Does anyone REALLY like My Bloody Valentine?

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I bought Loveless a year ago and it's tuneless rubbish really. It's so fucking bad it makes you want to cry. As far as the songs go, let's face it, it's noisy garbage with no catch.

So why is it rated so highly? Cos Kevin Shields spent £250,000 to produce something that sounds like a cat being slowly strangled?

Am I the only one to pronounce, loudly and proudly, "My Bloody Valentine"... what a load of shite"???

Answers?

― Calum Robert, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

URGENT - Ned Raggett to thread - URGENT

― Billy Dods, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

is this Josh? (heehee.)

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I *could* go on. But I won't, I've said it all before.

Basically -- yup, I sure as hell do. Fave song of all time, fave album, fave concert...

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

"It's so fucking bad it makes you want to cry."

Well, he's half right.

― DavidM, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ah, but which half? ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

-ba +goo
I love MBV, best album ever, etc etc. To say there's no "catch" to it is either an admission that you haven't really listened to it enough or just recognition that it's not your cup of tea (why spend time trying to find the hooks in something you really don't like?). But there's a lot to grab onto in there, especially melody (so the "tuneless" epithet must go). You must listen to this album loud at least once, I think, or the full effect doesn't set in--the bass has got to hit you at least once so you can feel it on repeat listenings even with the volume down.

― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love 'loveless' but avoided buying 'isn't anything' for ages. I bought it and it was attrocious,tuneless shite; now I know why shields burried 'loveless' under so many layers

― Anas FK, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

There is perhaps more hope for me: it sounds nice, but it doesn't hit me hard. I've tried headphones, car, putting it on the system, and it still doesn't work! Fix me!

― Lee, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

It doesn't hit me all that hard either, but I like it ok. As far as the bass needing to hit you; what bass?? The mix is all treble. It's not my hifi's fault, trust me sweeties.

― Sean, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone REALLY like My Bloody Valentine?

Yes, really love them. I fell heavily for the creation eps and used to rave endlessly on about them to friends, acquaintances, anyone (doing tapes etc) with a missionary zeal. I once dreamt my flat was on fire and 'Isn't Anything' was the first thing I grabbed. Obviously not your cup of tea Calum, definitely mine.

― stevo, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Loveless" is great. I am wondering lately if "Isn't Anything" is actually better, though. Yes really.

― John Darnielle, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

And "Only Shallow" has like the most massive hook ever. It's Sabbath through a mile-thick layer of warm marshmallow fuzz. Mmm...

― adam, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Okay, okay, so it's not exactly bass-o-rama. But the point is you need to hear some of it for it to feel as if the mix is surrounding you, pulling you in.

― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I had an essay to do at university for one of my second year exams which was entitled "Can music stimulate emotional responses?". Not 'does music' but 'can music'. The fact that people discuss emotion with regards to music in any context suggests that it indeed 'can', and the matter of whether or not one specific piece of music 'does' for one specific individual is rather irrelevent. The difference between 'can' and 'does' is possibly comparable to the difference between 'balance of probability' and 'beyond reasonable doubt' - one is a damn site easier to achieve than the other.

Anyway... In answer to Callum's question - the simple fact that people talk about My Bloody Valentine so much and express such affection / admiration / etcetera towards them proves that, yes, indeed, some people really do love them. What it doesn't do, however, is give you reason to love them as well.

And just for the record, I think 'Loveless' is the 21st greatest album ever made.

― Nick Southall, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

As far as the songs go, let's face it, it's noisy garbage with no catch.

now you are taking the piss. there's lots of good (some great - "Loomer") melodies on there.
if anything's at fault it's the production, which has been argued about at length
pays dividends in places - "Loomer" & "Soon" (which is hardly representative of the album, belongs with its own EP or alone)
washout elsewhere because - lack of dynamics in the arrangements
the monster drum - bass interplay that elevated the '88 EP's is mostly gone
in favour of frequently plodding continuum
some songs also too long - riffs drawnout/overplayed

enjoyable though it still is, for me Loveless runs a distant 3rd
to the "You Made Me Realise" & "Feed Me With Your Kiss" EPs (#1) and Isn't Anything (#2),
though "Moon Song" off Tremolo EP
and of course "Soon" both among their best...

