Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

when the woman comes in and asks "why don't you move your body?"

so good

KitevsPill, Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

Yeah nice one FACT. Good write up for an underrated artist.

millmeister, Saturday, 16 February 2013 18:00 (3 months ago) Permalink

I made a pretty weird and noisy mix with a bunch of techno/house bobbins of the past mixed with some weird noise stuff and sun city girls and the doors and alvin lucier. check it out here:

https://soundcloud.com/newyorkendless/indian-winter

/shameless plug

dan selzer, Saturday, 16 February 2013 18:01 (3 months ago) Permalink

Damn that Meta track is fine. Damn there’s none for sale on Discogs.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 18 February 2013 19:05 (3 months ago) Permalink

loving this

the late great, Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:11 (2 months ago) Permalink

That's a good booty call.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 21 February 2013 23:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

^_^

suare, Sunday, 24 February 2013 17:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

just reissued

the late great, Monday, 4 March 2013 09:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

Ah, so that’s where this got its inspiration:

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 4 March 2013 09:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

love tracks like this, kind of unremarkable but if i heard it out i'd HAVE to find out what it was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KpbT_USF1c

Crackle Box, Monday, 11 March 2013 13:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

cestu, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

Sounds quite modern to me, but maybe I’m just listening to too much Dutch West Coast/l.i.e.s. stuff at the moment.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

It is lovely though, let me know if you find out what it is.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

Slobban ‎– Funkig Gura Med Hus

killing me right now

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 5 April 2013 20:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

hadn't heard this, dunno if it's really well known, been in the discogs "does this seller have anything else i want" time vortex with youtubes running on the side. nice track:

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 5 April 2013 22:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

Nice find, going straight on the wantlist.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 5 April 2013 22:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

wow

the late great, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's awesome. literally just revamped all my dj stuff this week, first time i've had both record decks and cd-js with me in one place in years, new needles and a new mixer and speakers, can't wait to start buying stuff like the above.

also really want this lp - http://www.discogs.com/African-Dream-The-African-Dream/release/128584 after hearing maxmillion dunbar play a tune off it, all the available tracks sound awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IkeqtgKVlEE#!

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 5 April 2013 23:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

Trying to think of old stuff I’ve discovered recently. Heard this Moodymann track last weekend which I don’t think I’d heard before, is this well known to anyone?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

the african dreams track is good will check out the others on that too

this is familiar but cant place it

suare, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

I’ve been mainly digging for italo/disco/80s synth recently, but here’s ouple of late 90s London tech house tunes I put on my wantlist last month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SOVTFfQcXCw#!

This is quite well known isn’t it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uJHNr9YsnY0#!

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

just a state of mind

suare, Thursday, 11 April 2013 19:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

anyone remember this gem?

have some older vinyl from my parent's house and just stuck it on. amazing record. can remember selling tons of these at the shop i worked at, at the time it came out.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 12 April 2013 16:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

of course - great record

suare, Friday, 12 April 2013 17:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

suare, Friday, 12 April 2013 17:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

suare, Saturday, 13 April 2013 11:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

Got some great memories with that track. All those Dub Essentials EPs are, um, essential. Check out the tracks Menta and Take Me Up to Bed.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 14 April 2013 07:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

Love that a lot of really good djs peppering sets with stuff like this at the minute

suare, Monday, 15 April 2013 06:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

1 EU purchase on discogs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=Jv0eoBM-9Xw

suare, Monday, 15 April 2013 11:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/Jv0eoBM-9Xw

suare, Monday, 15 April 2013 11:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

ah well its just an old joeski record anyway

suare, Monday, 15 April 2013 11:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

this was in my head all day and couldn't think what it was and then all of a sudden there it was

suare, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:02 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Speaking of Weatherall, I hadn’t realised until recently that Smokebelch II was a cover version.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:26 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Been a little obsessed with this other track on the twelve recently:

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:35 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

fantastic 12", this is my fav mix on that tho

suare, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

that TLS track sure needs pitching down a bit for afterhours feeling

this feels one feels naggingly familiar in that Binh kind of sound

suare, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:35 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

also this - no idea if old or new

suare, Saturday, 27 April 2013 09:55 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Lovely synth/chopped vocal sample. Out of interest, how many of these IDs do you track down?

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 28 April 2013 16:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

about 40% or so, less than half but not a lot less than half

suare, Sunday, 28 April 2013 18:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the late great, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

love groove chronicles!

suare, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:10 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

likin' that

andrew m., Monday, 29 April 2013 22:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It's a great track, but also track down the dub mix of Holiday Da Vybe. The version on YouTube is actually the vocal mislabeled.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

damn this is so familiar i'm sure i have this, audio werner or something?

suare, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:02 (4 days ago) Permalink

Reminds me a bit of Wolf n' Flow - I'm Feelin' Moody, but isn’t that.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:42 (3 days ago) Permalink

lovin this

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:42 (3 days ago) Permalink

Luv wulf'n'flow!

suare, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 09:29 (3 days ago) Permalink

Enjoying that Nez Martin, and it's a £1 banger too.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 09:45 (3 days ago) Permalink

Reminds me a bit of Wolf n' Flow - I'm Feelin' Moody, but isn’t that

its pretty new (2011), didnt know it must have just heard it out

http://soundcloud.com/one-records/one-009-hector-the-ego-e-p

suare, Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:56 (2 days ago) Permalink


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