Nick Cave : Classic or Dud ?

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O.K. so I've only listened to 'Tender Prey ' and 'The Best of ' - so I don't know if he's got any better but I found them patchy for someone who's said to be such a great songwriter. I know he's been influential but when asked about my musical faves - they'll be invariably called Nick Cave copyists - which may be true but I like them MORE.WHAT SHOULD I LISTEN TO TO CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE

'Arr ferk the nun inna jesuz bluud . . .DONKEY ! '

― Geordie Racer, Friday, 13 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC! I'll concede that his last two albums (new one included) haven't been as exciting as some of his previous work, but I personally feel his songwriting has remained top-drawer. That said, however, I truly miss the fire and brimstone of his more energetic work. To my ears, the last truly great album of his was MURDER BALLADS. While essentially a collection of covers, it showcases Cave & the `Seeds' range pretty nicely...from the cinematic to the savage. I'm also a huge supporter of the live album, LIVE SEEDS, recorded on the HENRY'S DREAM tour. The live renditions of tracks like "Papa Won't Leave You, Henry" and "John Finn's Wife" (among others) actually improve on the studio versions, I feel. Hands down, however, my favorite album of his remains THE GOOD SON. I'd also urge you to go pick up the "best-of" by the Birthday Party (Cave's previous outfit) dubbed HITS, which finds Nick in a much more aggressive vein. In any event, I truly feel that no matter how histrionic he may be, there is turly no one like him.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 13 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

The Birthday Party one of the greatest groups ever. His solo stuff, up to and including Tender Prey, all classic. Since then, a little patchy. I thought Let Love In and The Boatman's Call were both marvellous; Murder Ballads and Henry's Dream were a mixture of the good and the overblown. I think he's relying on his style and charisma a bit too much these days, but then he must be around 40, so he's kept it up pretty well over the years. The Mercy Seat is certainly one of the greatest records ever made.

― Johnathan, Friday, 13 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

In all fairness to the man, he's now a middle-aged father of an eight- year old. It's probably a bit harder (and less exciting) to be a frightwigged, bedraggled harbinger of squallor when you've reached this point in your life.

― alex in nyc, Friday, 13 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

.. that is - unless you're the Geordie Racer !

― Geordie Racer, Friday, 13 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I was duly fortunate to catch the man in concert not three weeks ago in LA -- he opened with a solo piano version of "West Country Girl" that was loud, pissed off, mean and beautiful all at once. Age, etc. hasn't slowed him down at all. The show itself was utterly brilliant -- just him, piano, Warren Ellis, the Dirty Three drummer and Susan Stenger on bass, and it was amazing. The solo rearranged version of "Papa Won't Leave You Henry" is my number one 'must have an mp3 of it *NOW*' track right at present.

Classic? Beyond classic, fucking godlike more like. Try the _Live Seeds_ album, _Kicking Against the Pricks_ or _Let Love In_.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Your mileage may vary with Nick Cave, as I've found out, even amongst Nick Cave fans. We were sitting around at a local record store, talking music (good place for it, I guess), when Nick Cave's recent albums became part of the conversation, and favourite Cave record also crept in. I ventured Let Love In as my personal favourite, which often tends to be scoffed at by people who prefer the earlier, bleaker material. One of the guys there went so far as to say I wasn't a "true" Nick Cave fan, whatever the hell that means. I think you can pull something from almost all of his albums, but I find Let Love In and The Good Son to be compelling, and Tender Prey to be a great record as well. Hell, I even liked Boatman's Call.

― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't call him a dud but I don't think he's the classic songwriter he's now painted as - he seems to carry this great Romantic Artist burden around with him which is a bit quaint and on, say, the Boatman's Call when he seems to try and get serious it comes over as rather fusty. Interestingly in the new Mojo he's a very sympathetic interviewee - he seems very dissatisfied with Boatman's Call and generally squirmy when the interviewer flatters him.

There's been a real shift in how Cave is perceived. When I first started reading the press he was always treated as this borderline nutter goth smack freak, now he's an Important Figure, and in between there was this oh-it's-another-Nick-Cave-album period, which would always qualify the "He's good" with a big "But". I think that got it right, pretty much.

A handful of stunning tracks though - "Mutiny In Heaven", "Tupelo", "The Mercy Seat", "The Ship Song", "Do You Love Me?", "Stagger Lee". So surely not a dud.

― Tom, Tuesday, 17 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, Ned, but totally Dud. I especially dislike Cave's stifling seriousness and the ham-fisted band. The Birthday Party were dire also - they just couldn't get close to the lowdown, dirty drug n' murder blues. Sad thing was, they THOUGHT they could.

