Does anyone REALLY like My Bloody Valentine?

Basically -- yup, I sure as hell do. Fave song of all time, fave album, fave concert...

Well, he's half right.

Yes, really love them. I fell heavily for the creation eps and used to rave endlessly on about them to friends, acquaintances, anyone (doing tapes etc) with a missionary zeal. I once dreamt my flat was on fire and 'Isn't Anything' was the first thing I grabbed. Obviously not your cup of tea Calum, definitely mine.

Anyway... In answer to Callum's question - the simple fact that people talk about My Bloody Valentine so much and express such affection / admiration / etcetera towards them proves that, yes, indeed, some people really do love them. What it doesn't do, however, is give you reason to love them as well.

And just for the record, I think 'Loveless' is the 21st greatest album ever made.

Listening to 'Only Shallow' right now, and the bit where the chorus ends and the trumpet-fanfare-esque noise slowly falls out of synch with the drums, just as it drops down into the verse, made my hair stand on end.

Bare in mind that I didn't think much of MBV until just then. I think it could have something to do with the fact that when I first got the album I was at home sick with the flu, so I associated being incredibly disoriented and brainfucked with the music itself.

To whoever suggested that one should turn up the volume to feel the bass: there is no fucking bass. That's probably my only great grievance with it.

no

Sure, you could do that...but trust me, some records sound more interesting when you do it this way.

And in the next cubicle is Calum Roberts yelling "Turn that bloody racket down, Raggett!" as he cranks up his new Kylie CD.

Now, personally speaking I don't give two hoots about the 'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up' bollocks... that sounds like you're apologising for the sheer shiteness of the album and trying to defend it.

Nor, personally, do I care if there is any bass in there either.

No, no, no... my entire point was asking if I'm alone (well, my girlfriend hates it too) in thinking it's utter, utter tunelss bollocks. Judging by the respones to this thread, the band still has its defenders - and that's cool. I was simply passing an opinion and wondering if any like minded people thought that Loveless was shite.

Thanks to those that understood and responded with due intelligence.

(I assume you mean tuneless). WTF? It is gloriously tuneful! Try 'Come in Alone' for starters - how can you not hear the tune(s)? Ok, they're presented in an unusual way, but SURELY you can't be serious? TUNELESS? Pah!

I presume you've had those moments...and I presume when you're describing them to others, you're not defending but explaining rapture. Just a little something to keep in mind.

Still, it's a great record though, isn't it? Now listening to 'Off Your Face' from the 'Glider' 12". Giddying, effervescent.

'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up'

Must try this.

I tried that and it didn't work. Was it 'cuz I replaced the Tizer with malt liquor, or because I was drinking it though a Crazee-Twisty-Straw. Plus is made the blood rush to wrong head.

This is probably the truest thing I've ever read on ILM.

To answer BSJ's question on a personal level, I adored Loveless pretty much as soon as I first heard it, and I haven't been able to get into Isn't Anything at all yet. Maybe this will change on repeat hearings but Loveless seems to be doing far more of the things I really enjoy.

Here's an idea. Why don't people feeling talked out on a subject just not talk about it?

I have never talked about this band when anyone ever until yesterday.

So as the very last person on this board to hear Loveless, I must say that it's quite nice. Very pretty in spots, and the walls of lovely feedback hit just the right frequency down my spine. I'm not sure (after only one listen, admittedly) if I could really break it down into distinct songs, but it's a great listen as an album. Which I realize isn't anything that you guys haven't figured out on your own already, but I just thought I would share.

My recent posts here feel far more recent.. but anyway, after listening on and off since last summer, my favorites on Loveless are currently sounding better than my favorites on Isn't Anything. So perhaps I was wrong? It may be way better than I thought it was a few months ago. Also I got that Continuum 33 1/3 Loveless book which is also sort of increasing my interest in this band.

i keep wanting to like Loveless. it's on my ipod, and whenever a proper mood hits me, i turn it on. i cant even make it through one song. i just don't dig it.

ok

how come no one ever told me that Isn't Anything was like, a good record with actual songs and stuff? This is way better than Loveless.

