Blue Whale Wind Runs Through It 0
102 0
094 Milksop Holly Milkweeds 0
093 The Blue Whale Congregation 0
085 0
086 E-Trance E-Trance 0
087 Kramer & Daevid Hild Rubber Hair 0
088 Hugh Hopper & Kramer Huge 0
089 Drazy Hoops Straight to Black 0
090 King Missile Failure 0
091 0
092 Glen or Glenda Reasons In The Sun 0
079 Blueberrie Spy Sing-Sing 0
063 Dogbowl Project Success 0
033 Jellyfish Kiss Plank 0
034 Various: What Else Do You Do? What Else Do You Do? 0
036 Walkingseeds Bad Orb, Whirling Ball 0
014 B.A.L.L. Bird 0
038 Jellyfish Kiss Animal Rights 0
019 Various Lyrics by Ernest Noyes Brookings 0
012 Jad Fair & Kramer Roll Out The Barrel 0
010 GWAR Hell-o! 0
032 Rebby Sharp In One Mouth & Out the Other 0
031 Bongwater Too Much Sleep 0
021 Fred Lane From The One That Cut You 0
022 B.A.L.L. Trouble Doll 0
023 Dogbowl Tit! An Opera 0
024 When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water Bobby 0
001 Various The 20th Anniversary of the Summer Of Love 0
027 Shockabilly Live...Just Beautiful 0
028 Daniel Johnston 1990 0
030 B.A.L.L. Hardball 0
009 0
008 Men & Volts The Mule 0
055 Kramer The Guilt Trip 0
056 Lida Husik Your Bag 0
005 Krackhouse The Whole Truth 0
004 Sharky's Machine Let's Be Friends 0
059 Grenadine Goya 0
060 Daevid Allen & Kramer Who's Afraid? 0
061 Uncle Wiggly There Was An Elk 0
062 Lida Husik The Return of Red Emma 0
054 False Front Dude 0
053 Dogbowl Flan 0
044 When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water Porgy 0
045 The Tinklers Saplings 0
046 Lida Husik Bozo 0
047 Jellyfish Kiss Stormy Weather 0
048 Daniel Johnston Artistic Vice 0
050 Bongwater The Big Sell-Out 0
051 Uncle Wiggly Across the Room and Into Your Lap 0
006 B.A.L.L. Period (Another American Lie) 0
020 Tuli Kupferberg Tuli & Friends 0


Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

Soul Discharge

o. nate, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

That was my pick - not my guess for your pick (though could be the same).

o. nate, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

To be fair though, that may be the only one I've heard from this list.

o. nate, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

Shimmy Disc releases I have at one time or another owned :

001 Various The 20th Anniversary of the Summer Of Love
002 Bongwater Breaking No New Ground
003 King Missile (Dog Fly Religion) Fluting On The Hump
004 Sharky's Machine Let's Be Friends
005 Krackhouse The Whole Truth
006 B.A.L.L. Period (Another American Lie)
008 Men & Volts The Mule
011 Bongwater Double Bummer
013 Fred Lane And His Hittite Hot Shots Car Radio Jerome
014 B.A.L.L. Bird
015 King Missile (Dog Fly Religion) They
016 Spongehead Potted Meat Spread
017 Shockabilly Earth vs. Shockabilly
018 Velvet Monkeys Rotting Corpse Au-Go-Go
019 Various Lyrics by Ernest Noyes Brookings
020 Tuli Kupferberg Tuli & Friends
021 Fred Lane From The One That Cut You
022 B.A.L.L. Trouble Doll
023 Dogbowl Tit! An Opera
024 When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water Bobby
025 The Tinklers Casserole
026 Shockabilly Vietnam & Heaven
027 Shockabilly Live...Just Beautiful
028 Daniel Johnston 1990
029 King Missile Mystical Shit
030 B.A.L.L. Hardball
031 Bongwater Too Much Sleep
032 Rebby Sharp In One Mouth & Out the Other
033 Jellyfish Kiss Plank
034 Various: What Else Do You Do? What Else Do You Do?
035 Boredoms Soul Discharge
036 Walkingseeds Bad Orb, Whirling Ball
037 Ruins Stonehenge
039 Naked City Torture Garden
040 Bongwater The Power of Pussy
043 Dogbowl Cyclops Nuclear Submarine Captain
044 When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water Porgy
045 The Tinklers Saplings
046 Lida Husik Bozo
048 Daniel Johnston Artistic Vice
049 Ween The Pod
050 Bongwater The Big Sell-Out
051 Uncle Wiggly Across the Room and Into Your Lap
053 Dogbowl Flan
054 False Front Dude
056 Lida Husik Your Bag
057 Ruins Burning Stone
059 Grenadine Goya
062 Lida Husik The Return of Red Emma