― Paul, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

strangely, i will actually agree with most here, loveless is a timeless beauty, were it released today it would still sound current and innovative. light years ahead of its time. i would rank it first but i would rank the 'ecstasy and wine' songs over 'isn't anything' which goes a bit goth and silly sometimes. the preceding eps were much better, the backing vocals on cigarette in my bed represent one of the greatest moments in pop history.

― keith, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I adore them. Obviously just to be different, my faves are the Sunny Sundae Smile and New Record By EPs, but that's more because I haven't played them quite as much to death. I prefer IA to Loveless but I pretty much adore every single note they recorded from New Record By.. onwards. I want "Paint A Rainbow" to be playing in my headphones when I pass on..

― electric sound of jim, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

You are all lying.

― Sterling Clover, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Including you?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

No.

― Sterling Clover, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Special thanks to you Calum, for posting this thread. You made me get out my copy of Loveless and listen to it for the first time in 3 years.

Listening to 'Only Shallow' right now, and the bit where the chorus ends and the trumpet-fanfare-esque noise slowly falls out of synch with the drums, just as it drops down into the verse, made my hair stand on end.

Bare in mind that I didn't think much of MBV until just then. I think it could have something to do with the fact that when I first got the album I was at home sick with the flu, so I associated being incredibly disoriented and brainfucked with the music itself.

To whoever suggested that one should turn up the volume to feel the bass: there is no fucking bass. That's probably my only great grievance with it.

― Andrew, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Unfortunately, some of it sucks whilst some of it rocks. There seems to be very little in between.

― Andrew, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Calum- As s.Jaworzyn would say- ''Turn it loud or fuck off!''

― Julio Desouza, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

way to troll ILM! And what about Kraftwerk, eh? They WERE shit. couldn't sing, silly lyrics, etc.

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

^ Am I the only one to pronounce, loudly and proudly, "My Bloody Valentine"... what a load of shite"??? ^

― , Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I find "Loveless" to be much more enjoyable when i am somewhat intoxicated. This will sound trite, but you can 'feel' it a lot more this way, the way the different frequencies and layers resonate.

― long time lurker, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah the wooziness may be the single best thing about it
that and any Belinda vocals/lyrics plus some o them hooks
ok there's still lots to like, sorry love

― Paul, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

To whoever suggested that one should turn up the volume to feel the bass: there is no fucking bass.
Listen up, for fuck's sake: THERE IS BASS ON THAT ALBUM. The fucking point is that you will not hear it properly without some fucking volume. Do you get it now?

― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

And yes, I'm being a bit testier than I have to be because I'm listening to the album over headphones again right now just to prove to myself that there is bass. And that bass is pretty evident on my stereo, even if it is mixed a bit further back than the treble elements.

― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

MBV make the muscial equivalent of Grant Morrisons Flex Mentallo; ie. its so filled with so much (conflicting?) information on so many levels that you can't apprehend it all at once, it take several total immersions before even the faintest inkling of its depths.
If, to you, it sounds like tuneless rubbish with no bass, i suspect you are listening to it in the wrong way. Its not meant for playing in your tinny car speakers while in the drive thru at Mickey D's...Loveless is meant to be played at medium to low volume (with both the Bass and Treble turned all the way up) through a HEADPHONES in a dark room in the middle of the night. Then you'll get it.

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I find that the Breeder's Last Splash and The Cure's Disintegration or Pornography benefit from this technique.

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Medium to low volume, dark room, middle of the night....blimey so it is *actually* wanky!

― Tom, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think how much you enjoy something is directly related to how you consume it. No-one serves cognac out of a paper Dixie cup, Tom. Why should music be 'served' in a way that doesn't fit it?