I had meant to tell you that, actually. So much better than Loveless, really.

^

though i am a bit odd in that i like the SSS/ecstasy stuff best of all

Never Say Goodbye may be my favorite MBV song.

It is lately, anyway.

glad we're in agreement on all this boys, now let the maniacs tell us we're RONG.

i think mbv are the kind of band where I think whatever I'm listening to at the time is their best. In fact, I was half-convincing myself earlier this year that the Patti Smith thing was Shields' finest hour.

glad we're in agreement on all this boys, now let the maniacs tell us we're RONG.

Hey I'm just sitting here.

*belatedly rushes in waving a Loveless flag*

I know that the principles were not geniuses (in any conventional sense), I know that the sound of Loveless is technically available to anyone with a laptop, two amps, two mics, and a stack of reverb pedals. I also know that (In The Presence Of Nothing and Despondent Transponder aside) few have bothered to emulate it.

The thing is, that fucking Loveless album ruined guitar music for me. For nearly two decades I've sought my musical transcendance in other genres, because Kevin Shields had taken all the potential envelope Albini hadn't claimed. I became a house fan, nodding my head to repetitive electronic beats, all because that Shields fellow dominating the guitar side of my head.

I say he's a witch.

I remember one winter, when I was lonely and smoking too much pot, all I played was 'daydream nation,' 'white light/white heat,' and 'loveless'
A lot of walking around with headphones, just letting it wash over me.

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congratulations you could pass for an american college student!

loveless is ok, I like it better than Isn't Anything, but I prefer the earlier EPs. tbh I think I'd rather listen to This Is Your Bloody Valentine than Loveless.

basically I'm the worst my bloody valentine fan in the world

Their best 18.42 minutes was the Tremolo EP, and I suggest trial by ordeal for those who disagree.

i've never heard "this is your BV" which i should probably remedy. i like geek! a lot.

I'd take it a bit further and suggest that "Glider" EP + "Tremolo" EP > "Loveless".

tremolo is perfect start to finish

the Glider EP is v. good

you could pass for an american college student!

wait the average american college student listens to MBV, Velvet Underground & sonic youth ?

the glider ep was the first valentines i heard.. don't ask why and off your face completely bent my teenage brain

hi these guys suck

u put on loveless and when the first song comes on ure like 'YAAAAAAH this sounds like a dying elephant it is awesome' but then the whole thing sounds exctly like that and u just go :/

my fave MBV stuff will always be loveless, glider, tremelo, and the feed me with yer kiss 12 inch. isn't anything is a weak sister compared to that stuff. and i say again like i've said before: if you've never heard feed me with yer kiss 12 inch u.k. version and only heard the album version than you have never ever heard that song.

geez ian all you had to do was ask

check out the ep you made me realise, came out right before isn't anything, not as fuzzy, more poppy, but still good stuff

a compilation of their four creation eps would be better than both albums imo

the creation 12" version is the one I'm thinking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Made_Me_Realise

The first album and early singles are really good. Not sure why people care about Loveless so much.

errr, "first" = Isn't Anything.

*belatedly rushes in waving a Loveless flag*

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this mental image is killing me

J gets bummed by #Lemmy: Deb of #mybloodyvalentine w/ @jmascis

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No lie: I would see her lead a Motorhead tribute band.

original thread question : more in '13 than '02 when this thread was started.

My Bloody Valentine - Sometimes for strings and electronics

*intrigued*

feed me with your kiss VS when you wake you're still in a dream

and also are there songs that are better played at earsplitting volume? if there are just point me that way

Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder

Sometimes is their indiest number - proper mumblecore - but good way to get some punters in.

Not that I'm going as I think this is MORALLY wrong

"Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder"

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That's exactly what I thought... maybe correctly?

I had a feeling that might happen