― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 14 July 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 14 July 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link
I may be new and not know shit but I do know I don't like this kid at all.
― ben welsh (benwelsh), Monday, 14 July 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:02 (twenty years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:05 (twenty years ago) link
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 03:44 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:47 (twenty years ago) link
No, I really like it as well.
― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 03:50 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 03:55 (twenty years ago) link
whatever
What do you think of The Bad Seeds? Surely you must like them... ?
no
― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 05:13 (twenty years ago) link
― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 05:17 (twenty years ago) link
The last record of his I bought was "Murder Ballads" and I didn't really like it much and at the time was getting into some different music. I've been curious about the last three, but not enough to search them out.
― earlnash, Monday, 14 July 2003 12:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:07 (twenty years ago) link
― kelly denison-cole (dustjacket), Monday, 14 July 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 14 July 2003 23:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link
Did you check out Aereogramme by the way?
― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link
― The Second Drummer Drowned (Atila the Honeybun), Saturday, 21 February 2004 02:01 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 02:19 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago) link
regards,
REB
― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Saturday, 21 February 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 21 February 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Sunday, 22 February 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link
― willem (willem), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Grey (Ian_G), Monday, 23 February 2004 06:24 (twenty years ago) link
The BDay Party were fucking wicked and badass and awesome.Solo Nick Cave is hit and miss with some really awesome moments and some really low, bad moments.
But if it isn't totally awesome, then its atleast usually pretty funny.
― sunjammerr, Monday, 23 February 2004 06:31 (twenty years ago) link
I've also been listening to B-Sides & Rarities on my ipod, and that 3rd disc just keeps blowing my mind. Some of that stuff is jaw-droppingly good.
Just felt like gushing... that's all.. :)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2005 05:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 May 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Seuss, Saturday, 7 May 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link
I would love to see the Lyre Of Orpheus/Abbattoir Blues tour, that gospel choir he's got going would kill live. Imagine 'There She Goes, My Beautiful World' live. I'm also interested in their dynamic now that Blixa has gone. I wonder who'll do Kylie's part now on the live performances of "Where The Wild Roses Grow". Blixa had such a lovely falsetto. Maybe Mick will pitch in...
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Is it just me or does Cave have a lot better sense of humor than he's usually given credit for?
― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 7 May 2005 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Apparently his publicist announced that he's doing no tours for 2004/2005, and in 2003 he said he wasn't touring a country that had declared war on Afghanistan, so god only knows what 2006 holds.
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link
the dud part is the way i can't afford the seventy odd dollars it costs to see him next tuesday.
― acidmouth (acidmouth), Saturday, 7 May 2005 06:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2005 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't think he's even come close to the level of The Boatman's Call since then, but there's enough there up to then to justify a resounding classic.
Seeing 16 Horsepower live made me decide Nick may as well retire as he wasn't really required any more - sadly he's managed to outlast them.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 7 May 2005 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Blixa didn't leave then, he just refused to do Lollapalooza. He left proper after Nocturama, having barely played on the last three records (Cave said that his presence and opinions in the studio were still personally valuable even if there wasn't anything for half the band to play tho). His replacement is actually Lolla fill-in James Johnston! Playing organ not guitar for the most part though.
― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 7 May 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Funnily enough, 16 H opened for Nick on the 1998 tour. I always liked them, but not loved. Appreciated the obvious Ian Mc. from Echo jones in the dude's voice, though.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
this one's quite good once it gets going, reminds me a bit of abbatoir blues/lyre of orpheus which remains my favourite
it looks like they have a 'partnership' with PIAS for this album, after carnage was released through AWAL and the previous three were completely on their own label (though surely with a distribution deal with a major or something behind the scenes)
― ufo, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:07 (one month ago) link
I am not really in the mood for Nick Cave right now and have probably been slow drifting out of the zone since Mick Harvey left the Bad Seeds... but I'm sure I will look back in 10 years in a reevaluative mood and feel this is fine or better
Abattoir Blues / Lyre of Orpheus definitely the last one I was knocked out by
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:37 (one month ago) link
Wow, for me the new song is so awful it transcends parody.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:59 (one month ago) link
I concur, the last Nick I loved was the 2nd Grinderman LP. He's on his own artistic journey but it's not one that I find compelling. I guess I just miss the intensity and vague danger of his old work.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 7 March 2024 01:14 (one month ago) link
He’s deeply in love with himself as an allegorical fabulist, but the stories are trite and boring (cf his novels as well). Coupled with the Christlike pose struck in his goodwill-to-all-men missives … nah. Hope you enjoyed the coronation pal.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 7 March 2024 08:14 (one month ago) link
his lyrics have always been the worst thing about his art and it's basically a wonder that i can tolerate them at all really
― ufo, Thursday, 7 March 2024 08:20 (one month ago) link
outro sounds horrible
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 7 March 2024 12:11 (one month ago) link
Daughter got sent a pre-sale link for the new arena tour, only seats available to her a hour in were back row of the side seating near the back so possibly the worst seats in the whole place. ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR POUNDS. Before fees. Fuck that shit.
