neil young

oh shit decade

― strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

― strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

― bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

I voted Time Fades Away

― Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

― Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

― StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

― StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

― kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

― kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

― Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

― Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

― Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

I got to get away from this day to day running around

― calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

TRANS FTW!

― circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

― SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Dead Man is actually really really good.

― MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

― Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

― talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

no "none of the above"????

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

― Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

― 69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

― Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

― Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

DIVORCEE

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

a 3-way tie this time then.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Fair result.

― Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

― Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

c'est vrai

― blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

― Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

― Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

― Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

― Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

― Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

― Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

― Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

― alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

― alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

weird

― moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

― Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, that's Manchester '73. I've only ever heard the Manchester and London shows from that tour.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

Oh wait - I have the Toronto show too.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

Just curious--where did he play Toronto in '73? Was it Massey Hall or somewhere bigger?

― clemenza, Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

my info says Maple Leaf Gardens. May not be correct.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

yeah he played there on the time fades away tour, i think, not on the later tonight's the night tour. don't think i've heard the liverpool show, just the manchester and london gigs.

― tylerw, Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:51 (6 months ago) Permalink

and there's a queens college tonight's the night show that would be amazing if the sound quality wasn't awful.

― tylerw, Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:53 (6 months ago) Permalink

― clemenza, Thursday, 22 November 2012 22:32 (5 months ago) Permalink

aw, nice clip. also, insaaaaane model railroad setup. don't know if i've ever actually seen it before.
on the less warm n fuzzy side

the 70s!

― tylerw, Friday, 23 November 2012 04:12 (5 months ago) Permalink

Love that clip with Neil and his son and the trains. Very cool

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 23 November 2012 04:35 (5 months ago) Permalink

They are communicating on a different plane, not by the means you or I might use. I have some friends with kids who have disabilities, and even though it may be a challenge, they would not change a thing.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 23 November 2012 04:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

aw, nice clip. also, insaaaaane model railroad setup. don't know if i've ever actually seen it before.

I think that's actually bigger than the model train set at the Chicago Museum of Science & Industry (which is massive).

― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 November 2012 05:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

Always weird to see Neil not playing Old Black

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 23 November 2012 06:57 (5 months ago) Permalink

― how's life, Friday, 23 November 2012 11:04 (5 months ago) Permalink

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 November 2012 14:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

Believe the Gretsch precedes Old Black by several years.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 November 2012 14:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, he had that back in the Buffalo Springfield days, right? What an awesome-looking guitar that is. Like the pristine flipside to grizzled, battered Old Black.

― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:03 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess I meant it's weird seeing Neil with a Fender.

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 23 November 2012 19:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

That's for sure. Sort of like seeing Springsteen with anything but a Fender.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 November 2012 22:09 (5 months ago) Permalink

The strat pic is the weirdest to me. He looks genuinely unhappy to be holding it.

― how's life, Friday, 23 November 2012 22:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

On the other hand, I really love jimmy page's brief telecaster phase

― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:59 (5 months ago) Permalink

Not that brief! First two albums and bits of the rest ("Stairway to Heaven" solo, etc.). I think he got the Tele from ... Jeff Beck? I believe Beck was playing a Tele around that time, too, but of course embraced the Strat. Page had his own brief Strat phase at the end. Did Neil play a Strat c. the Shocking Pinks?

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 November 2012 01:15 (5 months ago) Permalink

Page looks cool in any guitar, but the strat is hard to pull off

― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 November 2012 01:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

I'm glad he had it but Page with a Tele seems so odd. Not to indulge in guitar cliches but it's hard to think of Led Zep as a Tele band at all - maybe tele deluxe/custom? Keith rocked that one. This is basically an image thing tbh.

― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 24 November 2012 03:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, but Page's Tele was painted all psychedelic.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 November 2012 05:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 November 2012 05:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

Saw Neil Young & Crazy Horse last night in Philly. Holy shit. If he is playing anywhere near you on this tour, GO. I haven't been listening to the boots, so I don't know how this compares to the other dates from this year, but really, unless you're not down with monolithic noise jams, this is more than worth the ticket price. A brief (3-song) acoustic interlude in the middle, but other than that, pretty much relentless heaviness for 2 1/2 hours.

― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Friday, 30 November 2012 14:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:07 (5 months ago) Permalink

Wow, I think I found a copy of the elusive "Southern California Brings Me Down:"

hxxps://www.box.com/shared/48xvyh8xva

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:12 (5 months ago) Permalink

Southern California Brings Me Down

I need someone to live with me
To keep my bed warm
And keep my shorts clean
I need a maid to give for free
And sew patches on my jeans

I dreamed I saw my cowgirl housewife
I was drivin' in my pickup through L.A.
I wanna love you while I can, babe
Before I become an old man

Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down

Ooh, I need some place to go
Oh, north Ontario
It's safer than Alabama
It's safer than Ohio, ohh...

