Best Celtic Frost Album Poll

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I suppose it's gonna be between 2 albums but the new one was a great comeback so maybe it will get a few votes.
But let ILM decide...

Poll Results

OptionVotes
To Mega Therion (1985) 15
Into the Pandemonium (1987) 11
Cold Lake (1988) 9
Monotheist (2006)9
Morbid Tales (1984) 4
Vanity/Nemesis (1989) 2


Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

To Mega Therion

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

and another excuse to post this :)

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think To Mega Therion is considerably better than Into the Pandemonium but I don't know a lot of people who agree with me on that'n

still, the fucking Usurper, there's not a track on ITP that's as great as that

J0hn D., Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

What did you think of Monotheist?

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't think many comeback albums are as good as that

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

still, the fucking Usurper, there's not a track on ITP that's as great as that

-- J0hn D., Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:15 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

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latebloomer, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

strangely i couldn't really get into Monotheist at all

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I voted for To Mega Therion, but Into the Pandemonium is a close second. Monotheist definitely ranks among their best, but it doesn't quite reach the heights of the other two.

novaheat, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

Tom Warrior looks like he should be in a nu-metal band, though.

novaheat, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

He and the singer from Cellador should team up as the two most unlikely-looking frontmen.

novaheat, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

I liked Monotheist but CF was kind of a huge band for me when they were new 'n' all so the way I liked their old stuff is has covalent bonds with my youth, etc

J0hn D., Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

What did you think when Cold lake came out, j0hn?

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

to mega therion

(<i>cold lake</i> was an epic humiliation unmatched until the video for "enter sandman" premiered. at least that's how i remember it.)

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I remember being very happy with Monotheist but yeah I obv gotta vote To Mega Therion.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 13 April 2008 21:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

In order of preference:

1. Into the Pandemonium (1987)
2. Cold Lake (1988)
3. Vanity/Nemesis (1989)
4. To Mega Therion (1985)
5. Monotheist (2006)
6. Morbid Tales (1984)

2, 3, and 4 are very close, though; I could easily have reversed their order on a different day.

xhuxk, Sunday, 13 April 2008 21:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

I was expecting you to vote for cold lake actually

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 April 2008 21:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've only ever seen the video for cherry orchard. that was enough, dont think i wanna hear cold lake

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 April 2008 21:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Anyone who votes for Cold Lake should be hit with a hammer.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 13 April 2008 23:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

I was about to say "damn son," then I saw who posted that.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 13 April 2008 23:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I just voted for Cold Lake. It's also Martin Popoff's favourite album.

I also want to say that Grand Declaration of War is the best Mayhem album. Go on, punch me through the internet.

moley, Sunday, 13 April 2008 23:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

Although I was alive during the 1980s, I was not listening to Celtic Frost in the 1980s. Therefore, I voted for Monotheist, because the guitar tone he gets on it is one of the greatest sounds I've ever heard in my life, and the mixing and mastering overall make it one of my personal peak musical experiences of the current century.

unperson, Sunday, 13 April 2008 23:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

i don't think i've ever even heard cold lake. into the pandemonium was definitely one of my favorite albums of 1987. to mega therion might be my fave now. i LOVED monotheist. such an amazing comeback.

scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2008 00:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

What did you think when Cold lake came out, j0hn?

tried to like it. didn't seem as bad to me then as everybody says it is now - but the non-"brutal" voice he was trying on sounded like the worst Rozz Williams ripoff. I mean, that voice barely worked for Rozz & even he abaneoned it after an album & an EP - why would you bite that style? that was my position. but I always want to give a band a chance when they're changing up their style radically. looking at tracklist now...I remember not hating "cherry orchards," the rest I barely remember at all.

