The Beatles - Revolver POLL

I can't tell when people are joking on ILX anymore.

all the joking's on those lols polls, right?
the rest's all serious, no?

is "tomorrow never knows" still gonna win tho?

you must be jokin', yo.

no one's jokin im straight yolkin' lingbert be tokin'

What a hilarious parody!

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....and "Here, There and Everywhere"

you're an ass

Yeah, I've had too much pizza and it's making me acidic.

This is sophomoric, I'd say.

YOU = ASS

Yep.

i voted "and your bird can sing", even tho "eleanor rigby" is probably the best song on the record (and I think top 5 or 10 beatles). i think I did the same last time

i voted for tomorrow never knows

So so close between "She Said She Said" and "Love You To", but i've got to go with the latter.

But yes this poll is ridic

but i'm mildly intrigued as to what the result will be

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Infinity percent more votes for Yellow Submarine than for Taxman is some bullshit.

.. and this isn't even Geir's poll.

ILXors can't help votin for Revolver!

Low turnout.

No turnout would have been preferable

cmon, sky of blue, sea of green, that has to be more endearing than 2 votes

Donovan wrote that line

but RINGO NAILED IT

'She Said She Said' still does it for me in the same way as it did on my first listen.

Dunno why this gets elevated as the pinnacle of their classic era, I like some songs but personally find it their weakest of that period

mostly cuz the McCartney tunes are uncharacteristically syrupy compared to his other work with 'em

for no one tho

I'm Only Sleeping way too low.

Dunno why this gets elevated as the pinnacle of their classic era, I like some songs but personally find it their weakest of that period

Yeah, some real dudly duds in here tbh.

actually agree with this -- never thought Revolver was a bad record, but never quite understood why it became such a symbol of greatness. The only thing I can think of is that critics got tired of giving Sgt Peppers the default best-Beatles prize, and couldn't bring themselves to shift praise to Magical Mystery Tour -- perhaps going on the logic that Revolver was Sgt Peppers stripped of fat, and feat a still-touring, fighting Beatles? Anyway, to me, Rubber Soul is a better record than both. (And I think today, Abbey Road or the White Album are the go-to albums for new fans)

white album is the best
end poem.

this always felt like a weird choice for 'best beatles album' because it really feels like the one that's easiest to overlook, lots of songs here that no one really talks about much (it always takes me a minute to remember what 'i want to tell you' even sounds like). it's probably consistently my second favorite beatles album, i espec love all the lennon songs.

I think nine of the fourteen songs are perfect, probably the highest hit rate of a Beatles album.

And the ones I'm not so keen on can't exactly be described as duds.

way bigger duds on abbey road and white album honestly.

Fuck no.

inferior songs to revolver:

mean mr. mustard
maxwell's silver hammer
her majesty
honey pie
wild honey pie
piggies
yer blues
rocky racoon

Oh, I think you mean inferior songs on Revolver?

Eleanor Rigby
For No One
I'm Only Sleeping
Love You To
I Want to Tell You
Taxman

ok, just know that the universe thinks you're wrong

those songs are all great except for 'love you to' imo.

tbh, an album consisting of darin's rejects on side 1 and how's life's rejects on side 2 would be a damn good album.

superior 'Take 7' of Here There And Everywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRrZBj7vaSc

i'm only sleeping has always been the height of revolver to me. TNK is spectacular obviously but for the backwards-guitar psychedelic jams i've always preferred IOS.

I'm happy being wrong in a universe Eleanor Rigby. I could probably get by with just Doctor Robert, got to get you into my life, and your bird can sing, and yellow submarine.

And Your Bird Sing also got robbed. hell, almost all of the songs got robbed. tomorrow never knows is a classic but it doesn't tower above the rest of the album like this poll suggests

Yeah, there was so much hype about TNK before I heard it and then its just three minutes long? That song needed to be at least 7 minutes or so, imo.

I thought "Help" was the current "Best Beatles Album" thesedays?

I'd love to see where this album would rank in The Beatles' discography if 'Tomorrow Never Knows' was left off. While I love many of the songs on this album, it seems (at times) that the album's entire reputation hinges on that track alone.

Also, McCartney's songs on this record are much better than his contributions to Pepper.

principles before personalities

Delighted to know that I wind you up so much, Thomas.

also, if you reverse the clip in question, the part that sounds reversed in the original sounds like a normal note (a ghost note, actually) placed into the middle of a sea of reversal.

oh well. i mean there's nothing online about reversing a small bit of a ringo fill on "she said she said" anywhere online, and all of these recordings have been relentlessly examined, so i'm sure it didn't happen.

but agree with flappy b that it does sound like that, and if i knew how to make a sound like that on a drumset i'd be doing it left and right, probably as part of a Mysteries of Aural Illusion act in a carnival.

