proto-dubstep

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leftfield - "release two"

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Patrick Pulsinger - "City Lights Pt. 1" (1994)

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 December 2007 07:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

???

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 07:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

really??

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 07:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

great thread

The Macallan 18 Year, Sunday, 16 December 2007 08:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mezzanine

And some of Scorn's releases.

Techno Animal

Ice

Smith and Mighty etc.

Maybe one or two DJ Spooky tracks.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 08:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

how about dj maxximus? subhead?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 09:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

doom's night

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 09:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

this heat - 24 track loop

maarten, Sunday, 16 December 2007 09:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

kma - cape fear

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 10:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was reading Kid Kameleon's blog, and he reminded me that I totally forgot about Spectre. That would be the hip-hop producer Spectre, not the breaks producer Spectr.

This stuff gets overly confusing.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 10:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just search for Macro Dub Infection Vol 1 and 2, I guess.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 10:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

electric ladyland "future soul for rebels" comps I-IV?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 16 December 2007 10:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Future Sound of London: ISDN too.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 10:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

mick harris, muslimgauze

, Sunday, 16 December 2007 12:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "mick harris invented dubstep". (0.14 seconds)
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Your search - "my mom invented dubstep" - did not match any documents.

, Sunday, 16 December 2007 12:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

david sylvian & ryuichi sakamoto - bamboo houses/bamboo music

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 December 2007 13:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

<i>That would be the hip-hop producer Spectre</i>

When I heard my first set of dubstep, it instantly reminded me of a lot of the dubby instrumental hip-hop on the Wordsound label. Spectre recorded some stuff for Wordsound.

QuantumNoise, Sunday, 16 December 2007 13:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

wrong tempo, but:

http://image.listen.com/img/170x170/0/2/0/5/635020_170x170.jpg

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

er,

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know jack about dubstep but have heard Ike Yard referenced as proto-proto-dubstep.

dan selzer, Sunday, 16 December 2007 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

shanks and bigfoot

pc user, Sunday, 16 December 2007 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

that Pulsinger tune

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 December 2007 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mick Harris is very much proto-shite-dubstep.

jim, Sunday, 16 December 2007 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thievery Corporation: Songs From The Thievery Hi-Fi.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 16 December 2007 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm no expert so feel free to correct/berate me me, but Afrika by Plastikman sounds like it kind of anticipates Shackleton-style dubstep.

mehlt, Sunday, 16 December 2007 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

of course spectr the breaks producer is scuba is paul rose the hotflush supremo...

...so yeah protodubstep ???

pollywog, Sunday, 16 December 2007 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

On-U Sound

Romeo Jones, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

dub

strongohulkington, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well yeah, its finding stuff that has the "step" to it thats a little more tricky.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

michael f gill OTM re: "city lights vol 1"

i don't think a whole lot of dub sounds like dubstep, to be honest.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

a lot of the spar urban dub does, in some fashion

The Macallan 18 Year, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe that should be urbane

The Macallan 18 Year, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

what are you digging at anyway, vahid? the roots of dubstep aren't 2step garage and techstep?

The Macallan 18 Year, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah, whatever martin clark says i don't think disciples, iration steppers, whatever sound that much like dubstep

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm not digging for "the roots".

you might call the sonics or link wray proto-punk, though i very much doubt many people making punk rock in the 70s had actually heard the sonics or link wray. the idea is just that the sonics happen to sound like something that came along much later in an unconnected way.

i'm just digging around for non-obvious stuff that happens to sound, basically through chance or accident, like current dubstep.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

OIC

try Britney Spears - Freakshow

The Macallan 18 Year, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think this sort of game is a little more interesting than just drinking the usual "oh yeah, we really dug 2-step and techstep and dub cause we live in london" koolaid ... zzzzzzz

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

siah alan OTM re: mezzanine. "man next door" could teach kode 9 a thing or two

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

cabaret voltaire circa 1985
dubby progressive house circa 1992/1993 guerilla label
artcore jungle Various - Artcore

djmartian, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

i listen to dubstep fm i haven't the scooby doo what the artist names are as it's mostly mixes - but the music is interesting

djmartian, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

who's listening to this:

December 18th on Sub FM [via the web]: Tuesday 18th December, 8pm - 12am - 4 hour mega dubstep radio special live from Bristol.

via: Gutterbreakz: IT'S THE PARTY SEASON...

djmartian, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Well yeah, its finding stuff that has the "step" to it thats a little more tricky."

