Kanye West (and Daft Punk too) "Stronger"

oh good another song kanye can ruin for me

RIP "Move On Up" 1970-2005

Even "Touch the Sky" can't ruin the musical perfection that is "Move On Up." It just can't be done.

This might be a no-doy, but does he sample "harder, better, faster stronger"?

Just wonderin if it was the vocoder or any elements of the original track "Cola Bottle Baby." Not trying to sound like snob, honest.

didn't, uh, slum village do this already?

and pharrell too

it's just the vocoder btw, no "cola bottle baby" present. he adds some synth. i'm not kidding, it sounds just like the slum village remix + some drums ripped from "grindin"

so a modern classic then

i think it's more about the WHOA factor than anything

they put jam and peanut butter together in one jar??

WHOA.

I think this is terrible. I know the original too well and I'm just thinking the whole time, "just rap over the whole original, or don't rap at all".

cola bottle baby >>>> vocoder bits

haven't heard it yet but I gotta agree the concept sounds pretty played

all the stuff vahid mentioned + Busta already did a whole DP remake with "Touch It"

there's a sendspace link inside this EVIL EVIL THREAD from an EVIL EVIL BOARD

http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=235008430&view=getnewpost

the most interesting part of this song is trying to figure out when he says "i'll do anything for anything for a blonde dyke / and she'll do anything for the limelight / and we'll do anything when the time's right" if he's talking about an actual celebrity or just a figment of his imagination

i also like the line "since prince was on appollonia / since OJ had isotoners / don't act like i never told you"

he;s looking quite robotic himself these days

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/news/060821/kaye_west.jpg

more jude law in AI than ralf and florian though ...

Just another case of a human stealing robot-American music and bastardizing/popularizing it.

listening to the mixtape intro (full sample of DP track this time) i want to punch dude and break jaw again "yes, the polo is versace if you were wondering". no i wasn't.

Sorry, Franco-Robot!!!

k, stronger is pretty rad

k, now he's either sampling radiohead or coldplay or travis or something that sounds like those dudes

yeah, balls to this.

(do still wanna hear t-pain on it tho)

xpost

Why is exposing something of such high quality (HBFS) to the masses a bad thing? Regardless of whether DP has been sampled before in hip hop, I say more sampling of Daft Punk into hip hop is always a good thing. The track could've expanded on the sample more but it ain't exactly a terrible effort by Kanye. I was expecting way worse.

He has Iron Giant jaws in that photo.

http://www.hhv.de/images/cover6/91597_1.jpg

http://www.hhv.de/images/cover6/91597.jpg

forgot how sexy this pic disc was!! is it worth any these days

i've heard really great things abou that song, but i don't think i've heard it. leo?

i think i hate kanye.

whoa, sing-rapping over peter, bjorn and john. i really do want to hate him, but there's a lot of good shit on this mixtape. maybe if i ignore what he says.

i only recently noticed the chorus hook on Nine Inch Nails 'Only' sounds like a lift from 'Cola Bottle Baby' (at 00:41).

does it suck to hate fun so much

god this mixtape is fucking painful

i'm just so underwhelmed by what he does with the songs. like on 'young folks' i was expecting a total kanye-style 'AND WE DONT CARE ABOUT EM YOUNG FOLKS' but instead yiiiikes

Wow, I am covetous of that picture disc.

I'm pretty sure i hate this, but I CAN'T BE CERTAIN YET do i HAVE to listen to this more?

it's rubbish

I really wanted to like this. I hate it.

This shit sucks. Ban Kanye.

I miss Kanye posting.

the vocoder is just fucking distracting

Aw I wanted to like this too but I don't, same goes for the other single and most of the mixtape. Kanye is still a top notch celebrity tho

lol @ uniform negative reaction

i like this deej, but i have shitty taste in music

God, even I already sampled HBFS in a hip-hop track. SOOOO behind his time. And "Young Folks" is even worse...He better give up on sing-rapping.

don't like this. talk about writing around the sample. meh.

Yep, he ruined the song. This is depressing.

I really wanted to love this. And I do.

throw some ds on that bitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw

That improved my life.

Hahaha omg that was kind of awesomely clever.

basically HBFS is the national anthem of people doing awesome stuff on the internet

por ejemplo

HBFS starts around 4:20

Pompous Mimes On Speed

don't hate

appreciate

i imagine pretty soon we'll hear daft punk in an ice skating routine

those of us who watch ice skating, that is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z8CB0JkuTA

I think Stronger is amazing, fuck all yall haters!!!!