― Dr. C, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Major major dud.

― the pinefox, Friday, 20 April 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

I prefer NC to the Birthday Party. Also, this has probably been discussed elsewhere but Mick Harvey's Gainsbourg albums are very nice.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 26 June 2003 12:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think Cave's only got a few sorts of songs he can do well, so it's been lots of repeating himself for me -- and most of his albums have great songs on them plus substantial tracts of filler

The Good Son proved the leonard cohen territory was his ie a very well structured running sequence, and ambience that almost saves also-rans like "weeping song",
but he dropped the ball on Henry's Deam so badly that i really haven't been able to bother much since

I mean there are a few songs on Let Love In, but for me that's as patchy as the album that preceeded it (Henry)

i believe he can only do so many really good ballads though, and that he's revisited those same ballads so often with the recent albums

i say there're have been so few rock songs that i can count them -- "The good son" & "the hammer came down", "Long time man", "Jangling Jack", "John Finn's wife" -- that's one or at most two good rock songs for each of those albums ! (oh "papa won't save you Henry", "who will be the witness", "jack the ripper", "weeping song" all lousy songs, such rock-by-numbers stuff, will not save him)

go back to your funeral my trial for the whole range, great title track ballad through the true freak-show feel of "The Carny", (better than anything the residents had produced for oh, so-long), and then the great whine-o-drone of "long time man" and the succinct birthday party punch of "scum" -- a classic album, from when Cave had to produce decent stuff to keep his job and maintain and propogate his reputation

"Murder Ballads" a great Aussie cash-in for then career dwindlings of Kylie and Nick (and what an unexpected couple !! proving they're both really show-biz and contenders for legit. rock star -- i thought Cave had some outsider cred -- maybe this was needed to break the concept to new audiences ?? it worked i suppose, but just a big-budget re-rendering of "long time man" idea to me)

ok the birthday party and early bad seed stuff didn't get the easy pay-checks the concept and oomph of their mere presence deserved as real-life art in the public eye, so
good luck to him for those initial flashes of real brilliance

maybe he'd be best served by a "greatest rock songs" and "greatest 'love' songs" double greatest hits, and then save those good songs for singles and forget the nine-yards albums

(ie you should not produce a whole filled out album if you don't have enough good songs)

― george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm not going to adress all yr points, most of which I disagree with, but I've never really understood the bad rep of 'Henry's Dream'. It's really his most succesful 'eclectic' album since and 'tender prey'. As said upthread, the songs sound even better on the fantastic 'Livce Seeds' album. 'Plain Gold Ring' is a gem on that one..

― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's at all surprising that he dated Kylie, because in its own dark, reverent way his material is just as generic, conservative, synthetic and lifeless as hers.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

at his show in chicago last week it struck me that nick reminds me of a dark-souled neil diamond for the alt rock set. and i mean that in the very best way possible.

― otto midnight, Thursday, 26 June 2003 14:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

so momus, of all people, is saying that nick cave is conservative: nothing shocks me anymore.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 June 2003 15:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

His stuff is utterly brilliant, including his last couple of albums. Nocturama is among his best, and No More Shall We Part may lack heavy punkish stuff but at times it suits the mood better than anything else. For me, Your Funeral... My Trial, The Good Son, and Let Love In just manage to top those last two.

― Tijn, Thursday, 26 June 2003 17:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I'm reading his biography The Bad Seed again, so I threw on my copy of the B-Day Party's Hits, and I must confess it gets a little old after awhile. I prefer the recent live album I've got over it, but I'm curious if the full-length B-Day Party albums play better than the compilation does (better paced, maybe?).

I've only heard three Cave solo tracks: his cover of Neil Young's "Helpless," which I love, his cover of the Beatles, "Let It Be," which I despise, and that song "I'll Love You Till The End Of The World," which is pretty nice. I'm guessing people would recommend The Good Son as the place to start checking out his solo work? From Her To Eternity?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 13 July 2003 23:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

*ahem*

I trust many of you already know what my full first name is.

Mmm hmm.

So, um, what about my opinion regarding Nick Cave? Well, when you're able to selfishly claim that song for yourself, what other answer can you have but CLASSIC? All those naysayers can just kiss me. And Momus? I happen to like Kylie Minogue, too. She comes from a magical little place with little elfin fairies who spread their pixie dust all across this land. What do you say about Kylie's collaborations with the Manic Street Preachers? MSP also like Kylie.

But back to Nick Cave. Classic. A surprising one, too, considering how little I actually care for country. But I like this brand of graveyard country rock. And damn, I need to play "City of Refuge" now.

― Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 14 July 2003 00:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

big bad dud, the birthday party were dud too altho they had a couple of cool bass lines

― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 00:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

jesus kylie has chose some rotten people to collaborate with for "rock" cred or whatever she was doing, the manic street preachers suck the dog too

― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 00:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

duane how could you?!? rowland s howard is a gtr hero of mine

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 00:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

when i saw them he was the worst thing about it, he just played on hi treble & tried to hurt people because he was sick cause they couldnt get any gear in christchurch

― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 00:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

that's what i love about roly poly

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 00:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

fuckin spoiled brat, the correct thing to've done wouldve been to not even show up for the gig & actually put some real effort into trying to cop

― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 00:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Uh, duane, the Manics contacted Kylie first, way back in 1991 or somesuch. It wasn't until years later that Kylie wanted to do anything with them. The Manics have gone on the record as being fans of Kylie's music, even the teenypop '80s years.

What do you think of The Bad Seeds? Surely you must like them... ?

I'm going to listen to my namesake song again.

― Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 14 July 2003 00:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

RSH lives just round the corner from me. his face seems to have partially melted off

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 00:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dud. He lost is instantly when the Birthday Party broke up. ADMIT IT!!! Tracy Pew was always the cool one.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 14 July 2003 02:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dud. He lost it instantly when the Birthday Party broke up. ADMIT IT!!! Tracy Pew was always the cool one.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 14 July 2003 02:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

ooops, double post, sorry

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 14 July 2003 02:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's at all surprising that he dated Kylie, because in its own dark, reverent way his material is just as generic, conservative, synthetic and lifeless as hers.
-- Momus

I may be new and not know shit but I do know I don't like this kid at all.

― ben welsh (benwelsh), Monday, 14 July 2003 02:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

nar Rowly is still a legend!! he did a great gig a few years ago with a version of Lou reed's "Oh Jim" that sent shivers (fnarr) every which way

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

dude totally lives off the royalties to "Shivers" i'm sure

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yes, sorry Jim, forgot about Rowly. The cover to 'Prayers on Fire'. Two drop dead cool human beings. Melbourne was right about something after all.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Classic. I love everything from the Birthday Party up through the new solo stuff. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that No More Shall We Part is his best, most consistant record since Prayers on Fire.

― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 03:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who likes Henry's Dream?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who likes Henry's Dream?

No, I really like it as well.

― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 03:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is that what your album is going to be like then?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 14 July 2003 03:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't follow you. Are you thinking of someone else?

― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 03:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Uh, duane, the Manics contacted Kylie first, way back in 1991 or somesuch.

whatever

What do you think of The Bad Seeds? Surely you must like them... ?

― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 05:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

i shouldntve posted that it just sounds rude & mean, sorry. but nick cave is 1 of my top unfavourites.

― duane, Monday, 14 July 2003 05:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

One very positive thing about Nick Cave's solo records, even from the start is that they sound quite good. In the past couple of weeks I have been going back and listening to "My Funeral, Your Trial", "The First Born Is Dead", "Tender Prey" and "Kicking Against The Pricks"; listening to these on headphones has really made me further appreciate the arrangements and production.

The last record of his I bought was "Murder Ballads" and I didn't really like it much and at the time was getting into some different music. I've been curious about the last three, but not enough to search them out.

― earlnash, Monday, 14 July 2003 12:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

The new one is pretty damn good, I think, if a little more mellow than usual.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

But, it should be said, it's not "Boatman's Call" mellow. It's more, like, AAA mellow. It's nice, though.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

my old roommate tim had bad luck with the ladies during the couple years my wife and i shared a big ol house on the hills above ithaca ny. with him. so he spent alot of the time in the bars, where as i was happily ensconced drinking at home and being married. tim and i were both cooks but i mostly did days and he mostly did nights. if you have ever worked nights in a restaurant you know how tought it can be to wind down when you start your work day at like 3 in the afternoon and get done at 11 at night it takes alot of booze. but it was the same for me as well, only, i started at 8am and started drinking after shift at 4 so my sleep cycle was more "normal". anyways, about twice a month he would come home smashed and depressed. the walk to our house was up a huge painfull hill that only got the blood and alchohol flowing thru the sysetem. depressed and womanless he would crank up some nick cave and sit on his bed and stare at the floor and mumble along with the lyrics, blacked out of his mind. it was a barometer for his smashedness, if i heard nick at night then i knew tim would only have vague recolections of the night before. fortunetly tim is the kinda guy that no matter what he does you just cant get mad at him. i donno why. it was a blessing and a curse to have him as a roommate. just like nick cave- a blessing and a curse. ive never bought any of his records
but ive wished i was him now and then. hes crazy!!. i dont know why his pulpy voodoo shtick never worked for me- i mean i love screamin j hawkins, the cramps, misfits, t. waits- all that kitchy shit but nick annoys me. last week my wife and i went up to prospect park here in brooklyn to see a free show under the stars at the bandshell. it was a tribute to lenoard choen with
linda thompson, laurie anderson, marc ribot, nick cave, and loundon wainwright. all the heavy hitters. it was pretty boring,
or maybe i im pretty boring. sonic youth and wilco were better the night before in central park.

