Radiohead - In Rainbows : What Are You Paying?

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How are you getting the new album?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
I paid £40/$80 for the discbox. 52
I donated NOTHING and will have a free download and not buy a physical format. 23
I donated NOTHING but will buy a normal CD if one is released... 20
I donated under £5/$10 for the download. 17
I donated NOTHING but will buy the discbox IF I like the album. 8
I donated Over £5/$10 for the download. 7
I donated NOTHING but will buy a normal vinyl if one is released... 6
I donated something but may buy a discbox or regular cd/vinyl later.4


Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

I didn't donate anything, but I'll be at the record store the day it's released on CD to pick up a copy or eight.

three handclaps, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

I wonder how many will actually pay for the download that wouldn't normally buy from itunes or any other such site.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

These poll options don't really reflect the interesting part of this, which is how much money people are choosing to donate, which I assume will be lots of interesting choices between one penny and ten dollars.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but that would've left too many options and I couldn't be arsed!
Plus that can be done later anyway.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

also "donate" isn't really the right word. you're buying an object, you're just choosing whether to pay for it and how much.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

Anyway you can say here how much you paid.
I'm getting the discbox for my xmas.
How much did ilxors pay for the downloads?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

£2.45

Mark G, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

you people are crazy

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Tuesday, October 2, 2001

am0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

I paid nothing for a download that is being given away free on the Internet.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

zelda zonk has the right idea.

whatever, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd pay something if they gave a coupon voucher to discount that amount when I bought the CD. Don't have any desire to pay for the same music twice.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

£0.00

dmr, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

would maybe buy a normal vinyl later if I love it

dmr, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

£2.80

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

got the box. would have sent them a sandwich for jonny though.

StanM, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

0.00 for the download. If I like it okay, I'll buy the regular cd or lp release. If I love it, I might buy the discbox. Still, I think of the many cds/lps I could get for the price of one discbox.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

i.e. At the very least I'll buy the regular release when it comes out.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

I ordered the discbox on the probably skewed logic that i've already spent hundreds if not thousands of pounds following them on tour and buying stuff over the last decade so i'd be churl not to. I can hear my little brother's voice saying 'big windaes'.

leigh, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

I donated nothing and will not download the electronic version because Radiohead is just ripping off the creators of the music by making it freely available on the web before it comes out in stores.

dad a, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

paid for the discbox.

I bought the special editions of kid a, amnesiac and hail to the thief, so I'm just that kind of loser, I guess.

Z S, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

why are people rushing to pre-order the download now, anyway? might as well wait until just before or after the 10th to hit up the site, it'll probably be less busy by then.

who wants to hazard a guess at how long Pitchfork will wait to run a review after the release? I wouldn't be surprised if Schreiber or somebody listened to it for 24 hours straight and published their review on the 11th.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm publishing my review on the 9th, you know, so people can read it and make an informed purchase.

mh, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

zilch.

Roz, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

5.00$ and i normally would not have bought it from itunes.

but if the album is good i will probably still buy it on cd

gman, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

discbox > regular priced downloads > freeloaders, apparently:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7024130.stm

StanM, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

He said: "Although the idea is that you can decide what you want to pay, most people are deciding on a normal retail price with very few trying to buy it for a penny."

o rly

Jordan, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

So the people who filled in 0.00 actually get the rarest version! :-(

StanM, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

OOP UNUSED RADIOHEAD DOWNLOAD USER ID + PASSWORD L@@K NOW RARE

StanM, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Will download off P2P from someone who bothered going to the site

Gavin, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha!

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

what a badass!

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

i doubt that they wont release a 'normal' retail version a little later...

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

I hope they publish the stats later of how many discboxes were sold and how many people took a free download and how many paid.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:15 PM (22 minutes ago)

thom yorke's face

am0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

i thought about it but i was like that's too much work

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bob Mould polls his blog readers about this:

http://modulate.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html

StanM, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw bobs post and voted for a $20 annual fee because 1 album and a few singles is all bob could make in a year. I think that's fair. But he would have to do that, and then the quality may drop(and I haven't liked a whole album by bob since The Dog & Pony show.) Drop the auto-tune please bob!
Infact I'll pay him $40 now if he promises never to use it again!

For bands like Boris who make 6 + albums a year then $40 may be justified!!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

I will probably pay whatever the CD will cost in Norway (probably 149 kroner, which is the usual news discount at Platekompaniet). So I picked the first option. I own every single CD by then, and I will own this one too even though my expectations aren't quite what they used to be after "OK Computer" and before "Kid A".

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't really like Radiohead all that much, but I like this idea, so I think I will give them two of my American dollars that they can spend on whatever they want.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Maybe I'll see if they wanna do a trade.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

bob mould sez: "The skeptic in me says the next big band to try something like this will be silently, and invisibly, financed and marketed by a major label."

otm, bob. majors are already fucking around with you tube and pretending like they ain't; what's to stop them from pulling a stunt like this?

Lawrence the Looter, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

A sandi thom type stunt.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 23:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

major labels are worse than big oil or hitler that's for sure, if anyone would come up with a sweet scheme to give away records for free it'd be them. i think most of them are owned by jews they are kind of shifty like that.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 23:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Is that an Xasthur quote? ;)

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 23:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE!

