TS: Lily Allen vs. Cheryl Tweedy

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From Ms. Allen's blog:

"Hi guys , I'm sorry if I worried anyone with the blog I wrote yesterday . I was feeling pretty sorry for myself , I've been reading all your comments and they have made me realise there is more to life than being thin ! So thank you . I think I was just having a hard time last week . After reading cheryl tweedys comments branding me a "chick with a dick". I was feeling pretty low and aswell as that, some of you might know I launched my clothing line for new look last tuesday , and seeing my picture in so many newspapers next to kate moss' , made me feel grotesque momentarily . I know its a silly way to feel and I am incredibly proud of myself and my achievements over the past year, there are so many good things about my life . I really am incredibly lucky . I guess it shows how much of an effect the media can have on us young ladies . As for the amy winehouse bit , someone sent me a link to a picture blog where there were some paparazzi shots of my brother and I , and there were hundreds of comments from mean sad people , saying I was a fat ugly bitch and how much better amy is than I . Usually I ignore these things , but in my heightened emotional state I let them get the better of me . My mum has come out here to keep me company and I feel much better now , I sha'nt be getting any surgery , instead I will be eating lots of bread and pasta and thinking about what to write about for the next album . I really am touched and was quite surprised at the reaction the blog received and it definitely has restored my faith in humanity .

I know I've said bad things about people in the past , though the majority of them have been blown wayyyy out of proportion , but this i mean
Cheryl if you're reading this , I may not be as pretty as you but at least I write and SING my own songs without the aid of autotune . I must say taking your clothes off , doing sexy dancing and marrying a rich footballer must be very gratifying , your mother must be so proud , stupid bitch ."

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=36707169&blogID=264564518&MyToken=1f592010-d4b5-465b-936a-21a8e4c15bfe

This interests me even more than Timbaland vs. Scott Storch

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 18 May 2007 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but didn't cheryl tweedy only respond to lily allen saying something stupid about her?

Surmounter, Friday, 18 May 2007 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

Lily (who I like btw) is constantly slagging off other celebs, and when Cheryl slags HER off (in retaliation for Lily's nasty comments about Nicola and GA IIRC, and why do I know this?) she's throwing herself a pity party? Can you imagine one of the Gallagher boys posting to their MySpace in 1995? "Damon Albarn said something mean about me :-( It made me sad :-( Why do celebrities always say mean things about each other? Damon is such a cocksucker I hope he gets AIDS and dies ;-)". Lily is in love with Cheryl...she even wrote a song called 'Cheryl Tweedy' about how ugly and boring Lily feels she is. Needless to say it's a very destructive relationship.

musically, Friday, 18 May 2007 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

yea lily's totally asking for it. it's also somewhat self-obsessive. it's like, i don't need that much of your baggage in the picture, all the time.

Surmounter, Friday, 18 May 2007 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

the fact that cheryl was sticking up not for herself but for her husband and bandmates makes Lily look even worse.

I don't mind bitchiness from my popstars, but Lily is so bad at it!

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 18 May 2007 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

bitchiness shouldn't stink of bitterness, dahlin

Surmounter, Friday, 18 May 2007 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

FYI I'm not highlighting Noel & Co. as great examples of human behavior, just pointing out the consequences of top-down celeb-to-fan communication minus the typical fourth estate intermediary coordinated by new media entities such as MySpace in these situations. Which is now officially my master thesis subject!

musically, Friday, 18 May 2007 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-03/24/xinsrc_282030324140814004951.jpg

cute

Surmounter, Friday, 18 May 2007 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

Lily is such an asshole, I love her.

The Brainwasher, Friday, 18 May 2007 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

"FYI I'm not highlighting Noel & Co. as great examples of human behavior"

I would highlight them as a great example of how celebrity feuds should be done. I can't remember if it was Noel or Liam, but the great quote about the comparison of the Beatles-Rolling stones vs. Oasis-Blur dichotomies went something like:

"Yes, only we're the Beatles, and they're fuckin' Herman's Hermits."

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 18 May 2007 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

True, they definitely had a very rock-star approach; attack your rivals with no sense of shame, and don't for a second acknowledge that you're anything less than God's gift to the human race. The Oasis/Blur thing was more entertaining because it was so ludicrous and dramatic, with genuine chart tension to back it up. Lily's rants and disses come up a bit empty because there's nothing at stake and no score to settle. And the complete hypocrisy of it makes Lily look like the idiot, because:

-Cheryl and Girls Aloud had always been really complimentary and positive about Lily.

-The whole thing started because Lily insulted Cheryl, Cheryl's husband, Sarah from GA, and called Nicola from GA ugly (which apparently isn't nice).

-Nothing Lily is taking offense to is above and beyond anything she's said about others.

