Joni Mitchell: Classic or Dud

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I love Jaco's bass. Anyone who says otherwise should not be trusted on anything.

Tim F, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I'm not the only one who thinks Hejira would be nowhere near as good without him. I don't like to think of myself as a fretless bass guy but between this and Mick Karn, I guess I am!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'm generally not a fan of fretless electric bass guitar, but yeah, Hejira is unimaginable without it.

I came late to Clouds, thinking she would still be finding her feet. Boy, was I wrong. Might be my second fave Joni, after Blue.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

i'd like a thread of indispensable bass albums, come to think of it!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

Listened to some of Heijera on the drive home...fretless bass takes some getting used to, at least for me. But so far i love Amelia, and the title track.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

It will grow on you, at least on this record. This record also grows on you, stealthily. But I am now so deep into Hissing of Summer Lawns I can't see out of it.

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Brilliant.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 26 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Thank you.

banjoboy, Saturday, 26 January 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

2003 was my wake up year, crunched Summer Lawns / Hejira / Don Juan's Reckless Daughter down to one cassette and it never left the car

Just created a Joni Mitchell 1975-80 playlist on Spotify -- will be interested to see if this is finally what makes me turn the corner on her.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, Amelia is something else.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

http://www.cbc.ca/q/blog/2013/06/05/joni-mitchell/

Mordy , Thursday, 6 June 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

_2003 was my wake up year, crunched Summer Lawns / Hejira / Don Juan's Reckless Daughter down to one cassette and it never left the car_

Just created a Joni Mitchell 1975-80 playlist on Spotify -- will be interested to see if this is finally what makes me turn the corner on her.


Fwiw, it was. Love this era unconditionally.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

Bought Ladies of the Canyon the other day and loved it. Shared "Big Yellow Taxi" on Facebook and promptly got told by one of my friends that Counting Crow's version was "much, much better".

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link

wow, this has to be one of the most obnoxious '2001 ilm' openings to a thread ever

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link

Did you see the 90 min profile done for CBC in 2003? http://vimeo.com/20279550#

that's not my post, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 06:51 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdpTGFZSgfA&feature=youtu.be

Mordy , Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link

Bought Ladies of the Canyon the other day and loved it. Shared "Big Yellow Taxi" on Facebook and promptly got told by one of my friends that Counting Crow's version was "much, much better".

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, June 7, 2013 8:28 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always think Adam Durtz sounds happy that they paved paradise and put in a parking lot, like he had really needed the parking.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvtJPs8IDgU

kingfarticus 2 weeks ago
Thumbs up if you heard this at Target, Macy's, or in an elevator.
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i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link

Amazing how much people hated her in 2001!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 20 June 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link

her crime was that she wasn't belle & sebastien

data halls and oate (stevie), Thursday, 20 June 2013 06:41 (ten years ago) link

Wasn't there a Neptunes remix of the Counting Crows version or something?

how's life, Thursday, 20 June 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link

classic:

Dud, Dud and thrice Dud. Annoyingly "twee" hippy songstress with a piercing warble that could make dogs' heads explode. Ick!
― alex in nyc,

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 June 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/an_enchanting_two_hour_interview_with_joni_mitchell

I don't think this is the same thing as the CBC doc...this is a 2 hour CBC interview

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

Watching Joni at her 70th celebration, giving in to the muse and deciding to sing in public once again, damn, that's uplifting.

doug watson, Friday, 21 June 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

I wish she'd give up smoking.

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 21 June 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link

She makes a point of smoking!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 June 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

My friend went to the Massey Hall thing the other night. She also tried to get Mitchell's autograph three different times this past week, no luck.

clemenza, Friday, 21 June 2013 04:35 (ten years ago) link

Any idea if the entire Massey Hall show will be available, beyond the shakey cell phone shots on YouTube?

doug watson, Friday, 21 June 2013 09:02 (ten years ago) link

choosing cigarettes over such a unique instrument is just... ugh

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 June 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link

I love Dog Eat Dog. Can't believe it is disparaged even now, even here.

Call the Cops, Saturday, 22 June 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link

I feel bad for someone who think Joni Mitchell is a "dud," if someone sincerely believes that. If you're not moved (musically and/or emotionally) by at least 'Blue,' it might be time to think a little less about music and hear it a little more.

Soundslike, Saturday, 22 June 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

xpost: I picked up Dog Eat Dog in December and was surprised by how good it was. Definitely not bad.

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Saturday, 22 June 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

She's 100% dud at interviews, afaic.

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 22 June 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

I love Dog Eat Dog and put "Shiny Toys" on my Joni ballot

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 22 June 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

"Good Friends" on mine.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 June 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Court & Spark is such a warm weather record.

MaresNest, Friday, 19 July 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link

hehe yeah - a kind of hazy stunned-by-the-heat listen

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 July 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link

It's funny because Hissing was my first intense Joni listen - had liked Blue but not gone deep. I was alone in Perth, Western Australia, it was insanely hot and I walked downtown and bought Hissing on a whim. Sat down for a casual listen and bang, there goes the rest of the day. So that is a hot weather record for me, it's quite liquid in a way.

MatthewK, Friday, 19 July 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link

Yea! Harry's House/Centrepiece, 'heat waves on the runway, as the wheels set down' and the doppler horn-section intro. Such great imagery.

MaresNest, Friday, 19 July 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm3h2mjFOt1qbyeqlo1_500.gif

sigh...

Iago Galdston, Friday, 19 July 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

I love Jaco's bass. Anyone who says otherwise should not be trusted on anything.

OTM. The fusion fretless bass and processed guitars were actually what first drew me to JM.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 19 July 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

By the time of Don Juan, the bass was the loudest instrument after Joni's voice, some track have two basslines, she must have been very taken with him.

MaresNest, Friday, 19 July 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

Wait, I had no idea until now that she ever did a live album with Pat Metheny!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 19 July 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

I think The Boho Dance might have been the first time I felt like a real "adult" listening to music, like a song could speak to something other than my adolescent desires and mood swings.

Cap'n Conserv-a-pedia (Hurting 2), Friday, 19 July 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

It's funny because Hissing was my first intense Joni listen - had liked Blue but not gone deep. I was alone in Perth, Western Australia, it was insanely hot and I walked downtown and bought Hissing on a whim. Sat down for a casual listen and bang, there goes the rest of the day. So that is a hot weather record for me, it's quite liquid in a way.

Ok I'm firing this up.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 19 July 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

There's a funny resonance for me to the way In France They Kiss on Main Street kind of sounds like a continuation of Court And Spark both in musical style and content (it really kind of pairs with Free Man in Paris, and it has a similar beat to Help Me), but then the rest of the record kind of departs from that.

Cap'n Conserv-a-pedia (Hurting 2), Friday, 19 July 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

Sometimes Hissing feels close to a concept album but I think it's probably not. There are definitely recurring themes about suburbs/city and men trying to possess and control women.

Cap'n Conserv-a-pedia (Hurting 2), Friday, 19 July 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

Oh yes, there is a strong sense of being trapped by privilege across the whole album. And a strange tension that anchors the fluidity of the song structures and forms into one thing - folding Burundi drums and a 20s jazz cover into the dissection of upper middle class California makes it seem like anything could happen. That's why it's her peak for me.

MatthewK, Friday, 19 July 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

would have been a much more interesting album for 33 1/3 to do a book on than C&S (which I love too, just not as good to write about)

Iago Galdston, Friday, 19 July 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link


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