DOWNLOAD CULTURE IS NOT FOR $$$$ALE!!!!!

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 23:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

I didn't expect that to win. I was sure the I donated NOTHING and will have a free download and not buy a physical format. would.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

52! No wonder they can afford to give the downloads away for free.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

I wonder if the amount for people who paid for the download would be much lower now that they know the bitrate is 160.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

you people are insane.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

and/or rich.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

they're insane. fuck this board.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

$4000 off ILX alone

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 00:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

That will pay for the yachts

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 01:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

I agree, people here be rich and crazy. You haven't even heard the bloody thing yet! HELLO? I don't care how much of a fan you are, that is absolutely insane.

Bimble, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 02:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like the assumption that the votes are legit.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yes because nothing is more ROFFLICIOUS than voting "I paid £40/$80 for the discbox"! Those clowns!

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

This is ILX. Logic does not apply.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm freeloading. If I like the album, a friend and I are splitting the discbox. He gets the CDs, I get the vinyls, we split the goodies.

I can totally rationalize $40 for a deluxe vinyl + implied international shipping.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 03:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

your friend is getting ripped off

gman, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 05:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hoos, do you REALLY have a record player? Because you must be one of like every 300,000 people your age with a record player, and if so, I salute you. Please don't hold any drunken mathematics against me, thanks.

Bimble, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 05:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Not everyone has a record player in this day and age, and I bloody salute those who do.

As Elvis said "Thank you vaaray much"

Bimble, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 05:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

I paid £0. I wasn't even going to want to listen to it, so I guess the hype worked to get me to hear it/participate in the buffoonery. So well done Radiohead.

Mister Craig, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 05:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

I paid 1p + 45p.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 08:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7037194.stm

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 12:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd have been interested to see how a "not going to bother at all" option would have done (though obviously there's a fair few not-botherers who wouldn't even click on the thread).

Groke, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Anyway, my favourite Radiohead album is still Pablo Honey. Get back to your best, boys, and I might be persuaded to give you more than £0.00 next time.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think that's where he lost any remaining credibility :)

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

They haven't announced how many people ordered the discbox or downloads. I wonder what the figures would be. How many did Hail To The Thief sell?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hoos, do you REALLY have a record player? Because you must be one of like every 300,000 people your age with a record player, and if so, I salute you. Please don't hold any drunken mathematics against me, thanks.

-- Bimble, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:46 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Link

i think vinyl is kind of making a comeback, my friends in bands that tour a lot say they consistently sell more vinyl than CDs, and to people in their early 20s.

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's definitely become in vogue the past few years. Probably due to all the ltd edition collector stuff.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

i just fixed my parents' old record player last weekend! i suppose i could start buying vinyl now since i don't carry CDs around anyway so portability is not an issue

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

lots of stuff on indie labels like sub pop, merge, and 4AD gives you a certificate for free 256K mp3s, nice deal

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

They haven't announced how many people ordered the discbox or downloads. I wonder what the figures would be.

The two main rumours are:

The average price paid for 'In Rainbows' has been around £4.72 and the band have made around £1.3m so far.

or

45,000 box sets
170,000 downloads @ £1.49

Which is around £2M (assuming they pay 49p themselves for the downloads).

aldo, Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/magazinemonitor/2007/10/random_stat_34.shtml

Random stat
Posted Friday, 12 October 2007 at 10:08 UK time A survey of music fans who downloaded Radiohead's new album found that 29% paid either nothing or just 1p. More than half gave up to £10.

Do they mean us?

Mark G, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

(sum, sum, sum, dif, dif, div...)

ach, no.

Mark G, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

I paid exactly £5. There is no option for me.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7073079.stm

Rock group Radiohead have signed a deal to give their digital album In Rainbows a "physical" release.

The agreement with UK label XL means the album - previously only available via digital download - will shortly be available in shops and other outlets.

The band made music history last month by allowing fans to pay what they liked to download their seventh studio album.

The deal with XL covers all territories outside North America. A release date for the CD has yet to be announced.

London-based XL, part of the Beggars Banquet group, previously released Radiohead singer Thom Yorke's solo album The Eraser.

'Exaggerated'

Radiohead's novel way of releasing In Rainbows set a precedent, though it is unclear how successful the experiment has been financially.

No official figures have been released, though their manager has said reports of 1.2 million sales were "exaggerated".

Fans were invited to put their own price on the 10 MP3 files that made up the album, from nothing to £100.

Radiohead - whose previous albums include Kid A, The Bends and OK Computer - are just one of the acts exploring new ways to reach consumers.

Earlier this week Sir Cliff Richard announced he would cut the price of his latest album if enough fans ordered it ahead of its download release.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8SOC7200&show_article=1

Most Fans Paid $0 for Radiohead Album
Nov 6 03:39 PM US/Eastern
By ALEX VEIGA
AP Business Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Radiohead let its fans decide how much to pay for a digital copy of the band's latest release, "In Rainbows," and more than half of those who downloaded the album chose to pay nothing, according to a study by a consumer research firm.