If you listen closely to the drum track throughout the song, you'll hear that Ringo is ghosting on the snare (and occasionally the hi-hat) throughout the song... this, combined with Emerick's close-miking on the drums is what's achieving the effect you hear. I'm 120% sure there's nothing reversed on there.

it does sound like that for sure, no argument there, as an anecdotal evidence kind of guy my support for the claim is I've had this happen to me several times since we got a drummer. we're not the Beatles so nobody every bears down and listens hard enough to notice this stuff but on several occasions I've gone WHAAAAAT THE FUCK IS THAT YOU GENIUS to the engineer or mixer and he's like "ha, no, thanks, that's just your drummer, he's really good, I know sounds backwards but it's just how the part fits into the track." on one of these occasions I was really like "are these people fucking with me?" but they weren't, this just happens.

yeah, i think it's an accidental studio effect - i don't hear it on the snare drum in the rest of the song, but there are a couple parts near the end (just before and after the final "she saaaaaaid" coda) where the cymbals almost sound reversed, and i do recognize that as something that happens when you beat the shit out of a cymbal that's way too close to an iphone, i mean microphone.

some of ringo's very best drumming on this song

an iphone, i mean microphone.

idgi

x-post:

I think Ringo himself has gone on record as saying 'Rain' is his finest drumming, but for me it's between 'She Said She Said' and 'Tomorrow Never Knows', really!

iphone/microphone

at the time i thought there was something interesting about how nowadays most people just use an iphone to record a practice sesh vs setting up a real microphone, but in the cold light of 22 minutes later, not so much!

turrican those two, along with ticket to ride, might make up my top 3 for ringo. he was really on a roll in 65/66

Recently noticed how crucial he is to ''Wait'' working at all as a song. Not flashy or anything, just really smart choices to inject interest into a below-average Lennon/McCartney product.

Ringo's my favorite player of the four by such a wide margin you can't even see the other three in the rearview.

My #1 is She Said She Said or For No One, depending on the day

I love "Wait" purely for that line..

"and I've been good, as good as I can be"

i.e. not very 'good' at all

Wasn't 'Wait' a Help! reject that ended up on Rubber Soul because they needed one more song?

^yes. one of Rubber Soul's many duds

btw thank you everyone for going in on this thread revive. question answered :)

Got to Get You into My Life 0
Good Day Sunshine 0
Taxman 0

scenes.

^yes. one of Rubber Soul's many duds

― flappy bird, Sunday, 30 October 2016 23:23 (yesterday) Permalink

lol burned rubber

Rubber Soul, why is it so burned and hated?

Oh, I bet it was a big hit back in 1965.

I think Ringo himself has gone on record as saying 'Rain' is his finest drumming, but for me it's between 'She Said She Said' and 'Tomorrow Never Knows', really!

for me it's always going to be the backing tracks to "Strawberry Fields Forever", especially that end bit with the multi percussion. it's at the one of one of the outtakes on Anthology 2 CD 2.

OK after 45 years listening to this album I have just realised that only two songs make it to three minutes - and then only just. I would have thought Tomorrow Never Knows was, like, nine minutes. Every song a world.

Otm

yup. i dug this and Rubber Soul out the other day and I was amazed that I managed to listen to them both in the space it took to cook, eat and wash-up my breakfast.

Eight of the fourteen under 2:30 and three more between 2:30 and 2:40.

The Overlanders in 1966: 'It's just mediocre [...] I'd be embarrassed to say that I had written some of the numbers on this LP."

"Revolver: it sucks" (Record Mirror, 3 Sept 1966) pic.twitter.com/D86CK0QlYK

— Bowiesongs (@bowiesongs) July 25, 2022

lol more like The Underlisteners

From wikipedia: Although they released twelve singles on the Pye record label between 1963 and 1966, the Overlanders' only British hit was a cover version of the Beatles' "Michelle."

I guess they would've preferred more "Michelle"-type songs.

"We haven't been in the charts of late"

The Popular Overlanders thread is quite lovely IIRC - a lot of them turn-up and it turns into an ongoing reunion where they trade reminisces of others and a different era.

after two decades of being way too cool for the Beatles I have started listening to Revolver and it's really fucking great!!!