― I blinked and it was a new decade (aldo), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:59 (one month ago) link
my partner got a standing one for £75 which i think is about the same as last time, maybe £5-10 more.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:57 (one month ago) link
which is still expensive imo!
£144 is insane.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:04 (one month ago) link
They might have started there but dynamic pricing and ticket bots just pushed them through the roof.
She's going to try again on general sales on Friday and has set herself a £100 upper limit, which is still too rich for my blood.
― I blinked and it was a new decade (aldo), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:35 (one month ago) link
Is visiting Europe possible for her? See a great city, get slightly cheaper Nick Cave tickets?
― woof, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:47 (one month ago) link
That's an option, or she could just get over it. </caring dad>
― I blinked and it was a new decade (aldo), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:04 (one month ago) link
xp my first show was a few years back at an outdoor show at castle in the Austrian countryside and i can’t imagine wanting to see it anywhere else, let alone a packed theater.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:44 (one month ago) link
yeah...for me the process is when I was younger I considered him a great lyricist. then two things happened: he got older and so did I. the fiery pyrotechnics of his younger writing gave way to his version of mature writing, but he's not really as good at that, and the pyrotechnic stuff ("Mutiny!" and most of the first Bad Seeds album typify what I mean by that -- hyperverbal excited stuff dense with lurid imagery) I'd kind of outgrown, though I can still get a kick out of it. I'll go to the mat for him as a performer, I think he has few peers and even continues to grow, but as a writer that's just not what I'm into as a grownup. it has taken me years to admit this.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:01 (one month ago) link
We got standing tickets for Glasgow and they were about £72 each all told, with excruciating fees of course.
― brain (krakow), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link
She must just be unlucky with Cardiff then.
― I blinked and it was a new decade (aldo), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:19 (one month ago) link
I didn't look at seated prices at all, but the presale standing allocation did seem to sell out quite quickly.
― brain (krakow), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:31 (one month ago) link
Foi Na Cruz was the beginning of the end for my liking him. Everything Birthday Party & the first four Bad Seeds albums (Tender Prey maybe, if there's room left) = desert island, the rest: not so much (even though there were some good tracks here and there, it just wasnt the same anymore) - I'm not hating on artists who get clean or start a family, it just how it turns out that "the tormented artist makes the best art" cliché didn't come out of thin air.
― StanM, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:31 (one month ago) link
Foi na cruz is one of my fav bad seeds songs. Power ballad!!!
― fpsa, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:47 (one month ago) link
I love that you love that :-)
― StanM, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link
I'm the opposite, finding the best parts of the 21st-century albums what works best for me ("Higgs Boson Blues" and "Push The Sky Away" and more). The lurid earlier songs, maybe because I first heard them in audiences with frat-like guys singing along to "Stagger Lee," feel more distanced from the violence and death in the lyrics, and the most recent ones treat them as tangible.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:02 (one month ago) link
As a lyricist I find him well-intentioned but ultimately pretty mid (as the kids say). When his music was more furious he could at least fake his way into matching it (see: Grindeman, which pretty effortlessly reverts back closer to formative form), but his more subdued current mode (I assume; I haven't heard the new one) brings the focus squarely on the words, and imo they're just not as compelling as intended. Which is odd, because I do often find him pretty thoughtful and perceptive and intelligent, even funny, it's just not translating to the albums.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:15 (one month ago) link