Well, I've officially given this a lot more thought than Lily has. But I do give her props for updating her own MySpace, when most of the ones for major acts are merely placeholders and all the blog entries are press releases.

musically, Friday, 18 May 2007 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

its all good publicity for all involved

696, Friday, 18 May 2007 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

Not as good as Cheryl Cole vs Marcello Carlin was.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 18 May 2007 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

deciding which band is hermans hermits is doing my brain in.

Frogman Henry, Friday, 18 May 2007 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think he meant in the "I'm 'Enery The Eighth I Am" sense.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 18 May 2007 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not sure blur or oasis either have a song quite as wonderful as "No Milk Today" in their back catalouges.

acrobat, Friday, 18 May 2007 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

deciding which is the dog faced hermans is doing my BRANE in

Alan, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

this is silly. Gordon Ramsay said "a chick with a dick?" and Tweedy said in reply "a chick with a dick".

Ronan, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

Can you imagine one of the Gallagher boys posting to their MySpace in 1995? "Damon Albarn said something mean about me :-( It made me sad :-( Why do celebrities always say mean things about each other? Damon is such a cocksucker I hope he gets AIDS and dies ;-)".

I can actually totally imagine this.

Lily is pretty terrible at celeb bitchiness, it's true, but I kind of like her @ the moment, and I have no idea who cheryl tweedy even is, so I'm on Lily's side.

Pashmina, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

I can't make a decision on this until MTV2 news asks Beth Ditto what she thinks.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

i feel a lot more kindly towards lily allen these days but i pick the tweed

lex pretend, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

here is a pic of cheryl tweedy pashmina

http://cimg.163.com/sport/0507/11/zhu31.jpg

696, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

Lily Allen wrote a song "Cheryl Tweedie" about how she wishes she looked like CT. As an explanation, she said that the media pushes this thing about how girls are expected to want to look like her, but don't in reality. Confusing, yes. But Gordon read it to CT as being a dis. And Cheryl mumbled something then realised she'd forgotten she wasn't in a private restaurant.

Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's a footballer with an head wound, Gareth.

Here is some music from 1929, G:

http://www.nicklucas.com/audio/filmography/PaintingtheClouds-Reel1Excerpt-GDOBWB-1929.mp3

Pashmina, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

i thought that tweedy's comment was before the gordon ramsay conversation which was about her previous comment?

Alan, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

also, just for ref http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858611710

Alan, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

That's a footballer with an head wound, Gareth.

lol

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

shit

696, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

thats a version of painting the clouds with sunshine? is it the jack hylton version or another (cant play till i get home)

696, Friday, 18 May 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's Nick Lucas's version from "Gold Diggers of Broadway". It's great! there's a couple of other numbers from the film here:

http://www.nicklucas.com/goldDiggers-Broadway.html

Start a thread about '20's/'30's music, Gareth!

Pashmina, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

ok!

http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=25543

696, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

yr an odd one.

Pashmina, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

you see? this always happens.

696, Friday, 18 May 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Eh?

Pashmina, Friday, 18 May 2007 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to come up with a thread for general pop music 1910-1939, but couldn't manage to express what I wanted to say

Pashmina, Friday, 18 May 2007 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Lily on The Daily Ten making fun of Fergie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHZg2KVJtR4

ROFL. She's awesome.

The Brainwasher, Friday, 18 May 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Lily arrested for attacking papparazzi.

RAWWWWWWK.

http://thesuperficial.com/2007/06/29/lily-allen-attacks.jpg

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 29 June 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

kind of think we shd have a cheryl deathwatch thread

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1293283/Cheryl-Cole-fluid-lungs-reveals-Derek-Hough.html

D, dilly, dillies, dill, d-bombs (history mayne), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah but... it's the Mail. Buried in the middle of that article:

Dr Wiselka added that while Mrs Cole has probably discovered the illness in time and so avoided damage to her kidney and liver. However, he said it is unlikely she will be able to return to work for a number of weeks

Doesn't sound like someone at death's door.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

sometime in the past 1-2 years there was a subtle shift whereby lily allen became the correct answer to this thread's question

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

Lily Allen is still obnoxious and appalling. Still Cheryl. Music doesn't really come into it.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

Doesn't really help that Lily has honestly the worst speaking voice I have ever heard. Who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to let her try her hand as a TV presenter?

Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

I like lily allen...Cheryl is just a monster.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:11 (fifteen years ago)

Don't care about personae really, but I like Cheryl's album a lot whereas there's about 2 Lily Allen songs I like.

ain't too proud to blog (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:17 (fifteen years ago)

cheryl is imo 'less completely repellent', persona-wise, than lily allen. can take or leave cheryl really, but lily is actively horrible, and hasn't appeared on a single listenable record. cheryl can't sing so far as i can tell, and im not interested in hearing her solo work, but she was in girls aloud and that still counts for something. also cheryl is more attractive, tho ppl overdo this. don't like expensively educated people who pretend to be/are thick, seems kind of like a waste.

D, dilly, dillies, dill, d-bombs (history mayne), Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:22 (fifteen years ago)

I'm reminded of Cheryl's toilet attendant incident.