(re Overlanders' complaint)Yeah, and the L.A. jazz saxophonist Bud Shank also had a lounge-y hit w "Michelle"(not one of the better Beatles ballads, for sure: I enjoyed Albert Finney's sarcastically intoning the tres Frawnch lyrics in Shoot The Moon), after which he too dissed the Bs, though he may have taken it back when he very eventually swore off the cocktails.
"Tomorrow Never Knows" totally deserves to toppermost this poll, though I'm surprised that "Taxman" gets 0: wry and poised,not stingy with the rockin', to say the least: on my imaginary Beatles playlist, it follows"TNK" in perfect counterweight: two heavy views of dues, equally real.
The original US Revolver appealed as something on the cusp and motorbike handlebars, wearing shades and a tie, on the way to and from high school: pop values, but slipping something else in there--especially dug the darker side of "She Said She Said," like notes passed in class, and high spirits x striving of "Good Day Sunshine" and "Got To Get You Into My Life," w final revelation-->intrigue of "Tomorrow..." Although this was US, so had to wait for "I'm Only Sleeping", "Doctor Robert" and "And Your Bird Can Sing" to appear on cobblefest Yesterday and Today with tracks left off American Help! and Rubber Soul, but resluts were cool, even groovy,in a raw collage-y way:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesterday_and_Today Though this says that the CD version, which didn't come out 'til 2014, uses some UK mixes and so on, and might not hit me the same way, but that's okay. More of a loss from this era's experience were "Rain" and "Paperback Writer," highlights of Revolver sessions, but I had them on a single single, and eventually on cobbled Hey Jude, and def on aforementioned imaginary friend playlist.

I suppose they might have been left off both versions of the LP because some of their devices, the droniness and so on, were considered to make other tracks less distinctive, also I've read that back then the inclusion of hit singles on UK LPs was considered a waste of space or some shit. Early pop-rock LPs that were mainly a few hit singles and a lot of filler may have led to this idea of "reform," so pop-rock LPs could be as legit as jazz and classical albums.

Oh wow, how did I miss the Overlanders comments gold on Popular back in the day?? An absolute treasure.

this one, from a band member who left just a few months before those Revolver comments hit the stands, is quite interesting in this light: Take it from me as one of the original trio comprising Laurie Mason Peter Bartholomew and myself Paul Arnold Friswell and the first to leave in summer 1966, we had no delusions of grandeur and we didn`t think we were the greatest thing since sliced bread as many do today.

from the same: Michelle was our tenth single getting to No 1 Jan 1966.I don`t really give a monkeys what people think of it, its history, Getting to No 1 was my Mount Everest and I climbed it alongside some great people. right on.

another member reports: When we returned to England (I think, New Years day 1966.) all the music papers were giving the release of Michelle, rave reviews and none of us imagined that how our lives would change in the course of the next few weeks. Fantastic times: touring, radio, TV and meeting an unbelievable galaxy of stars. It was very disappointing not to have a follow up hit and it all started to come unglued from the middle of 1966.

also I've read that back then the inclusion of hit singles on UK LPs was considered a waste of space or some shit

except for their soundtrack albums, the beatles in particular were pretty strict about keeping their singles separate from their albums for most of their career. (which is why the "past masters" cds exist!)

Jeez come on guys

Got to Get You into My Life 0
I Want to Tell You 0
Good Day Sunshine 0
Taxman 0

except for their soundtrack albums, the beatles in particular were pretty strict about keeping their singles separate from their albums for most of their career. (which is why the "past masters" cds exist!)

Ha, contextually funny because they made their first exception to that rule with the Yellow Submarine/Eleanor Rigby double A-side. Why? to supposedly thwart any hit covers of Eleanor Rigby (a decision which likely doubles as a sly dig at the Overlanders' Michelle).

I think that exclusivity was mostly for the "lead" singles - I'm not sure what to call them because even though they're not on the forthcoming LP, they kind of promoted them as a preview of how they'd sound. Either that or the singles couldn't be on an LP before the single was released (only at the same time or after).

Or I should say, I always thought that exclusivity etc

another road where maybe
i could see another kind
of mind there

Was about to moan about the number of songs that got zero votes, only to see I’ve done it twice already.

Third time is the charm

Three times!

Got to Get You into My Life 0
Good Day Sunshine 0
Taxman 0

0__o

― piscesx, Sunday, January 4, 2015

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Good Day Sunshine 0
Taxman 0

scenes.

― piscesx, Monday, October 31, 2016

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Jeez come on guys

Got to Get You into My Life 0
I Want to Tell You 0
Good Day Sunshine 0
Taxman 0

― piscesx, Monday, July 25, 2022

haha oh man.

Good Day Sunshine is Paul at his most unbearable. I agree that the other three got robbed though

agreed, perhaps my least favorite Beatles song

does anybody else really really love the “got to get you into my life” demo on anthology?

I don't mind "Good Day Sunshine." I'm not a fan of "Taxman." George Harrison grumbling about having to pay taxes drags it down. The Jam did use the bassline and guitar riff to good effect, though.

quite like Good Day Sunshine, even more so in the "Bad Night Moonlight" version by Peter Serafinowicz where he puts it into a minor key and changes all the lyrics "I need screams / and when the moon is out / I've got something you can scream about"

Got To Get You Into My Life is straight up magnificent