Shimmy Disc releases I still own :

001 Various The 20th Anniversary of the Summer Of Love
013 Fred Lane And His Hittite Hot Shots Car Radio Jerome
021 Fred Lane From The One That Cut You
034 Various: What Else Do You Do? What Else Do You Do?
035 Boredoms Soul Discharge
037 Ruins Stonehenge
039 Naked City Torture Garden
057 Ruins Burning Stone

Think I'll vote for Fred Lane as no-one else will. But which one? Guess I'll have to play 'em again.

Matt #2, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fuck, why do I not have a copy of Stonehenge?!!?!?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

if the only thing you have heard is soul discharge you should consider holding off on voting until you've heard a few others

Milton Parker, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

Voted Ruins "Burning Stone", but I could be convinced that Naked City or "Stonehenge" is the correct answer. I CANNOT be convinced that anything else is.

Alex in SF, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Not even The Tinklers?

Matt #2, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well maybe "Soul Discharge" which I haven't heard in 12 years, but I doubt it.

Alex in SF, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

Whoa there was a second Carney-Hild-Kramer record! Is it good?

dad a, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

Matt #2 I guarantee you're not the only Fred Lane fan here ... and the correct answer is Car Radio Jerome

zaxxon25, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

Power of Pussy vs. More Sad Hits vs. Bozo for me, and that's a tough one to call. Each one probably the best album by a favorite artist of mine. Will have to spend a few days to sort this out.

dlp9001, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

NAKED CITY

John Justen, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

omg there are so many great albums here

jhøshea, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

boredoms ball daniel johnson uncle wiggly ruins bongwater kramer naked city ween

gah how 2 decide!

jhøshea, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

pretty rough choice - all the Bongwater stuff is classic obvy, and there's a lot of underrated gems on here (John S. Hall & Kramer Real Men is really funny and I usually hate "comedy rock")

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

so hard to choose. I think I've listened to Shockabilly "Heaven" more than anything else on here, but then with Soul Discharge AND Double Bummer in the running we have some serious stone-cold classics. Man I used to have such a softspot for depressing shit like Dogbowl's "Growing Up In A Wheelchair".

Drew Daniel, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Pod

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

more sad hits, although my favourite song released on SD is 'one meatball' by the tinklers (on saplings)

electricsound, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

EARTH VS. SHOCKABILLY.

I gotta say, I feel like this label released a whole lot of crap. Maybe you just had to "be there."

ian, Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

i still have goya and more sad hits and the return of red emma and a couple bongwaters. i loved bongwater. especially too much sleep. especially the title track of too much sleep.

i remember when my brother brought home torture garden and soul discharge one day and we listened to them and it was fun. it was, like, wow, man!

i liked that jad fair/kramer album! the song about going to california, that was a great song.

i never got into a lot of kramer and his pals records. b.a.l.l. and stuff like that. and i was there, ian!

i liked the two girls my brother used to bring home who worked at shimmy disc. they were nice. they gave me a glow in the dark galaxie 500 t-shirt once.

my fave uncle wiggly album is the one d.wolk put out. but i probably need more uncle wiggly albums!

scott seward, Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

THE POD

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

I feel weird about that U. Wiggly record as it was supposed to be on my imprint I briefly had with Shimmy, See Eye, until I realized that Kramer was a crook and never going to pay anyone and shut the thing down after only a couple releases. Years later, the Sun City Girls, with whom I had a fabulous release planned (for 1992), said "Man you shoulda done it anyway -- we never expected to get paid!" which was fucking funny and sad and says something about a lot of small labels, unfortunately. (I hear that Magnet article about Kramer/ Shimmy and his/ the label's problems from a year or so ago was well done, but in order to read it I would have had to have read an issue of Magnet so I haven't read it.)

I agree that there really are a LOT of amazing albums on this list. I think any LP with a Macioce cover is worth owning, that Fred Lane rules, that the Carney Hild Kramer records remain fucking awesome, and also that a third of these records suck donkeys but as averages go that's not so bad. it's funny 'cause I just bought the first and best Lida Husik LP for $5 -- unplayed copy, beautiful -- at Kim's last night and it struck me as weird that such a great out of print album could be so cheap. I'm not complaining of course...

B.A.L.L. was so fucking amazing, esp. live -- best use of double drummers I've ever seen, holy fuck.