― kelly denison-cole (dustjacket), Monday, 14 July 2003 19:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC if just for the *awesome* cover of "Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart" on Kicking Against The Pricks. I'll admit I stopped listening after Henry's Dream , but everything up to that was super. Plus, he let me beat him at pool once.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 14 July 2003 23:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

Stupid (that is the poster's name) had asked for some thoughts on this abortive thread. Well here are some thoughts of mine for you. Offhand I would say either Tender Prey or Let Love In as a starting point.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Ned, I'd already checked your reviews on allmusic out (I always do, you're rarely wrong I find: Cranes, The Wedding Present, Disco Inferno... the list of bands you've unwittingly set me up to love is growing every week), I was just looking for a few more opinions. Those two certainly sounded appealing, I guess I'll start with those then. Cheers, once again.

― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yer welcome. Hope you didn't mind the thread lock-and-redirect, but I didn't want to lose Scott's opinions either.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

I pretty much posted that so that someone would show me to the old one I couldn't find, so it's all good.

Did you check out Aereogramme by the way?

― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

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YOU'RE A OLD SLEAZY GUY NOW, WE GET IT, WELL DONE

― The New Beautiful South's New Bassist (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

And that quote actually makes it sound better than it is! It's pretty bad. It honestly reads like it was written by some smart-arse seventeen year old. Shit doesn't hit the fan, instead "the shit and the fan had their fateful assignation." You'd never guess he already has a previous novel and various screenplays under his belt. Avril Lavigne's vagina seems to be some sort of leitmotif:

A great wall of darkness moves towards him. It is unconsciousness and it is sleep. It moves like a vast tidal wave but before it breaks over him and he is away, before he renders himself completley to that oblivious sleep, he thinks, with a sudden, terrible, bottomless dread, of Avril Lavigne's vagina.

― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

they dragged Avril & her vaginerrrr from the hole
and the bulb that burned above them
did shine both day and night
and the 'giner learned to love its greater darks and lesser lights

― worm? lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

This stuff sounds pretty bad, folks. Surely he's capable of better.

― Tantamount To Pressurized Milk (Bimble), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

this sounds great! what do you expect?

― akm, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Avril Lavigne" is very nearly an anagram of "Evil Vagina"!

― Lostandfound, Friday, 26 June 2009 04:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

nick cave's writing was almost always pretentious

― Zeno, Friday, 26 June 2009 04:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gotta risk pretentiousness and sentimentality to get anywhere deep.

― Eazy, Friday, 26 June 2009 04:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

That said, was that excerpted in Razzle?

― Eazy, Friday, 26 June 2009 04:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dig Lazarus Dig (album) overall is amusing and well written, and there are plenty of great songs on it. I really like it.

― Evan, Friday, 26 June 2009 04:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Avril Lavigne" is very nearly an anagram of "Evil Vagina"!

actual LOLZ

Too bad "vagina" doesn't have two syllables or else you could sing it to the tune of "Evil Woman". That is, if you could do Jeff Lynne's falsetto.

― Tantamount To Pressurized Milk (Bimble), Friday, 26 June 2009 04:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

i like grinderman and lazarus now. not sure what I was thinking a few years back. I even like nocturama now.

― akm, Saturday, 1 May 2010 06:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah Bunny Munro was pretty terrible. Hard to believe it was written by the same person who wrote the wonderful And The Ass Saw The Angel.

― anagram, Saturday, 1 May 2010 07:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

i kind of like most of no more shall we part now as well. what is wrong with me. I'm still pretty sure bunny munro will not be any good though.

― akm, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Actually I see things exactly opposite. "...And the Ass Saw the Angel" was a nice try but Nick clearly wasn't up to the task of writing a story in the O'Connor/Faulkner mode. That book ends up a pretentious mess.

"Bunny Munro" on the other hand was, to me, pretty funny in parts and much more relaxed. It didn't pretend to be great literature and the tone much in line with the louche demeanor put forth by Grinderman.