J0hn D., Monday, 14 April 2008 01:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

i went with 'into the pandemomium'
always takes me through a wide range of feelings - sometimes i laugh, sometimes i catch on to a really cool dark riff or vocal line, at times i'm perplexed. it's a really rich listening experience.
'tristesses de la lune' strikes me as an hilarious parody of the often overtly erotic tendencies of french language in song

Charlie Howard, Monday, 14 April 2008 02:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol @ alex

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 14 April 2008 11:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

"To Mega Therion", which I incidentally listened to this weekend, for the first time in a few years. That damn thing is way, way too good. I still don't know how the hell Celtic Frost were able to have such a completely distinct riffing style, without anyone later really (successfully) mimicking it (Darkthrone made a noble attempt on Panzerfaust, but it didn't sit quite right.)

Some day I will sit down and figure out what exactly it is they're doing, but it's hard, since their music makes my brain shut down to make way for multiple exclamation "Hnngh!", "HØH!" and "Heyyyy!"

Never really got into "Into the Pandemonium" myself, though I'm sure there must've been some nice songs on it. To MTherion and Morbid Tales are the only ones I've hanged on to. Liked what I heard of Monotheist well enough, but felt no urge to get a copy.

This makes me want to start a Coroner thread, but I think I'd need to spend a weekend replaying those albums to write a dreadful mess of rambling garbage about them.

Øystein, Monday, 14 April 2008 11:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I would read that dreadful mess of rambling garbage! Mental Vortex is so damn great

J0hn D., Monday, 14 April 2008 14:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Mental Vortex is indeed great; that, and the demo where Tom Fischer sings, are all I have by Coroner, though.

BTW, John, got yer book in this morning's mail. Looking forward to it.

unperson, Monday, 14 April 2008 14:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

You people who like Cold Lake must be kiddding . Good god.

Bill Magill, Monday, 14 April 2008 14:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

there are some ok songs on cold lake, really. but it doesn't really work as an album.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 14 April 2008 14:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Not much love for Morbid Tales then? I think I like that one better than TMT. Also I really liked Monotheist, so my top 2 are the complete opposite of xhuxk's!

Colonel Poo, Monday, 14 April 2008 14:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

I had a funny feeling you would like Morbid Tales!

Bill must be related to Alex In NYC

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 14 April 2008 15:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

'i won't dance' is an absolute gas. no wonder i opted for 'into the pandemonium'

such a frequently funny band. it's interesting to think that aaron 'humourless' stainthorpe derived so much inspiration from them.

Charlie Howard, Monday, 14 April 2008 17:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

That's a great song.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm almost tempted to say Monotheist, but have to go with To Mega Therion. That sucker's a masterpiece.

A. Begrand, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

We seem to have a runaway winner here. (I chose it too btw)

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Some day I will sit down and figure out what exactly it is they're doing

-- Øystein

I'm no musician, but it sounds to me as if they take a run of notes, often cloely clustered, and then explore all the ordering possiblilities of that note run. It's as if they're doing the musical equivalent of permuting letter combinations to generate new words. I wonder if someone could shed some light on this.

moley, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

BTW with Cold Lake - don't listen to it as the worst album CF ever made - listen to it as the best album Venom never made. And try not to think of the video for 'Cherry Orchards'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI74tyUefY4

moley, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

tom g. warrior is an ugly, ugly man.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

listen to it as the best album Venom never made

Popoff compares it to Accept, and NWOBHM (especially Tygers of Pan Tang). Which probably makes more sense than the time I compared it to Blue Oyster Cult.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

love the updated BM look

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 03:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

Into the Pandemonium all the way for me. So much variety! "I Won't Dance!" "Tristesses!" And the best version of "Mexican Radio" ever starting the damn thing off. Never could really get into To Mega, and I really didn't like Monotheist the last time I listened to it.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 03:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

Listening to Into The Pandemonium right now, specifically the two mixes of "One In Their Pride"...weird to think of Tom G. Warrior listening to Tackhead, but this stuff is a total Tackhead rip.

unperson, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 15:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

OK, this thread has inspired me to pull out To Mega, and I have to say, I think I've gotten into it finally. Into the Pandemonium is still my favorite, for sheer craziness, but TMT is a pretty solid slab of metal. Maybe I'll even pull out Monotheist again... although I had a really negative reaction to it, so we'll see.

Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've always found Pandemonium to be just a litle too eclectic for its own good. Never could get into the "Mexican Radio" cover.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

OK, listening to Monotheist and digging it. Right now I'm on "Drowned in Ashes" and getting a kick out of Fischer's Peter Murphy impression and the female vocals.

Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Monotheist is brilliant

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is a good poll.
seems that every record has a case for it with the variable being the type of music fan listening to it.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 17 April 2008 07:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha just watched the video for 'cherry orchard'
that track totally takes its cue from motley crue's 'looks that kill', but is somehow a lot more limp and devoid of energy

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 17 April 2008 07:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

There were young kids wearing Hellhammer shirts at the Agalloch show on Saturday. Also Atheist shirts etc. Heartwarming.

Nate Carson, Monday, 14 September 2009 07:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Alright, "Cold Lake" isn't as bad as I remember. I mean, Tom G. Warrior wrote it, there's some decent metal buried under bad production and guitar squeals/tremelo abuse. Would pay Warhammer or Apokalyptic Raids to re-record these songs in proper CF style.

KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 25 January 2010 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

so I finally just got Monotheist and I want to hurt everyone ITT who said such great things about it. I love old Celtic Frost but the first five tracks of this border on mediocre post-thrash with gothic and doom influences. I mean I wouldn't have even guessed this was CF if the name wasn't on the album cover. I really am not interested in hearing Tom G. Warrior sing as much as he does either.

Bahhhhhhhhhhhhh...

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Monday, 25 October 2010 22:52 (six years ago) Permalink

You probably don't want to hear the Triptykon record then; it's Monotheist continued. And it's my favorite CF record though I didn't post on this thread for some reason.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 25 October 2010 22:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't love Monotheist, think it's got some serious groove, but Triptykon - man that is proper. TG Warrior being forward-looking and pertinent in 2010...who'd have thought? fucking rad.

guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 00:38 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

on reflection, Morbid Tales totally should have got more votes in this. "procreation (of the wicked)" is probably their greatest song.

charlie h, Sunday, 3 June 2012 16:29 (four years ago) Permalink

its the one i listen to most now

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:14 (four years ago) Permalink

love that there were 9 people attempting to get everybody mad by voting Cold Lake

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:17 (four years ago) Permalink

1 will have been chuck...so point taken

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:18 (four years ago) Permalink

The power of positive trolling.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:19 (four years ago) Permalink

oops i read up and it was his 2nd fave

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:20 (four years ago) Permalink

When we doing the Coroner poll?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:25 (four years ago) Permalink

this thread reminds me that i still haven't heard a note of Vanity/Nemesis. it really is easy to forget that that album exists.

charlie h, Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:47 (four years ago) Permalink

Was surprised to see Cold Lake even made it to the list.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Sunday, 3 June 2012 18:46 (four years ago) Permalink

someone would've complained that it wasn't on it and that they intended to vote for it (in this case 9 people )

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 June 2012 20:09 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Tom G. Warrior's "HEEEYYYYY!" is one of the greatest vocal signatures in rock history. It actually activates my (presumed) Tourette's Syndrome to the point that I just want to howl it at really inopportune, inappropriate times: on a crowded subway, late at night in my apartment, when my phone rings, to my cat, in the shower. I need to find To Mega Therion on vinyl. I love Into the Pandemonium a lot.