Mike McGooney-gal, Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

nobody else likes it but i love "Potted Meat Spread" by Spongehead.

zappi, Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think I need to get into Bongwater. I see copies of Burning Stone floating around NYC all the time (didn't feel so bad about giving mine to my Ruins-fanatic ex; got a new copy for like $5) so out of towners need to grab that.

Has anyone heard "The Pod Outtakes"?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 26 April 2008 01:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

krazy kramer's gonna be in australia in a little while recording some local band.. would be interesting to meet the dude..

electricsound, Saturday, 26 April 2008 01:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Power Of Pussy for me. I bought everything on this label up to like Dogbowl's Tit or something. But that album towers over most of it.

sleeve, Saturday, 26 April 2008 03:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

I have not heard King Missile in years. There is some funny stuff on Mystical Shit.

earlnash, Saturday, 26 April 2008 08:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

I still own 013 Fred Lane And His Hittite Hot Shots Car Radio Jerome. French toast man!

I never liked the Grenadine album despite being a fan of Unrest, Tsnumi and Eggs.

How is the Kramer and Daevid Allen record?

Bill in Chicago, Saturday, 26 April 2008 13:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

How is the Kramer and Daevid Allen record?

The first one is lovely.

I voted for the Rutles comp because that has tracks that I still listen to the most and is a genius concept through to execution.

The record I would like to recommend is Dogbowl's Flan record.

It has some of the most beautiful melodies/arrangements and if you can get past the post-nuclear holocaust (married to novel of same name/content) stuff which probably indeed mars the material down to about an AMG 3.5 or so, it is lush.

Honorable mentions to the Pod and Uncle Wiggly There Was An Elk, neither of which were "produced" by Kramer, as it happens.

Oh and that Velvet Monkeys album is primo early pre-kitsch Don Fleming material, defo well worth a visit for anyone who ever decided somewhere along the line that they didn't like him. "Evelyn Marble" is one of my favorite songs.

Oh well, RIP.

Saxby D. Elder, Saturday, 26 April 2008 17:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Only know a few releases. Voted "They".

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

REAL MEN. Despite loving a few others on this list, very very easy decision for me. (I believe zappi upthread introduced me to this record, actually...)

emil.y, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

THE MILKSHAKE OF DESPAIR SHAKES HANDS WITH SECRET AGENT 666

zappi, Sunday, 27 April 2008 17:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh good, I'm not the only Pod voter.

billstevejim, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

if the only thing you have heard is soul discharge you should consider holding off on voting until you've heard a few others

Actually, I think I have heard a few more of these that I overlooked on my first scan through the list. I have The Pod, which is, IMO, one of the two worthwhile Ween albums (the other being GodWeenSatan). I think that most of Torture Garden is also included on Grand Guignol, which I have. I've heard bits and pieces of other things, and/or other works by many of the artists listed here. So I do feel some justification in voting for Soul Discharge.

o. nate, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Second that Velvet Monkeys album - I'd previously only heard Rake, which is shit.

I'm quite surprised by how little I know off this label - I've got quite a few releases (Bongwater, Rutles Highway Revisited, Ween, Daniel Johnston etc) but a lot of the rest is A MYSTERY.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

These are a mystery to me, anyone know them? I'm guessing it's not that Ladytron.

072 Tin Ear The Gospel of Tin Ear
074 Bulkhead Gas Giants
078 The Semibeings Sickness & Health
079 Blueberrie Spy Sing-Sing
082 Tin Ear Ballad of a Tin Band
084 The Captain Howdy Tattoo of Blood
086 E-Trance E-Trance
089 Drazy Hoops Straight to Black
092 Glen or Glenda Reasons In The Sun
093 The Blue Whale Congregation
094 Milksop Holly Milkweeds
096 Brainville The Children's Crusade
097 Adult Rodeo Kissyface
098 Milksop Holly Time to Come In
099 Adult Rodeo Texxxas
100 The Ladytron The Ladytron
101 The Blue Whale Wind Runs Through It
103 The Du-Tels No Knowledge of Music Required

Matt #2, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

CAR RADIO JEROME

contenderizer, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

Soul Discharge is my favorite album on Shimmy Disc, but it's not really a "Shimmy Disc" album. Kramer got the rights to release it, and he fucked it up and put it all as one track. The guy ripped off so many artists that weren't in his close circle and fucked up their albums.