― kwhitehead, Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

after spending a lot of time with all the post-boatman's call albums over the past month, it's pretty obvious to me now that abattoir blues/lyre of orpheus is a monumental masterpiece of a record, maybe better than boatman's call, rivaling the good son for my favorite overall record of his. I suppose a lot of people already knew this but for some reason I slept on this album for a long time, maybe because of the length, maybe also because even though I'd purchased it, the version I had on my ipod was cobbled together mp3s of different bitrates and mis-sequenced and it seemed more like a mess than it actually is.

― akm, Friday, 14 May 2010 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, it's fantastic. Probably my album of the year for 2004 and a hell of a masterpiece, his best work overall.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

It is probably crazy how much better I like "From Her to Eternity" on the Wings of Desire soundtrack v. "From Her to Eternity" on the album of that name. It's just razor sharp, man.

― 17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

very much seconded. I discovered the song through that movie and was appalled when I heard the tinny original.

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 09:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Totally otm. Movie version so much richer, much more dramatic. I always skip the original bc I hate the way it sounds.

― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

When they're first committed to tape, lot of Bad Seeds numbers (in contrast to Nick Cave songs) seem to be a groove with a chord change and a monologue on top. It's later on that the noise and improv gets solidified into a song. The Live Seeds versions of his early 90s stuff is a lot more compelling too. "Tupelo" and "Mercy Seat" seem to be lucky situations where the total fire was there at the start.

― bendy, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm not usually a fan of live albums but most versions on Live Seed kill the originals

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Oops:

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Though I do love this:

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf is that jacket

― Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

(his I mean)

― Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

What's with all these Australians suddenly trying to bring back western civilization? First Assange, now this...

― StanM, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

er, not back, down :-/

― StanM, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Love the comment:

Never heard of him but now I'm a big fan.

― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 22:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

just discovered murder ballads. wow!

stagger lee is mindblowing. this is where cave laid the groundwork for the grinderman project, no?

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 14 October 2011 01:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

stagger lee blows the rest of that album out of the water, which is saying a lot since it's packed with gems. love the video for it as well. it's basically just the band standing around, but NC and BB just have so much damn presence.

― charlie h, Friday, 14 October 2011 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

it reminds me of worm tamer from grinderman 2.

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 14 October 2011 01:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is where cave laid the groundwork for the grinderman project, no?

― front-man for British post-punk turned pop chart-topper’s, Scritti Polliti (sic), Friday, 14 October 2011 09:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, i've now read the sound/vibe for grinderman goes back as far as cave's early band (the birthday-party, iirc?). i wasn't a fan years ago, when i heard that stuff. maybe it's time for another try, since i love grinderman 2 so much.

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 14 October 2011 12:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/9530466.Julie_named_Alumnus_of_the_Year/

― The nIce Age (S-), Friday, 27 April 2012 03:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

awesome

bring back the handlebar mustache tho

― mookieproof, Friday, 27 April 2012 03:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

"Well of Misery", Electric Ballroom, 1984 - billed as Nick Cave & The Cavemen

fkn great performance

lol@ spanish subtitles

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 06:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

goddammit

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 06:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

one more

St Huck, Barcelona 1984

melt ur face

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 06:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

He was fantastic once.

― Pacific Rinko (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 9 June 2012 11:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm sure I've wondered out loud here about this, but the de facto breakup of Grinderman and the return of the Dirty Three makes me wonder about the state of the current Bad Seeds. There's been boilerplate murmurings of a new album, but nothing concrete. Been four years.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

its all a bit weird

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 years? But Grinderman 2 came out in 2010. Seems like it had run its course and now he's figuring out the next phase of his career.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 years since "Dig, Lazarus, Dig!" the last Bad Seeds album, which is not Grinderman (different sound, line-up, name, etc.).

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dud.

― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Nick's all "I started working with Rasputin when?"

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 August 2012 16:15 (10 months ago) Permalink

Cave looks a lot less bald there than last time I saw him. Perhaps he shaved off the stache and stuck it on his head?

― Position Position, Friday, 10 August 2012 19:03 (10 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Hell yeah:

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:05 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Went to the final tour rehearsal for the new album last night, at a leisure centre ballroom in Hove … and good God the new songs were boring, apart from Jubilee Street or whatever it's called. Not a single melody between them.

― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Saturday, 9 February 2013 12:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

There has been some anticipation of the album on this thread. But yes, it's looking like a boring one.

― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 9 February 2013 20:43 (4 months ago) Permalink

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