Some 62 percent of the people who downloaded "In Rainbows" in a four- week period last month opted not to pay the British alt-rockers a cent. But the remaining 38 percent voluntarily paid an average of $6, according to the study by comScore Inc.

Radiohead broke with its past practice of releasing its music in CD format and through a major record label when it released its seventh studio album online itself. The biggest wrinkle was the band's decision to let fans pay as much or as little as they wanted to download a copy.

The results of the study were drawn from data gathered from a few hundred people who are part of comScore's database of 2 million computer users worldwide. The firm, which has permission to monitor the computer users' online behavior, did not provide a margin of error for the study's results.

Between Oct. 1 and Oct. 29, about 1.2 million people visited the Web site the band set up for fans to download the album, comScore said Monday. The research firm did not say how many people in its study actually bought the album.

Among U.S. residents, about 40 percent who downloaded the album paid to do so. Their average payment was $8.05, the firm said.

Some 36 percent of the fans outside the U.S. who downloaded the album opted to pay; on average, those fans paid $4.64, according to the study.

Radiohead's U.S.-based publicist said Tuesday the band had no comment on the study.

The online release sent shock waves through the recording industry, with some hailing it as a shrewd move at a time of declining CD sales industrywide and others writing it off as a publicity stunt that amounted to the band giving away its music.

The band, which also offered fans the option of buying a lavish box set for about $82, plans to release the album in CD format some time next year.

turkey, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 21:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

A lot of people paid $0, but I know a lot of us are going to go out and get the record the day it hits the stores.

Prediction: unless some other huge album comes out in the same week, In Rainbows will go to #1 on the album charts.

three handclaps, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 21:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

I like how that article frames it as a pretty significant failure.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 21:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

A lot of people paid $0, but I know a lot of us are going to go out and get the record the day it hits the stores.

you're right. from what i gather, most people who paid nothing did so because they're just going to buy the physical release anyway when it comes out (myself included)

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 21:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Me included too. Of course I had to hear this thing once it was available, but I will of course purchase the actual CD. Hopefully more than 160 kbs too.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 22:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7082627.stm

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 14:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

If that article is right, and my calculations are right (and they may well not be), then Radiohead made £1,322,400 out of the downloads.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 14:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Radiohead have been bankrolled by their former label for the last 15 years," said Michael Laskow, chief executive of Taxi, a company that helps bands get signed to record labels.

Like the label got nothing out of the deal.

onimo, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 15:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ah, as in "Taxi for These Animal Men" ?

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 15:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Taxi, a company that helps bands get signed to record labels

You have get signed up by a company to help you get signed up by a label these days?

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 15:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah, check out Glitterbest and NEMS for other bands who have benefited from this approach.

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 15:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

Nearly half of all U.K. downloaders pay for new Radiohead album

jaymc, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

To sum up: Britishers were more likely to pay than Americans, but the Americans who did pay paid more.

jaymc, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

“I am surprised by the number of freeloaders,” said Fred Wilson, managing partner of Union Square Ventures and well-known music aficionado. “The stories to date about the In Rainbows ‘pick your price’ download offer have been much more optimistic. I paid $5 (£2.45) and had no reluctance whatsoever to take out my card and pay. It’s a fantastic record, the best thing they've done in years. But, this shows pretty conclusively that the majority of music consumers feel that digital recorded music should be free and is not worth paying for. That's a large group that can't be ignored and its time to come up with new business models to serve the freeloader market.”

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7103071.stm

Yorke paid nothing for own album

No-one was given copies of the album for fear of it being leaked
Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke has admitted he was among the thousands of people who paid nothing to download the band's latest album.
Last month the group released In Rainbows online and invited fans to set their own price.

Speaking to BBC 6 Music's Steve Lamacq, Yorke said: "There wasn't any point. I just move some money from one pocket to the other."

According to one survey, three in five people paid nothing at all for it.

The project, which in October one of the band's managers Bryce Edge admitted was a "risk", was shrouded in secrecy.

"We had to literally tell no-one. I didn't tell my wife we were going to release it like this," said guitarist Ed O'Brien.

Yorke added that no-one was allowed to have copies of the master recording in case it was leaked beforehand.

"Every record that we've done for ages has been leaked. And why not leak the bloody thing yourself?" he said.


Every record that we've done for ages has been leaked. And why not leak the bloody thing yourself?

Internet monitoring company Comscore found the average price paid for the album was $6 (£2.90).

American fans were the most generous, paying on average $8.05 (£3.85), compared with the $4.64 (£2.22) paid by those outside the US.

Of those who were willing to pay, the largest percentage (17%) paid less than $4 (£1.90).

However 12% were willing to pay between $8-$12, (£3.80 - £5.71).

During the first 29 days of October, 1.2 million people worldwide visited the In Rainbows site, but it is not clear how many downloads were made.

Radiohead recently announced the CD and vinyl versions of the album will be released in shops on 31 December.

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 09:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yorke said: "There wasn't any point. I just move some money from one pocket to the other."

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 22:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

"like Tommy Cooper. Just like that!"

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 22:49 (nine years ago) Permalink


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