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/tweedy.-i-hit-attendant.-but-am-no-racist

Duke, Saturday, 10 July 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

I know who cheryl tweedy is now :-/ she must have been on min 3/4 of celeb mag covers over the last year or so.

dead flower :( (Pashmina), Saturday, 10 July 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

I wish we'd see this mug that frequently instead

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4779912504_4826e9683c_m.jpg

abcfsk, Saturday, 10 July 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ So fucking indie.

Matt DC, Saturday, 10 July 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

(who is that btw?)

ain't too proud to blog (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 July 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Fellow (former?) Girls Aloud member Nicola.

abcfsk, Saturday, 10 July 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Ah right, thought it was but she looks different.

ain't too proud to blog (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 July 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

nine months pass...

A view on the once and future Tweedy from America:

Cowell tells me that in addition to himself and Antonio “L.A.” Reid, the chairman of Island Def Jam Music Group who resigned to join The X Factor panel on Fox (and about whom Simon said “was my No. 1 choice to sit alongside me on the show"), he has made up his mind to bring back Paula Abdul beside him and to add a Brit singer convicted of assault who's unknown to American audiences, Cheryl Cole. Of course, Cowell was once an unknown here, too. I understand from Cowell that negotiations for Abdul's deal hasn't even started and that Cole's deal isn't quite done yet. And of course, he could change his mind.

But an insider tells me about Cole that "she's pretty much a shoo-in for the show" and will be announced as a judge within less than a week. When I asked Simon about "this Cole woman" who began judging on the 5th season of Cowell's British version of The X Factor which is now in its 8th season, he laughed at my description of her. I opined about how hard it is for UK personalities to click with U.S. audiences. Though she has her own widely imitated catchphrase there telling wannabe contestants they are “really, really luv-erly” in her incomprehensible Newcastle accent and has become a UK tabloid obsession, over here she'll just be another nobody. (As Jennifer Lopez asked recently, “She is a singer, right?”) But Cowell responded: "I never think about it as an American or British audience. I genuinely don’t. I think that’s what's happened on a lot of these shows now is it's almost like you’ve got to hire well known celebrities to be a judge. And with Cheryl, when I hired her initially, I'd only met her literally once when I offered her the job on (British) X Factor. I thought she was bright, cute, knew what she was talking about, ambitious. And you meet someone special a few times in your life.. And this girl is special. She's just got a great ability to communicate. Shes a great judge. She's smart. It's just a hunch. If people take to her like the British public did, I think she's going to do really well in America. And Fox was desperate to hire her."

"Really?" I asked. "I heard there was pushback from Fox."

"No, absolute opposite," Cowell claimed. "Mike Darnell and Peter Rice will tell you they wanted her all the time, I showed a tape to Mike Darnell two years ago of a clip I'd shot in England of Cheryl and he said there and then, 'I'd hire her now for Idol.' They absolutely fell in love with her. In a way, the deal, it was almost conditional on Cheryl having the gig. They were desperate for her."

...

As for Cole, a few weeks ago both Reid and Cowell let slip that she would definitely be a U.S. judge, though they later retracted their statements. Surely none of the contestants auditioning for The X Factor producers in LA (over 18,000), Miami (12,000), NY (20,000), Seattle (over 5000) and in audition booths placed in various regional markets for those who can't make it to the audition cities, have a clue about Cole. She first became famous after winning Popstars the Rivals, a TV forerunner to The X Factor. Then called Cheryl Tweedy, her first single with her girl group Girls Aloud went to No. 1. What set Girls Aloud apart from other robotic R&B girl bands was their 1960s sound masterminded by Cowell’s music producer Brian Higgins. Cheryl married soccer star Ashley Cole in 2006 and seemed set to be the next celebrity footballer's wife after Victoria Beckham. Now known as Cheryl Cole, her solo career took off after she teamed up with will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas, who exec produced her smash hit Fight For This Love.

But the working class-rooted Cole also has a rough history: she punched a washroom attendant in the face after they got into a fight. Cheryl was convicted of assault and ordered to do community service. In fact, Cole’s criminal record was a worry because the U.S. authorities usually refuse entry visas to those with a criminal past. This would have derailed Cole’s U.S. X Factor chances. At first villified, Cole saw the pendulum of public opinion swing back after her husband's adultery was exposed by the British tabloid press. Cole is a special obsession of the News of the World owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Fox where Cole will appear.

First thing in the comments:

I just googled this Cole person. I don’t see any tattoos.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 April 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Cheryl Cole has come out fighting Chris Brown’s corner after publicly telling everyone they should move on from his assault on Rihanna.

Speaking to In:Demand with Alex James, the pop vixen commended Rihanna for forgiving Brown over the infamous beating her gave her back in 2009: "I think it's really kind of her actually. She's come out and publicly forgiven him really,” the popstar said.

"I think it's about time we all did if I'm completely honest, if you want my opinion."

Serov devochka s persikami (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:49 (fourteen years ago)


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