I like it but I like all kinds of bullshit

I wanted to like this.

It's grown on me. I think the video may have helped.

Yeah it was the video

The video is definitely what made it for me, the ridiculous sunglasses and Akira quotes and so on. Same with the Zach Galifilifinikilakolus video for the other single, come to think of it; neither track is particularly strong but damn if his video directors aren't earning their paychecks.

this song still sucks

I didn't hate it, but something just sounded wrong about it to me...too slow, or something.

I really like the last 30 seconds. I wish the rest was that good.

DOES ANYBODY MAKE REAL SHIT ANYMORE?

The one thing that bugs me is the Klondike/blonde dyke line...you can just see Kanye coming up with the Klondike line, and searching in vain for something that rhymes with it.

"uh, troglodyte...third reich...tandem bike...okay, blonde dyke, I'll fit that one in somehow."

He is completely forgiven though because the Apollonia line is sheer brilliance.

So tragic. Listening to College Dropout now is tear-inducing nostalgia.

That comes out on Tuesday, right?

I really like the last 30 seconds. I wish the rest was that good.

^^^^

That comes out on Tuesday, right?

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, August 4, 2007 11:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

unless you're talking about the single, but even that doesn't come out 'til the 21st

I was making an oblique joke about how these days we seem to go from hype to leak to backlash/disillusionment to nostalgia really quickly these days.

i really cant wait until this thread is unearthed 30 years from now when everyone realizes how good this is and you all apologize to me for being so rong

xpost I thought maybe it was an oblique joke about how all albums come out on tuesdays

I was making an oblique FAILED joke about how these days we seem to go from hype to leak to backlash/disillusionment to nostalgia really quickly these days.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 August 2007 07:03

"stronger" vs. "ayo technology" for hip-hop single of the year.

I didn't hate it, but something just sounded wrong about it to me...too slow, or something.

That's funny, because the dance station I listen to plays a sped up version of it that I think is terrible.

I get the feeling that Kanye knows this isn't his strongest stuff. What musically says above is one indication. That this is all over the place thematically is another. I have no idea what this song's point is.

The worst part for me, though, is the line, "So go ahead go nuts go ape shit." Bravado is nothing new, but this a step too far - this makes the listener self-conscious. I'll go ape shit when I damn well feel like it, thanks.

LOL @ this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/80-disco-punk-electro-KANYE-WEST-STRONGER-sunglasses_W0QQitemZ270149937933QQihZ017QQcategoryZ48559QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

On July 3, 2007, West told Zane Lowe on BBC Radio 1 that although he believes "Stronger" is "a great song", it does not compare to the Daft Punk original.[2]

On July 3, 2007, West told Zane Lowe on BBC Radio 1 that although he believes "Stronger" is "a great song", it does not compare to the Daft Punk original.[2]

-- The Reverend, Sunday, 5 August 2007 23:28 (19 minutes ago)

Welcome to the party, Kanye, better late than never! in other breaking news, the Allies win World War II. /sarcasm

the track "Champion" from Graduation will sample Steely Dan's "Kid Charlemagne"...

http://www.zshare.net/audio/3191235282d37d/

Wow, that "Daft Hands" video is really great!

it just hit me today that this song sucks in the exact same way as "Come With Me"

^^^^^

haha I may be the only person on earth, but I actually like "Come With Me". I'm completely predisposed to that type of megalomaniacal event song.

Hahah, I also like "Come With Me" and now suspect my gradual begrudging appreciation of "Stronger" is undergirded by that same force. Apparently it's just a cycle: every ten years, hip hop's reigning producer/performer guy must sample a beloved track (with pretenses of collaborating with the original artist on an actual new recording) and inflate it to ludicrous proportions of melodrama with no actual narrative. The fans of the original track must cry out in rage but the public makes its choice.

(Actually, how successful was "Come With Me"? Surely "Stronger" was a bigger hit by an order of magnitude...)

Big difference, I can't really imagine dancing to "Come With Me" or hearing it in any context other than alt-rock radio.

I like that one line where he's like "Try and trap me - bad rap." I knew a guy in high school that was like "See?! He knows the song sucks, he even admits it! (mimes Puffy shaking his head in shame) "Bad rap."

Another great line: "I cosigned it!"