Wow, how long has ILX been going and - unless I have totally fucked up here - there has never been a Bobby Womack thread???!?! What's that all about? Anyway, I think I've got all of his 70s albums and they're all good in different ways. Stylistically, they're all over the map, for instance he has a fondness for covering the whitest, most cornball MOR stuff imaginable: The Carpenters, Ray Stevens et al (which he sort of explains in the monologue to "Close to You" on the "Communication" album). I don't say that he's the greatest singer - his mannerisms can grate and he's not particularly versatile... hell, what am I saying, he is great. As a writer, his own songs are invariably the highlights of his albums. Also a great guitarist, he's all over "There's a Riot Goin' On". In short, classic. Also RIP Jim Ford.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link
help me out with this one: I listened to a Bobby Womack "best of" some years ago, and there was this one song that had the exact same melody as Rod Stewart's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?"...(Womack's song was recorded earlier, I think)...what was the name of this track, and why isn't more made of this similarity?
― henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I always want to like him more than I do.
― Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Saw him on an oldies bill with the Dells in 2005 and said the following about his live show on the chitlin circuit soul thread:
Opener Bobby Womack has had quite a musical life -- teenage gospel singer, guitarist with Sam Cooke, Wilson Pickett and Sly Stone, pal of the Rolling Stones and successful solo artist off and on from the '60s through the '80s. Unfortunately, he left the strumming to a band mate, and either rushed through his hits or languidly lagged behind the beat. His voice retains a distinctive bittersweet feel, but his renditions of "Across 110th Street," "Harry Hippie" and "If You Think You're Lonely Now" lacked the melancholy passion of his studio versions.
-- steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:10 (2 years ago) Link
Need to get and listen to more of his studio efforts
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I listened to a Bobby Womack "best of" some years ago, and there was this one song that had the exact same melody as Rod Stewart's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?"
Oh I think Rodders 'fessed up to that one. I think the Womack song is "If You Want My Love, Put Something Down On It", but couldn't swear to it.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link
People, it was Jorge Ben's "Taj Majal" that Rod ripped off with that song.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link
hmmm...sounds like there's a whole lotta rippin' goin' on...
― henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
The melody is definitely from the Womack song... or rather the instrumental hook is
― Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Hm, looks like it was both.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
On the other hand, Jim Ford didn't seem to happy with Bobby's attitude toward songwriting credits.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Up to and including So Many Rivers: mostly C. Thereafter: almost always D.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link
i've never heard about him ripping a womack song, Jorge Ben successfully sued him for ripping taj mahal tho
― deej, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link
He should have sued Womack too then!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link
well, as you say it was only the hook that was lifted from the Womack tune...(but man, it was lifted)...maybe it wasn't enough of a rip to justify legal action...
― henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
or, maybe Jorge Ben to this day isn't even aware of the Womack tune...maybe we can get him sue Womack, and maybe Jorge will share some of the settlement with us, the alert posters of ILM...maybe...
― henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link
No, Womack didn't rip Jorge Ben, Rod ripped both Jorge and Bobby for different parts of the song.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Naughty Rod
― Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Remember he got into that mix-up with The Rutles as well.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I like me some Womack but his recorded output is really erratic. C: Across 110th St sdtk, parts of Communication, his playing on Riot.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Across 110th Street = first R-rated movie I ever snuck into...
― henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i like him, but his albums are all patchy. great rhythm guitarist, great voice, just wish he had more songs on the same level as everything else.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
i must be the only person in the world who actually prefers k-ci's cover of if you think youre lonely now to womacks.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link
"his mannerisms can grate"
this is also OTM. was just listening to his cover of bacharach's close to you and its a bit parodic. or maybe time hasnt been very kind to that sort of soul singing. not sure.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
classic. except for quite a few of his covers. including the remake of its all over now with bill withers which should be classic but isnt.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link
given the descriptions as 'patchy' i would love to examples of the classics - i only know across 110th street and have never got around to litening further.
― fantasimundo, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Imagine there's a few good comps out there
― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
his "california dreamin" is maybe the best song i've ever heard in my entire life
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
His "Sweet Caroline" is, well, sweet: "Here's my part, heh." "Secrets" and "110th St" are grand too. But his "Living in a Box" is just weird, and as the years went on, he increasingly simply ignored the song structure at hand and just scatted/vamped over the others' work.
― Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I love "That's The Way I Feel About 'Cha," "Across 110th Street" and "If You Think You're Lonely Now." Classic, based on those three songs.
― !Alicia!, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
the thing about womack is you have to really LOVE what he does otherwise there isnt much chance of liking many of his albums as theyre all very samey and yes i know you could prob say that about a lot of artists but there isnt that much variation in what he does.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah but My Prescription is choice, his best record and pretty essential soul.
― whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/Bobby_Womack.jpg
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link
his c+w album is £3 on cd @ fopp, as one of the 2-fer-1 releases that $tateside put out. very tempted.
― mark e, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link
― Matt P, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
just wanted to get a '1 year passes ...' before that pic
― Matt P, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway 'womack in memphis' sounds so good right now
Can I just put in a word for the joy that is 'If You Don't Want My Love (Give it Back)' , especially the bit where he quotes You Keep Me Hangin On.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
his The Best of the Poet Trilogy CD is just absolutely killing me today. I've had it for a few years but today every single song is hitting me with some WHOA GENIUS ALERT stuff. A lot of his stuff has finally hit iTunes which is good news to me.
man though this record today is hitting me in a "you can't be my friend unless you LOVE THIS" way, damn.
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 29 October 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Across 101th St contributions aside, Womack has kinda underwhelmed me. given the Sly connection and the voice and the cross-genre goofiness and everything I *should* really dig him, but everything I've heard has been pretty hit and miss.
― one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
man get that best of the poet album, for real
if you already have then disregard obv
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 29 October 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I have the 101th St one and then whatever one had Harry Hippie on it, forget what that was called. Some other random songs here and there
will check out and report back!
― one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
ah Understanding is the other one I have
― one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
dig this unstoppable jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK32ZAB0yts
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 29 October 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
The excellent recent UK film "Fish Tank" features California Dreamin' prominently.
― ρεμπετις, Friday, 30 October 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
The great man was on Jools Holland with Gorillaz last night, and did a small teaser for Friday's show, promising a full version of If You Don't Want My Love, Give it Back.Probably one of my top five Bobby tunes, along with Across 110th Street, Girl You're Welcome (Stop on By), So Many Sides of You, What is This?
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHkwzTKSdx8
Can't find a live version, but here you go...
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't see Bobby Womack, but the other Bobby (McFerrin) was awesome!
― gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Cool.
The "Oooooooooooooooooooooo" at the beginning of "Across 110th Street" is the best ever.
― Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
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― 69, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes. The Saturday afternoon show on WKCR of the same name is pretty good too.
― Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
The album, which sets Womack's careworn voice and acoustic guitar against clattering electronics, and mixes old gospel songs with guest appearances by Lana Del Rey, is a triumph.
wtf with this shit
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
I had a friend tell me she was "our Nico." probably get used to people putting her on where she doesn't belong
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
this album just sounded a bit awkward to me
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
Nabisco asked Damon Albarn about it for New York magazine:
This morning, I was listening to the Bobby Womack record you worked on, and I was curious — for you, was that sort of a standard production job, or something you were pretty invested in?
Not really a “standard production job” — Bobby and I talked about it on tour, and it took about another eight or nine months to come to fruition. But he came over, and [XL label head] Richard Russell, who’s really into working with Bobby as well, so we just sort of got together, and in a two-week session, pretty much got the arch and structure of the record from scratch. There wasn’t really a lot of writing done outside of the studio. We all had a few little ideas we brought into the mix, but it was a very collaborative and quick process.
Lana Del Rey appears on one track — who brought her into the loop?