Like oh 50% of all dub and roots reggae from the mid-70s onward based around steppers riddims.

And I hear plenty of Jah Shaka et all esp. in the Digital Mystikz school of dubstep.

Alex in SF, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

"when the levee breaks" (good pun there)
"i sit on acid"
lfo circa advance

tricky, Sunday, 16 December 2007 23:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Like oh 50% of all dub and roots reggae from the mid-70s onward based around steppers riddims."

-- Alex in SF, Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

But at 140 odd BPM ?

Sure Ancient Memories and some of the other early Digital Mystikz tracks sound a lot like Jah Shaka, but I've never heard anything by Shaka that sounds like Da Wrath by Mala.

Specifically the Souljahz Mix on DM 003.

Siah Alan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 23:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i gotta agree here. clearly there's a particular wing of the dubstep crew that's consciously trying hard to sound like jah shaka (soul jazz "box of dub" crew i'm looking at you) but that's ignoring a whole lot of producers (vex'd, scuba, distance, mark one, hatcha, d1, all the grime refugees like skepta and benga, etc) that aren't.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah tricky, LFO's "tied up" has that wobble-bass thing in effect

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 December 2007 23:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Um well I did specifically say that I was speaking about those worshipping at the altar of DMZ (most of whom's early stuff is NOT at 140bpm or anything close to it.)

Anyway one particular techstep tune that sounds like minus the breaks (and um some momentum) could be Digital Mystikz is DJ Trace's "Final Chapta". Actually if you playing it at 33rpm it'd be dead ringer for their first couple of releases.

Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quite a few slow tracks on techstep albums are pretty much dubstep avant la lettre, but I will need to relisten to them to provide track names aside from Dom & Roland's "Industry" (awesome track BTW).

The Aloof sometimes sounded a bit dubsteppy when they toned down on the orchestral workouts and turned up the rigorous rhythms. But then The Aloof kind of remind me of everything (I thought of the Studio album the last time I listened to Sinking).

Tim F, Monday, 17 December 2007 01:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

first thing i thought of on opening this thread was boymerang.

tricky, Monday, 17 December 2007 02:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thats funny considering how many Dubstep producers on the forum seem to love post-rock, although I'm not sure if many of them like Bark Psychosis.

Siah Alan, Monday, 17 December 2007 02:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=34530

Check that mix for some live 2-step / post-rock kind of thing from some Lithuanian guys.

Siah Alan, Monday, 17 December 2007 02:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

andrea parker - fallen arches

winston, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 03:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like these kind of threads

winston, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Parts of Mouse on Mars's Iaora Tahiti (the midtempo, non-housey parts) sound like dubstep only with the dirge replaced by sparkly chromatic intensity.

Speedy J's Public Energy No. 1 represents for the dirgestep.

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 05:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

third eye foundation

ledge, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 08:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

parts of the black dog's "music for television and films" for sure

winston, Thursday, 28 August 2008 03:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some PJ Harvey track I heard once.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 28 August 2008 08:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would really like it if there was audio easily available for this thread so i could tell which posts were only half joking and which were joking and which weren't joking

thomp, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

third eye foundation (mp3 link)

ledge, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

This just came up on itunes, probably haven't heard it for the best part of a decade:

OK Abacus (chap), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:56 (10 months ago) Permalink

Afro-Central on the Afro Left single also has a dubstep vibe. Would fit perfectly in a Kode9/Martyn dj set.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:07 (10 months ago) Permalink

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:07 (10 months ago) Permalink

No mention of Two Lone Swordsmen or Sabres? I can't think of one example. Maybe Wilmot? Or Alpha School?

dog latin, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:23 (10 months ago) Permalink

Stewart Walker - Dead Factory Metaphor fits the vibe here. Don't think it would count as proto-dubstep but i'd have to check the dates.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:33 (10 months ago) Permalink

What about Zulutronic?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:23 (10 months ago) Permalink

Or Genaside II?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (10 months ago) Permalink

That last tune is nice.

OK Abacus (chap), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:16 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Wow, the first 10 seconds of the Andrew Weatherall and Terry Farley No Alla Violenza remix of New Order's World in Motion is a total moment of Shackelton 15 years early (and then the entire rest of the track is of course radically different)

for reference's sake

EDB, Friday, 1 January 2010 16:26 (8 months ago) Permalink


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