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Because sometimes you want to hear it in the middle of the day at work and you can't turn up the volume on your computer speakers too loud, as it might disturb.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I just posted a seperate thread so folks can discuss their "preferred technique" for getting the most out their listening. Music Geek Trainspotters Unite! You have nothing to lose but those but those little plastic things that you put into the middle of 45s!

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Because sometimes you want to hear it in the middle of the day at work and you can't turn up the volume on your computer speakers too loud, as it might disturb.

Sure, you could do that...but trust me, some records sound more interesting when you do it this way.

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Alternate answer:
Because sometimes you want to hear it in the middle of the day at work and you can't turn up the volume on your computer speakers too loud, as it might disturb.

And in the next cubicle is Calum Roberts yelling "Turn that bloody racket down, Raggett!" as he cranks up his new Kylie CD.

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

LC I was making a joke about other low-volume middle-of-night activities. Yes definitely some music sounds better in certain circumstances - but I'd also argue that by listening to music in those circumstances you are diminishing the chance of it surprising you.

― Tom, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hoi! Now listen to me fucknuts, I don't own any Kylie CDs, and it is down to my never ending exploration of the indie bargain bins at Fopp that made my buy Loveless in the first place. Well, that and all the acclaim... I wanted to see what I had missed out on.

Now, personally speaking I don't give two hoots about the 'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up' bollocks... that sounds like you're apologising for the sheer shiteness of the album and trying to defend it.

Nor, personally, do I care if there is any bass in there either.

No, no, no... my entire point was asking if I'm alone (well, my girlfriend hates it too) in thinking it's utter, utter tunelss bollocks. Judging by the respones to this thread, the band still has its defenders - and that's cool. I was simply passing an opinion and wondering if any like minded people thought that Loveless was shite.

Thanks to those that understood and responded with due intelligence.

― Calum Robert, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I am not an avant gardist. I tend to not like 'difficult' music much. But Loveless has always sounded quite lovely to me. I don't understand why people make such a fuss of its 'noisiness'. It's woozy, stately, delicious and fucking easy to listen to. I hope no one's been put off trying it by this thread.

― N., Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

**tunelss**

(I assume you mean tuneless). WTF? It is gloriously tuneful! Try 'Come in Alone' for starters - how can you not hear the tune(s)? Ok, they're presented in an unusual way, but SURELY you can't be serious? TUNELESS? Pah!

― Dr. C, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

It won't hit everyone, Calum. There have been detractors since the start. Just think of it this way -- I don't 'defend' MBV. I instead refer to the time when I first heard "Soon," my world stopped, I froze with revelation, and how music never quite sounded the same since then.

I presume you've had those moments...and I presume when you're describing them to others, you're not defending but explaining rapture. Just a little something to keep in mind.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Huh, why don't we just call this site 'I Love Loveless' and be done with it? ('I Loveless Music'? Whichever).

Still, it's a great record though, isn't it? Now listening to 'Off Your Face' from the 'Glider' 12". Giddying, effervescent.

'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up'

Must try this.

― DavidM, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

loveless is pretty: i like it

― mark s, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

It is unspeakably good, and my favorite album too. But I do sometimes listen to the drums'n'bass and think: If only, if only...

― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up'

I tried that and it didn't work. Was it 'cuz I replaced the Tizer with malt liquor, or because I was drinking it though a Crazee-Twisty-Straw. Plus is made the blood rush to wrong head.

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hoi! Now listen to me fucknuts, I don't own any Kylie CDs
"Siddown, Francis."
Theres nothing to be so touchy about. I was goofing around with Ned Raggett, not mocking *you*. It could've been *anybody* in the other hypothetical cubicle (Yeah, it would've probably been funnier if Tom Ewing was the other one, but I only thought of that in hindsight.)
Nobody cares if you do/don't own any Kylie CDs. Your taste in music is nothing to be ashamed of (unless you are into Michael Bolton, then I'm afraid you must be culled.) and theres no point in wigging out over something like this.
As for the "You're just apologizing for a shitty record"; no, I'm not. I suggested this technique to a nay-sayer and she did say that she found the record much more intriguing. (Side note: I realize -- again in hindsight -- I should've just said "If the Cocteau Twins are the light pop end of Shoegazer, then MBV is the Speed Metal end." and dropped the subject.)

― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Your taste in music is nothing to be ashamed of (unless you are into Michael Bolton, then I'm afraid you must be culled.)

This is probably the truest thing I've ever read on ILM.

― Dan Perry, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Who gives a toss about the bass? Jeez, they ain't Primus for cryin out loud. Turn up the reverb!!

― electric sound of jim, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Skipping 196 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

The "drum sound" on Only Shallow is the the second-best part of the song! If I have to explain what #1 is, you're probably not reading this thread to begin with.

― Pillbox, Sunday, 8 June 2008 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

FINALLY, a thread on ilm about my bloody valentine!

Ummm.. this is a 6 year old thread that was revived. I know better than to start up a new one weirdo.

So anyway, I finally found a copy of the YMMR EP on soulseek and it's quite outstanding.

I think it really says something about a particular record when it's so revered that it actually bothers fans when other people who are just really starting to get into the band still enjoy it and yet prefer their other work.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ummm.. this is a 6 year old thread that was revived. I know better than to start up a new one weirdo.

There's this thing called sarcasm.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I understood the sarcasm..

― billstevejim, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

― Z S, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

The weirdest reproductive organ I've ever, er, seen 8-/

― t**t, Sunday, 8 June 2008 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Calum's trolling still works well beyond the grave.

― Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did Calum's boss ever find out about his ILX perusal which would put his wife and kid under financial stress? Hope he's ok.

― Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cool.. I've learned my lesson. Never discuss MBV on ILM ever again or else people will treat you like shit.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bill, if anyone here seems too sharp on the point (and I'm hardly discounting myself), it's just that I'm willing to bet many here are feeling a bit talked out about them at this point. I definitely am! But I also thought your initial revive question was a really good one.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

ITS A GREAT RECORD BUT DOES IT HAVE ONE OF THOSE OLD-SCHOOL 60S DRUM BREAKS NO I DIDN'T THINK SO ONLY RADIOHEAD DO THAT ANYMORE

― Just got offed, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well whatever.. some people catch on to stuff later than others. Out of all my friends, only one owns any of their music.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

To answer BSJ's question on a personal level, I adored Loveless pretty much as soon as I first heard it, and I haven't been able to get into Isn't Anything at all yet. Maybe this will change on repeat hearings but Loveless seems to be doing far more of the things I really enjoy.

― Just got offed, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's an idea. Why don't people feeling talked out on a subject just not talk about it?

― ailsa, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have never talked about this band when anyone ever until yesterday.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 8 June 2008 20:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

So as the very last person on this board to hear Loveless, I must say that it's quite nice. Very pretty in spots, and the walls of lovely feedback hit just the right frequency down my spine. I'm not sure (after only one listen, admittedly) if I could really break it down into distinct songs, but it's a great listen as an album. Which I realize isn't anything that you guys haven't figured out on your own already, but I just thought I would share.

― Fred Krueger Mellencamp (J3ff T.), Saturday, 4 October 2008 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

My recent posts here feel far more recent.. but anyway, after listening on and off since last summer, my favorites on Loveless are currently sounding better than my favorites on Isn't Anything. So perhaps I was wrong? It may be way better than I thought it was a few months ago. Also I got that Continuum 33 1/3 Loveless book which is also sort of increasing my interest in this band.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

i keep wanting to like Loveless. it's on my ipod, and whenever a proper mood hits me, i turn it on. i cant even make it through one song. i just don't dig it.

― pipecock, Sunday, 25 January 2009 03:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 January 2009 03:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

how come no one ever told me that Isn't Anything was like, a good record with actual songs and stuff? This is way better than Loveless.

― ian, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:16 (9 months ago) Permalink

I had meant to tell you that, actually. So much better than Loveless, really.

― Trip Maker, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:19 (9 months ago) Permalink

though i am a bit odd in that i like the SSS/ecstasy stuff best of all

― mighty angus sampson (electricsound), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:22 (9 months ago) Permalink

Never Say Goodbye may be my favorite MBV song.