That would be Richard. My studio’s quite close to the BBC, kinda walking distance, so if anyone comes in from abroad and plays at Jools Holland — which is our one legitimate live music show — we’ve got easy access to them. We kidnap them as they’re on break. Which is what we did with Lana, basically. She was amazing, I have to say, she didn’t know any of us personally, she’d just finished her rehearsal at the BBC, came straight here, and, within half an hour, was singing, dueting with Bobby. Really natural, very gorgeous voice she’s got
http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/damon-albarn-on-blurs-london-olympics-reunion.html
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
her part sounds nice for the most part, but i just wish she'd enunciate.
the second half of this album is really great, though i'm not quite sure what to make of "love is gonna to lift you up" ... it sounds like he's singing over a casio keyboard demo, which is somehow both awesome and lame at the same time. i'm not too familiar with a lot of his older stuff, so maybe he was always open to sounding a bit weird, but it strikes me as a stretch.
― borntohula, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
I've been listening to the new one a lot this week. Loved "Please Forgive My Heart" since I first heard it but the whole thing is finally clicking in a big way. I don't even get that annoyed with Lana Del Ray.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
Man, this guy's had some bad luck in the last year: http://pitchfork.com/news/49025-bobby-womack-diagnosed-with-early-signs-of-alzheimers/
Bravest Man In The Universe has really grown on me, by the way. Questionable production, definitely, but some of the songs he wrote for this are just too good to ignore.
― Everything You Like Sucks, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
Alzheimers. Poor guy.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 January 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
BMITU just missed my Top Ten, but it was a very good year.
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.amoeba.com/sized-images/maxs/800/600/uploads/past-performances/hollywood/2012/06.15.2012_Bobby_Womack_Signing/bobbyWomackSigning-7.jpg
― 2am chopped top (brimstead), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
I saw D.C. old-school soul singer Eddie Jones do a great version of "Harry Hippie" the other night. Was listening to Womack this morning--"Across 110th Street" is so passionate.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
I like his rendition of "California Dreamin'" too
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
I can't believe I've gotten this far in life without reading about the Womack clan...iirc Bobby married Sam Cooke's widow (2 months after Sam was killed) while steppin with her daughter Linda who married Cecil who married Mary Wells who later shacked up w another Womack brother whose name escapes me. If there's a biography there I'm going to read it.
― musically, Saturday, 15 March 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link
The Bravest Man in the Universe, indeed.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 March 2014 12:22 (ten years ago) link
Despite current health issues, he's doing some gigs
LiveSunday May 4, 2014 New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival, New Orleans
Thursday June 12, 2014 AT&T Performing Arts Center, Dallas
Saturday June 14, 2014 Bonarroo Music And Arts Festival, Manchester
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bobby-womack-dead-at-70-20140627
Teenie Hodges, Hi Rhythm and Al Green guitarist died the other day and now the great Bobby Womack (teenage gospel singer, guitarist with Sam Cooke, Wilson Pickett and Sly Stone, pal of the Rolling Stones and successful solo artist). RIP Bobby
― curmudgeon, Friday, 27 June 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link
So sad. A life and a legacy both.
Did he make that Bonarroo date, I wonder.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 June 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
I feel it is worth mentioning that his recent "comeback" album The Bravest Man in the Universe was a) one of the very few of these kinds of things that wasn't just him and a bunch of guest stars rehashing his old hits, but rather an album of new material, and b) was really, really good.
― You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 28 June 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
Not sure if he really played on "Suspicious Minds" but who cares. RIP.
― That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 June 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
Major RIP :(
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 28 June 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
This sucks, his music was a big part of my life
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 28 June 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
Never knew he was left-handed and played upside down.
― That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 June 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
Extra sad this came in the middle of a career revival. RIP.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 28 June 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
i saw him a few months ago at jazzfest and he was absolutely incredible, no surprise. rip, blasting the shit out of the poet all day
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 June 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
Yeah RIP. Very significant in my teenage years. I never saw him perform, to me he had everything.
― mmmm, Saturday, 28 June 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link
Not sure if he really played on "Suspicious Minds" but who cares. RIP.― That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:27 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:27 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...especially when he is all the fuck over there's a riot goin' on.
blasting that's the way i feel about cha right now.
RIP bobby.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 29 June 2014 04:34 (nine years ago) link
Hm. Didn't even realize he was on that. Must...read...the credits... carefully...as in the old days.
― Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 04:41 (nine years ago) link
i don't think there are actually proper credits on that LP! but it's well-known.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 29 June 2014 07:27 (nine years ago) link
I feel pretty silly for having listened to Riot for 25 years and not knowing Womack was on it until two days ago.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 June 2014 11:53 (nine years ago) link
NYTimes obit:
Correction: June 28, 2014An earlier version of this obituary rendered incorrectly one word in the title of Sly Stone’s most ambitious album, which Bobby Womack helped produce and which is now a soul classic. The title is “There’s a Riot Goin’ On,” not “There’s a Riot Going On.”
An earlier version of this obituary rendered incorrectly one word in the title of Sly Stone’s most ambitious album, which Bobby Womack helped produce and which is now a soul classic. The title is “There’s a Riot Goin’ On,” not “There’s a Riot Going On.”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 June 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link
He's got some credits that are hard to keep track of, like Kaylan and Volman.
― Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 12:21 (nine years ago) link
RIP Bobby.
(Just noticed I started this thread and I never start threads...)
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 June 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link
You must have been moved to do so by the passing of Jim Ford.
― Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link
You can check the timing here
― Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
stones do all over now in tribute
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 29 June 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
First time I saw him he opened for the Stones
― curmudgeon, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
Not as sad as if it had happened before a career revival though. At least he got the chance to make a great record, get back on the road, play arena shows and festival headliners with Gorillaz and get adoring press.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 30 June 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
Its sad that he died, period at age 70.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 30 June 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
Fresh Air has been replaying the 1999 interview, which you can download---lots of good stories and musical excerpts (also at least one xpost goofy but invigorating cover so far): http://www.npr.org/2014/07/11/330713212/fresh-air-remembers-soul-singer-and-songwriter-bobby-womack Also, at least one fairly recent Memphis show in the Beale Street Caravan archive:http://bealestreetcaravan.com/ But I just tried to download that one too, with Firefox's Flashgot, as I've done on BSC.com before; this time it crashed my computer. Oh well, gently down the stream.
― dow, Saturday, 12 July 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
http://images.junostatic.com/full/CS1703184-02A-BIG.jpg
just dunno
― j., Friday, 20 March 2015 02:59 (nine years ago) link
dunno what the world is coming to either. Wish Bobby was still around to share that
― curmudgeon, Friday, 20 March 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
Ha I'm listening to that album right now... halfway thru the track "Git It", which I've just noticed (are you reading this Shakey + Kerr?) has lead guitar by Glen Goins... as does the next track.
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
Also just noticed that Bobby plays a lot of bass on this album ... and guess what? He's fucking good!
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
wicker game strong as well
― j., Friday, 30 October 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link
RIPhttp://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bobby-womack-dead-at-70-20140627
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link
:((((((( RIP Bobby
― They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link
... wait a minute, he's already dead!
― They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link
Yes, I'm an idiot. Sorry. This is what happens when you see something on a friend's Facebook page and you fail to check.
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
I looked for a while and this Bobby Womack "Soul Sides" 2 cd compilation that came out on Metro Select in the Uk is a good compilation. He did alot of ballad material (stuff not unlike Isaac Hayes), but I love his stuff when it gets funky as his guitar is always really tasty. Good comp. 'Across 110th Street' was always the tune that got me interested in Womack's music.
― earlnash, Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link
"Daylight" is his ultimate masterpiece. The catchier things he did, the more ornate work, is his best; as a conventional soul singer doing the conventional cover versions, except for "Fly Me to the Moon," he wasn't all that interesting. "How I Miss You Baby," "What Is This," "It's Gonna Rain" (Tommy Cogbill's bass rules), "Arkansas State Prison," "That's the Way I Feel About Cha," and the mind-boggling "You're Welcome, Stop on By" are amazing. I don't care for his '70s albums, by and large--the material isn't there and his covers are forgettable. "If You Think You're Lonely Now" from '80 is his last great moment. I like his more obvious stuff from the Moman recordings, "Broadway Walk" and so forth. But he was never really the soul vocalist his peers were, so it has a self-regarding edge that detracts from its impact--he was just conceptually a bit soft, undefined. I love him, beautiful guitarist, but I think his career boils down into a fairly small set of tunes. Maybe someone could compile the later stuff to some effect.
― eddhurt, Saturday, 10 February 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link