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in my defense, all that it is for electroclash is a couple of chicks on speed albums. also note that, a don't keep compilations grouped (i only do by genre), so the artists to album ratio, or whatever, appears wildly innacurate here. without the 50 or so odd compilations, it's more like 350 artists to 800 albums.

andi, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

i don't keep*

andi, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

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who keeps genre visible in 'browse'? worst metadata in iTunes ever.

Alan, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

yes. star ratings pointless too.

blueski, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

star ratings can be useful, and aren't pre-populated with RANDOM WORDS from CDDB.

i don't use em myself (well not v often). do ppl that do use them ever rate stuff 1 star?

Alan, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

i have tried to use genre, but it's a lot of work, and i never have it visible in the 'browse' columns, just Artist & Album.

Alan, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

I use star ratings to compile future CDs for friends as I'm on the go. I know they have playlist to go feature, but when listening to 500 songs or more, and I only want the tracks I would rate 4 or 5 stars, it helps to have those stored for future reference.

Also, the genre tool is useful if I want to pull out 100 power pop tracks from the genre dubbed "Rock"--I just change it to Power Pop for these tracks.

But I spend waaaayy too much time sorting iTunes, so there you go...

MC, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

huh, i didn't know you could eliminate the genre window. i thought it was all three in the browse window, or no browse window...

Billy Pilgrim, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

who keeps genre visible in 'browse'? worst metadata in iTunes ever.
Me! But I've subverted Genre into "compilations" "full albums" "spoken word" and "singles" so that I don't have to scroll through the hundreds of one-off artists I have for various singles and compilations.

stet, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Davey D, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

i didn't use genre for a really long time. but now i just have so many albums in itunes, that it's essential. i'd never be able to find anything i wanted to listen to without it.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 19:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

i would just create genre playlists

blueski, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

genre is idiotic. i turn it off when i'm using other people's computers, just to do them a favor

river wolf, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

no, no, no. i've found that it's very useful if you keep your tags really straight.
i know that most people don't though, at least as much as i do, and that i'm a freak.
anyway, i thought this would be a fun idea for a thread. i'm still curious to see all of your itunes windows. i'd probably rather see these than desktops.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

The thing I don't like about genre tagging, and correct me if i'm wrong, but you only get one choice. It's either "rock" or "african rock" but never "african" AND "rock"

if you could aggregate tags like on a blog or whatever, yes, i'd be inclined to pay more attention to genre tagging. but it's totally pointless to come up with only one descriptor for a piece of music and expect that to be both specific enough to say anything about the music and also generic enough to make it a useful aggregating tool.

Billy Pilgrim, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh, well yeah, it's difficult. i change things now and then. but, i also keep things grouped together. alternative/indie rock - dream pop & shoegaze - post-punk + new wave - power pop & pop underground - post-hardcore & emo.
probably a bunch more like that.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

like, yeah, the smiths are a hard one. i had them as indie pop for a long time, then jangle pop, now they're post-punk + new wave, for now. i also have "(unsure)" as a genre, too. it really isn't that hard for most artists, really though. i think it's worth it.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

I use star ratings, although I don't really know why. I guess just because it works well as an attention-grabbing visual cue? things I love get 5 stars, things that sound interesting on first listen but will require additional listens at a later time to pass judgement on get 3 stars, things that I don't particularly enjoy but which contain interesting sounds that could be useful for sampling purposes get 1 star.

bernard snowy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

it might be easier/faster for you to just have three separate playlists to just throw the songs into when they get your attention for whatever purpose.

andi, Thursday, 21 June 2007 23:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

I use genre all the time. It's handy for playlisting.

Never use stars though.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 21 June 2007 23:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

blunt, Friday, 22 June 2007 00:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

uh apologies if this works out badly:

31g, Friday, 22 June 2007 01:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

The thing I don't like about genre tagging, and correct me if i'm wrong, but you only get one choice. It's either "rock" or "african rock" but never "african" AND "rock"

this is true. I don't use itunes but I don't know of any media player that does this and with all the complicated worthless shit they throw in most of them you'd think they'd have gotten around to this feature.

tremendoid, Friday, 22 June 2007 01:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's a question: do you encode mixes as one long track with the "join tracks" option or do you split it up? I'm considering re-ripping all my mix albums using the latter method now that I've replaced my broken ipod (whose hard drive failed less than a week after the warranty expired) with a newer model capable of "gapless" playback, especially since I'm concerned about the effect huge files have on the player's battery life. How do you do lot do it?

Telephone thing, Friday, 22 June 2007 01:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

31g's post:

Tape Store, Friday, 22 June 2007 02:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hit Party Shuffle and it came up with this.

That's one awful party.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 22 June 2007 03:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hurting 2, Friday, 22 June 2007 03:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

I never use stars, but am super anal about tagging all albums with a genre tag when I rip them. I have my own internally consistent, though admittedly somewhat arbitrary, system that works pretty well for me.

Also, the "part of a compilation" checkbox is essential for things that actually are compilations.

joygoat, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

At the very least, genre tags to distinguish between "suitable for background music" and "not suitable" are handy.

dlp9001, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Jazzbo, Friday, 22 June 2007 23:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

leigh, Saturday, 23 June 2007 15:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 23 June 2007 16:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Heh, I didn't even notice that both versions of "Brown Eyes" were on there. How's that for conceptual continuity?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 23 June 2007 16:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

Where the mothafuckin' cheese go at? I DON' KNOW

Telephone thing, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

you anti-genre-tag folks know you can customize the bejabbers outta that shit, right?

J0hn D., Saturday, 23 June 2007 22:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

um, "bejabbers," J0hn?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 23 June 2007 22:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Are those under View Options, or do ya have to go into Advanced Preferences?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

more like radvanced preferences

elan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Cheers, Andi, I'd never noticed that Folders option under Playlists!

mitya, Sunday, 24 June 2007 07:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:22 (11 months ago) Permalink

it's actually fairly well organized

starfish succulents (unregistered), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 23:08 (10 months ago) Permalink

a photo, not a screenshot:

bajafreshnu orchestra (get bent), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:13 (10 months ago) Permalink


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