― Trip Maker, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

It is lately, anyway.

― Trip Maker, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

glad we're in agreement on all this boys, now let the maniacs tell us we're RONG.

― ian, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:28 (9 months ago) Permalink

i think mbv are the kind of band where I think whatever I'm listening to at the time is their best. In fact, I was half-convincing myself earlier this year that the Patti Smith thing was Shields' finest hour.

― tylerw, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

glad we're in agreement on all this boys, now let the maniacs tell us we're RONG.

Hey I'm just sitting here.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:31 (9 months ago) Permalink

*belatedly rushes in waving a Loveless flag*

― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

I know that the principles were not geniuses (in any conventional sense), I know that the sound of Loveless is technically available to anyone with a laptop, two amps, two mics, and a stack of reverb pedals. I also know that (In The Presence Of Nothing and Despondent Transponder aside) few have bothered to emulate it.

The thing is, that fucking Loveless album ruined guitar music for me. For nearly two decades I've sought my musical transcendance in other genres, because Kevin Shields had taken all the potential envelope Albini hadn't claimed. I became a house fan, nodding my head to repetitive electronic beats, all because that Shields fellow dominating the guitar side of my head.

I say he's a witch.

― Biodegradable (Derelict), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

I remember one winter, when I was lonely and smoking too much pot, all I played was 'daydream nation,' 'white light/white heat,' and 'loveless'
A lot of walking around with headphones, just letting it wash over me.

― nicky lo-fi, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

― jØrdån (omar little), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

congratulations you could pass for an american college student!

― ian, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

loveless is ok, I like it better than Isn't Anything, but I prefer the earlier EPs. tbh I think I'd rather listen to This Is Your Bloody Valentine than Loveless.

― omicron deserved 51 (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:51 (9 months ago) Permalink

basically I'm the worst my bloody valentine fan in the world

― omicron deserved 51 (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:52 (9 months ago) Permalink

Their best 18.42 minutes was the Tremolo EP, and I suggest trial by ordeal for those who disagree.

― Biodegradable (Derelict), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

i've never heard "this is your BV" which i should probably remedy. i like geek! a lot.

― mighty angus sampson (electricsound), Monday, 23 November 2009 23:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

I'd take it a bit further and suggest that "Glider" EP + "Tremolo" EP > "Loveless".

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 00:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

tremolo is perfect start to finish

― e honda v. (m bison), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 01:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

the Glider EP is v. good

― lukevalentine, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:11 (9 months ago) Permalink

you could pass for an american college student!

wait the average american college student listens to MBV, Velvet Underground & sonic youth ?

― lukevalentine, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

the glider ep was the first valentines i heard.. don't ask why and off your face completely bent my teenage brain

― "your shades, man, they're shite..." (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

hi these guys suck

― farting irl (cankles), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

u put on loveless and when the first song comes on ure like 'YAAAAAAH this sounds like a dying elephant it is awesome' but then the whole thing sounds exctly like that and u just go :/

― farting irl (cankles), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

my fave MBV stuff will always be loveless, glider, tremelo, and the feed me with yer kiss 12 inch. isn't anything is a weak sister compared to that stuff. and i say again like i've said before: if you've never heard feed me with yer kiss 12 inch u.k. version and only heard the album version than you have never ever heard that song.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:32 (9 months ago) Permalink

geez ian all you had to do was ask

check out the ep you made me realise, came out right before isn't anything, not as fuzzy, more poppy, but still good stuff

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

a compilation of their four creation eps would be better than both albums imo

― "your shades, man, they're shite..." (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

the creation 12" version is the one I'm thinking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Made_Me_Realise

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:08 (9 months ago) Permalink

The first album and early singles are really good. Not sure why people care about Loveless so much.

― Spectrum, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

errr, "first" = Isn't Anything.

― Spectrum, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

*belatedly rushes in waving a Loveless flag*
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Monday, November 23, 2009 11:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this mental image is killing me

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 04:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

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