I voted the self titled Mabuses record. At least, that's a Shimmy Disc record in spirit. Shimmy Disc were great, don't get me wrong, but the Boredoms being on there was, in retrospect, an unfortunate anomaly.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also, the mastering of the Shimmy Disc Soul Discharge is just terrible.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Though I at one time owned nearly everything on this list up through release #40 (excluding King Missile and lots of the one-shots), I don't now - and, god help me, didn't then - care for much of it. The last Shimmy-Disc release I think I heard was Ruins' Burning Stone. Didn't like it. Most of the stuff after #60 I've never even heard of.

I dug (and still like) the first couple Bongwater records, Rev. Fred Lane, The Pod, the GWAR debut and Soul Discharge, but most of the rest seemed more interesting than memorable or useful. Jellyfish Kiss and Walkingseeds were okay, for grunge-era acid rock. Main problem is that though all all my favorite Shimmy stuff fits this description, I basically hate Zorn-style wacky anxiety music.

Anybody else ever spend an inordinate amount of time trying to boil The Guilt Trip down to one decent record's worth?

Agree w/ Makro that Soul Discharge ain't really a S-D record, else I mighta picked it over CAR RADIO JEROME.

contenderizer, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 23:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dogbowl, "Cyclops Nuclear Submarine Captain". Lovely album.

Tom D., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 09:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 23:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

You know what I love? The Bongwater version of "Splash 1"

ian, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 23:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Can't believe no-one voted Bozo.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 23:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

power of pussy > double bummer.
should have won

Zeno, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 23:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

'Dude' and 'In One Mouth & Out the Other' are both fantastic - the latter being one of the freakiest folkiest records ever

Zuleika, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

B.A.L.L. reunion show!

https://www.facebook.com/events/166467203516191/

Position Position, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

picking up on what i said four years ago...

Stan the Man, I mark the meat
I grab the fish and dump the sheet
Pull the cards, so keep your seats
Watch the carny feed the geek

Bite if off and scarf it down
Makes me sick if I stick around
How'd you like to be that meek
Pleadin' for pennies in the dirt on your knees

Car Radio Jerome
Car Radio Jerome
Pick up the phone, you're always alone
Keep ringin', keep singin', there's nobody home

Ten nickel shots fulla cockroach rye
Grub up some filth and I think I'm alive
Pick a card from the deck and pretend to believe
They swim in the jar and be just like me

This life sucks twice
Looks real good but it stinks on ice
Real ripe escargot
Under the table where it doesn't show
Down in the basement where the kids won't go
I know the mark, you know the smell
With a world like this who needs a hell

Do not try to be discreet
Drop the pamphlets in the street
Scream like a banshee, laugh like a loon
Run down the alley, spit at the moon

Quarter from behind me can't make me drop
I quit this jump and I'm a flat dead frog
Touch me, dad, I'll stick you, cop
Kill my dog, I'll waste you, pop

Car Radio Jerome
Car Radio Jerome
Pick up a phone, light up a bone
There's a wingtip above us, we ain't alone

Look past the page and I hate what I see
Maggot in the mirror just drools back at me
Carny says "temporary, stick around for a week
Suck on this, pal, til we get us a geek"

Do not try to be discreet
Got my eyes on the carny's feet
Kick down the stall, spit on the wall
The head off a pullet, jump over the wall

[frontier gibberish]

...dead pigeon...this goddam stinking slaughterhouse of a world, some guy to tear the wings off flies. What use is there in living... nuthouse, and the biggest loonies are at the top. ...this rotten, stinking, useless life. We get jerked into it and jerked out. It's nothing but a... We come like a breath of wind over the fields of morning, we go like a lamp flame caught by a blast in the darkened window. In between the journey from table to table, bottle to bottle, suck, swallow...just like an amoeba. Somebody lets us loose like a toad out of a matchbox, and the guy's all like behind us, and when he gets tired he stomps us to death, and our guts squirt out on each side of his boot, and oh merciful providence, you son of a bitch. LOOK AT THE MARKS.

[the carny speaks]

Where did he come from? God only knows. He was found on an uninhabited island 500 miles off the coast of Florida. My friends, in this enclosure you will see one of the unexplained mysteries of the universe. Is he man or is he beast? You will see him living in his natural habitat, among the most venomous REPTILES that the world provides. Why, he fondles those serpents as a mother would fondle her babes. He neither eats nor drinks but lives entirely on the atmosphere. And we're going to feed him one more time. There will be a slight additional fee for this attraction, but it's not a dollar, it's not a quarter, it's a cold thin dime. Ten pennies, two nickels, the tenth part of a dollar. Hurray, hurray, hur- [screams]

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 01:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Uncle wiggly is the best here

Evan, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 03:50 (1 year ago) Permalink


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