Clarke B., Monday, 16 July 2012 23:44 (four years ago) Permalink

I saw them on the Pandemonium tour & they opened with "The Usurper" and everybody in the pit did the "uhh!" at the end of the first chorus

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 16 July 2012 23:51 (four years ago) Permalink

OMG I HATE YOU. No, that must have been fucking insane... I recently picked up the Darkthrone Panzerfaust reish and the second disc has Fenriz voicing-over basically about how much of a stan he is for Tom G's riffage. He ripped it off pretty mightily with that record, I have to say... And I love how non-intuitive yet perfect-feeling Celtic Frost's riffs are.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 17 July 2012 00:05 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I tend to disagree with buying classics out of a sense of obligation, but when certain classics belong to some sort of stylistic tradition you love, I'm more inclined to do it. I didn't really care for the first two Venom albums much and never went further.
I fairly enjoyed Morbid Tales and To Mega Therion but still wasn't a FAN, although I loved "Procreation Of The Wicked" and "Dawn Of Meggido" quite a lot. I wondered if it was worth getting more because I'm not a total metalhead and I don't feel like I need to prove credentials.
But I when I got Into The Pandemonium I fucking loved it and finally felt like a fan. It makes me wonder how many bands I might give up on only to miss what might be the record that gets me properly into a band.

Something I especially like about Celtic Frost which I'd like to hear in more metal, is Tom Warrior's voice contrasted with an elegant (and sometimes slightly sinister) female voice. Do the later Celtic Frost albums do this? Are there any other metal bands who have a similar dynamic like that? "Rex Irae" being my favourite example, I just love how she sounds like this Lady Macbeth or some high sorceress from a Robert E Howard book.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:14 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

re: female vox, the Storm record with Fenriz, Satyr and female vox from Kari Rueslåtten does this.

But actually came to post how much I love the first 3 Celtic Frost releases (including the Emperor's Return EP). Something about their sound changed on Into the Pandemonium that I don't quite love, but to then, I'd say they were a step up from Hellhammer.

Dominique, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 16:58 (three years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the recommendation. I'd like to hear more stuff like this.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 8 March 2014 21:41 (three years ago) Permalink

Monotheist has the female vox you crave. It really is a quite brilliant album and as good as their pre-cold lake stuff

Scooby Doom (۩), Saturday, 8 March 2014 21:56 (three years ago) Permalink

Thanks

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 8 March 2014 22:05 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

got a newer copy of TMT to replace the one I lost and holy fuck this feels like the first time I heard this again (not gonna front, it was 1999, I wasn't around in the o.g. days).

nobody riffed like these dudes.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 June 2014 20:36 (two years ago) Permalink

I know some people adore and worship Hellhammer and all but to these ears that shit's minor league compared to this

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 June 2014 20:36 (two years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

For such an influential band, hard pressed to say what kind of metal CF play. Black/thrash/crust/doom/death.

Dominique, Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:52 (two years ago) Permalink

We lumped them in with European thrash back in the day. But yeah, CF has influenced every single extreme metal subgenre, so it's really impossible to categorize. "Avant garde".

A. Begrand, Thursday, 5 March 2015 20:48 (two years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Just had to restart To Mega Therion because I got to "SILVER HORSES BROUGHT US HERE TO THE EDGE OF THE UNIVERSE/WE LEFT THE FALLING WALLS AS THE STARS' COLLAPSE BEGAN" and I was like NO WAY is this fucking loud enough...

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 10:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh and I've always thought of Celtic Frost as death metal. They never really used guitars in a thrashy way, to my ears, and their whole vibe was just occult bullshit and weird old fiction, a million miles removed from blue jeans, white sneakers and lyrics about society.

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 10:27 (one year ago) Permalink

to me, Celtic Frost and Hellhammer are pretty unclassifiable, but exist at this heart of black, death and thrash metal. Heaviness-wise, they were absolutely big influences for death metal, but atmosphere-wise, they were just as big an influence for black metal. Riff-wise, they were basically a crusty thrash/speed metal band....but then again also played doom riffs. Great band.

also, Morbid Tales robbed in this poll. Beaten by Cold Lake????

Dominique, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink

there's 9 trolls on ilm who voted

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 14:26 (one year ago) Permalink

this thread revival reminds me of one of my ALL TIME FAVOURITE display names, "Nightboat to Mega Therion". Much respect, Nick B.

The Male Gaz Coombes (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 14:33 (one year ago) Permalink

That is a great DN.

Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 10 December 2015 00:34 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Had left TMT in the car CD player last night and it was on when I started up the car to take my kid to the bookstore. I switched it immediately over to his Spiderman CD and he goes "No. Wait - put that song back on!" So I put it back on The Usurper and he had on this full-toothed grin and doing this swaying back-and-forth dance...kinda an Axl Rose thing.

About two minutes in, I saw that he was staring into space and figured he was bored so I asked if he was ready for me to change it back to Spiderman. "When this song's over, you can put it back." Cool.

After I changed it back he says "I like angry music because it's loud and because IT'S ROCK AND ROLLL!"

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:29 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the best post on ilx

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 August 2016 06:18 (nine months ago) Permalink

To Mega Therion is classic, but it's strange how benign it sounds next to Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return. Then again Morbid Tales/Emperor's Return sounds benign next to Hellhammer.

punksishippies, Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

been spending a lot of time with vanity/nemesis and it's great. they kept enough from cold lake that it sort of feels like a bunch of minimal thrash riffs allowed to twist into strange semiaccessible places. the bryan ferry cover is wild

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

I never posted in this so I likely didn't vote but I am definitely an Into The Pandemonium guy. Heavy and unique. I remember working at a record store years later and popping it in when it came in used and everyone I worked with - the alternative buyer, the hip-hop guy, even the hippie store owner - all found something about the album that got their attention in a positive way. Just a remarkable album, way ahead of it's time.

I found this thread because I wondered it anyone old remembered the beef between (I think) Don Kaye and Tom Warrior? I have a recollection of them duking it out in Kerrang! but I cannot recall the specifics. The internet was no help and Don Kaye doesn't like me so I don't want to ask him on Facebook.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 14 May 2017 05:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Reissues of the first three and Vanity/Nemesis coming out end of next month. I'm not sure if they've been remastered or anything, but they come in book-like packaging, so I'm assuming Tom G. wrote typically long-winded liner notes. Earache's webstore has a bundle offer - less than $50 for the CD versions, $110 for the vinyl versions.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 14 May 2017 12:15 (one week ago) Permalink

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/10/16/classic-celtic-frost-albums-to-be-reissued

"I haven’t heard Cold Lake since 1988 and I have no intention to do so before my death, although it will probably be played in hell for the next million years."

Are you Thurston Moore (but enjoying it less) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:37 (one week ago) Permalink

If you look at the individual CDs on the Earache webstore it has the bonus tracks... kinda weird break up (Emperor's Return is on TMT) but, excitingly, 1984 rehearsal tracks on Morbid Tales.

Are you Thurston Moore (but enjoying it less) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 08:41 (one week ago) Permalink

Tom Gabriel Fischer

As I am constantly receiving inquiries regarding the forthcoming BMG/Noise Records Celtic Frost reissue albums:

I am not part of this project, and I do not endorse it, as it does not reflect Celtic Frost's wishes, intentions, and identity.

It is thus my personal opinion that these reissues are not worth their (substantial) price.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 16:23 (one week ago) Permalink

good old Tom, he does like to bring the rain

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:02 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah that's his style. he is a dude whose thoughts about his own work should be taken w/several grains of salt.

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:34 (one week ago) Permalink

He's written a typically long-winded blog entry about what happened. Basically, he wanted to use the Into the Pandemonium liner notes to re-litigate old grievances, BMG said "WTF dude, we'll get sued," and he said "Fuck this - I'm out!"

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:03 (one week ago) Permalink

to me he is sort of the perfect example of the great artist who does not himself get his own stuff. his initial autobio circa 2000? 2001? was to me a pretty unreadable combo of "we didn't know what we were doing, but it came out a classic!" and "once again our titanic plans were foiled by THE SUITS!!" working with him has gotta suck hard

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:39 (one week ago) Permalink

He disowned a perfectly good album in Cold Lake. Tom's a genius, but he does need to lighten up a little.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:00 (one week ago) Permalink

PROCREATION OF THE WICKEEEEEEEEEED

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:56 (one week ago) Permalink

OOOH

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:57 (one week ago) Permalink


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