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I'm talking about the label, or non RN works by their artists.
Inspired by the arrival (of what allmusic tells me are lesser works)of albums Alva Noto and Frank Bretschneider at the local shop (Prototypes and Curves, I seem to recall).
I've seen Frank Bretschnieder live, and Olaf Bender as both Byetone and Sunken. I'm certainly a fan of alva noto (and should probably buy Insen sometime soon at that) and have seen an art installation by the 3 aforementioned people, yet I'm not really sure about how to approach the label, the artists, or their music. Like, If I'm going to listen to it for an hour or so, I at least want to listen to something I can engage with; I find this problematic with a lot of really reductive, glitchy music a la RN, as it's really hard to tell what to search and what to destroy. All the while I do find it intriguing though.
I downloaded a few tracks off the Signal album, and they seemed really interesting. I guess that's a good start.

mehlt, Monday, 24 December 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link

oh man, love this stuff...

search the Oacis book for a good visual overview of the label aesthetic.

I also really like the whole 20 to 2000 series (was just listening to the Ryoji Ikeda this afternoon). The other early Alva Noto record, forget what its called... Opto? Yeah, that's it. William Basinski's The River is my favorite release of his. Mika Vainio is always good and his Ought stuff (can't do that slashed-O thing, too lazy to look up ASCII) beats even Pan Sonic for me. However, I have not heard his 2 Raster releases. Senking is also one that I like.

destroy Komet and Goem didn't do much for me.

sleeve, Monday, 24 December 2007 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, by Sunken I meant Senking (I knew it sounded like Sun King, but didn't bother looking up the actual name)

Thanks.

mehlt, Monday, 24 December 2007 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

and I personally think Prototypes is a great Noto release, maybe my favorite of his.

sleeve, Monday, 24 December 2007 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Bender isn't Senking. you're thinking of Karaoke Kalk's Jens Massel (AKA Fumble, Kandis). on his own, Bender is Byetone. he's also a member of Rastermusik collectives Signal and Produkt.

Mr. Hal Jam, Monday, 24 December 2007 04:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, that's strange because I saw Olaf Bender twice (once as Byetone, then again), the latter time the flyer said Senking. I suppose what actually happened was he couldn't come so they sent Olaf Bender instead.

mehlt, Monday, 24 December 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

interesting. as you say, could have just been a substitution. AFAIK, Bender has nothing to do with the Senking project. he isn't even co-credited on any of Senking's RM releases.

Mr. Hal Jam, Monday, 24 December 2007 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, discogs confirms this as well. Strange, I've been udner the impression that bender=Senking since June.

mehlt, Monday, 24 December 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Well either way, the Raster-Noton gang played here last night. They must have a thing for Toronto, because in addition to this, over the last 2 years Frank has has played here once, and Olaf twice, not to mention RN had a public art installation for this art thing last September. Either way, I was treated (and it indeed was a treat) to sets by Byetone, Frank, and Alva Noto, and then los tres hombres as Signal, complete with matching white track jackets.

The point being it was, whew, fantastic. I mean Alva Noto is Alva Noto, but Byetone really surprised me, and Frank as well, playing what I imagine is stuff off Rhythm. And wow, seeing them live is a whole other experience. Just huge, clean sound that really moves you. Anyone who claims this music is too distant and detached clearly hasn't had their innards pureed by basslines so low you can feel them easier than you can hear them. In a way it's unfortunate because that really visceral, really powerful impact is lost when listening at home. I could easily imagine even a pop oriented listener really enjoying a Frank Bretschneider set; the sparsity of the compostion is filled in with visceral power. Nevertheless, Amazing event that was, I'll have to buy the signal album sometime in the new several weeks or something.

mehlt, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, and great visuals as well, especially Frank's.

mehlt, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 03:41 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Now this I'm curious about http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=5376.

mehlt, Friday, 1 August 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

It's great

willem, Friday, 1 August 2008 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

It's amazing how much love that Kangding Ray record gets proportional to the amount of hatred clicks n cuts IDM gets, given the overlapping of the two.

mehlt, Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

wht else was good on raster noton this year; I only heard the SND record :/

SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Alva Noto's <em>Xerrox Vol. 2</em> is really nice in a pop ambient sort of way.

with hidden noise, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I gotta hear that, someone nominated it on the 2009 poll thread.

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

the alva noto/ryuichi sakamoto utp_ release was very cool. i like their stuff together a bunch. its the kind of thing you really have to immerse yourself in. which is fine by me cuz i hate the real world. comes with a cool dvd too.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I gotta hear that, someone nominated it on the 2009 poll thread.

That was me :-)
I also nominated the SND album that SKATAAAAAAAAAAA mentions. I wasn't thinking about these two being labelmates; the SND is by far the more severe of the two (and it's the one I prefer most days).

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

SND is good from what I've heard. This is good too. I think it's one of Raster-Noton's more accessible works?

http://n5mailorder.com/images/r-n092.jpg
Like this too although I haven't heard all of the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iABNDvZ8IA

Treblekicker, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

SND is like the absolute definition of "severe" (xp). Haven't heard anything in a while, are they much different than the sound on Stdio?

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

NHK - Unununium (R-N 111) is by far my favourite release on rn and hasn't be mentioned, so there

not too dissimilar from the uptempo tracks on 'kesto'

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

s: last two senking albums

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Enjoyed List, but am slightly put off by an album called Pong tbh.

Sméagol-Eye Cherry (NickB), Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

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nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Good effort!

Sméagol-Eye Cherry (NickB), Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

damn autoformatting

nakhchivan, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-996332-1260967315.jpeg

This is the most enjoyable of the Raster-Noton I've been exposed too (Noto, SND, Byetone, Senking, Bretschneider, etc). It's er, fun to listen to very loud.

Alva Noto's Xerrox series is extremely ood when you are in the mood for very deep ambient.

laser precise purpose maker era, Saturday, 20 November 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

the last kangding ray is the best thing on noton probably

sooo awes

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 November 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

what other Raster-Noton releases that bang like Kangding Ray's Or?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 23 January 2012 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

I'm looking for something like this from raster noton: www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2UE0V5iq-w

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2UE0V5iq-w

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

Interview with Carsten Nicolai at FACT today about his last record fwiw
http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/20/alva-noto-univrsal-sound/

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

i thought there were going to be nine of the "unununium" releases but they seem stalled at number 4. am i mistaken?

there's an nhkyx full length as well, if you missed that

http://boomkat.com/downloads/396342-nhkyx-yx-aka-1ch-aka-solo

(the vocal tracks = terrible imo)

koogs, Monday, 23 January 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

> i thought there were going to be nine of the "unununium" releases but they seem stalled at number 4. am i mistaken?

it's been two years since the last one (114, dec 2009) but 115 is out:
http://boomkat.com/downloads/492665-kyoka-ish

koogs, Monday, 13 February 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-G4B-t4pAE&feature=youtu.be

willem, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

sorry about that, maybe this works
http://youtu.be/7-G4B-t4pAE

willem, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

NICE! i really like that.

jed_, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

bump for 117

http://boomkat.com/vinyl/1089121-ueno-masaaki-ununseptium-vortices

116 was empty set iirc.

http://boomkat.com/downloads/572664-emptyset-collapsed

koogs, Friday, 19 September 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Really interesting list of favourite albums from Byetone/Christian Eede. A couple of belters in there that I wasn't familiar with before.

http://thequietus.com/articles/20378-byetone-favourite-albums-interview

neilasimpson, Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link


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