Gonna go home now
Where I can grow old
With the cowgirl of my dreams
I'm gonna stay stay stoned now
Just stare out my basement window and scream
Ahhhh.....

Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down

Oooh, ooh, gotta get away now
Southern California brings me down
Ooh, ooh, babe
Ooh, gotta get away...

Topanga Canyon freaks, you won't see around no more

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:14 (5 months ago) Permalink

haha, this is pretty good.

― tylerw, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:17 (5 months ago) Permalink

ha never heard of that, pretty good, they get a lot of neil songwriting tics down pat

― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

i wonder who the musicians are...?

― tylerw, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:39 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah i was gonna say the band & esp the guitar playing is pretty awesome

― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

Thank you, Tony Scheuren for NOT tossing a "wine/whine" pun into this thing.
His song from the 70's National Lampoon "Goodbye Pop" lp skewers the ego behind Neil Young's notion of "A Man Needs a Maid."
It references "After the Goldrush" (with the "patches on my jeans" back cover) and loads up on recognition humor ("Neil" longs to live in "North Ontario. It's safer than Alabama. It's safer than Ohio"). If you don't know "Old Man" or "Cowgirl in the Sand" some lines here won't raise a smile.

Mr. Young had a bit of a crooked grin through segments of the Demme concert film "Heart of Gold," but it's doubtful he was all that amused when this parody came out. What sacrilege, to take a poke at a sensitive singer-songwriter, and even do an elbow in the musical rib over CSN&Y's anthem about four dead students at Kent State.
Scheuren is not just "a comic." He began his career as a musician, and at 19 sang lead vocals with "Chamaeleon Church," a group that did release an album on MGM in 1968. He also toured with Ultimate Spinach and is on "Ultimate Spinch III." For most, his most vivid work remains with the Lampoon, both their discs and radio show.
And remember, unless you live in some still hippie-esque canyon, or behind the gates of a Beverly Hills or Malibu home, you'll agree with the faux Neil here, that...
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BRINGS ME DOWN Si, muchachos, es verdad.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:41 (5 months ago) Permalink

Mr. Young had a bit of a crooked grin through segments of the Demme concert film "Heart of Gold," but it's doubtful he was all that amused when this parody came out.
i dunno, he would probably think it was funny. he likes jimmy fallon's impression.

― tylerw, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:45 (5 months ago) Permalink

But would '70s Neil Young think it was funny?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:45 (5 months ago) Permalink

he would've wept sensitive singer-songwriter tears

― tylerw, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

wau at this

― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

ULTIMATE SPINACH!

― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

Never knew this was online: Greil Marcus's original review of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere for Good Times, August 1969:

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/The%20San%20Francisco%20Express%20Times%20aka%20Good%20Times.htm

Really, it's more of a career overview plus a review of "Cowgirl in the Sand."

― clemenza, Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:20 (5 months ago) Permalink

cool find!

The only word I have for Stills’ music is “perfect.”

hmmm...wait a couple years their Greil

― Z S, Saturday, 1 December 2012 16:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

there

sigh

*imperfect*

― Z S, Saturday, 1 December 2012 16:54 (5 months ago) Permalink

Man, I checked out a copy of CSN's greatest hits after reading Shakey. It's pretty astounding to me that they were where Young went to earn his money, just in terms of them being an enormous going concern during the late 60s/early 70s. I couldn't make it through a song without rolling my eyes.

― how's life, Saturday, 1 December 2012 17:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah, i'm pretty much with you. every once in a while i go back through CSN (w/ or w/out Y) and try to gain some new appreciation, but it's a struggle. they're not bad or anything but neil young is so, so much better that it's a constant question of "why don't i just divide both sides of this equation by CSN so i can just be left with Y?"

― Z S, Saturday, 1 December 2012 17:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

Agree that "the American Beatles" and all that was way overdone--Deja Vu was a bigger story than Loaded in 1970, which now seems silly--but I really think they had a bunch of good to great songs beyond just Neil's on their first two studio albums.

― clemenza, Saturday, 1 December 2012 17:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

Greil Marcus' Woodstock wrapup from RS #42, 9/20/69 on CSNY:

"Visually they are one of the most exciting bands I have ever seen."

So there's that.

― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 1 December 2012 17:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

^^Neil wore a great ruffled shirt at that show. Probably contributed to the cited visual excitement.

...along w/Stills' poncho.

― Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 December 2012 06:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

show was awesome last night. i know they could get goofy, but shit got REAL goofy during "fuckin up." does neil mime a fart (with appropriate guitar sound) very often?

― da croupier, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

hahahahaha i've never seen that

― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

neil whispering "poncho.....poncho.....poncho" while poncho does blues loverman shit. why couldn't there be more of that on Psychedelic Pill instead of excerpts from his biography?

that said the psychedelic pill stuff sounded pretty strong live, even if the lyrics weren't his finest

― da croupier, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:59 (5 months ago) Permalink