Best Spacemen 3 Album (POLL Ends 4th May)

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Best Spacemen 3 Album then? Have at it!
And I'm including live albums..

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Perfect Prescription 27
Playing With Fire 15
Recurring 9
Sound Of Confusion 8
Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To 8
I prefer Spiritualized!5
I Don't Like Spacemen 3 and I will FEAR THE WRATH of Masonic Boom and Elvis Telecom! 2
Dreamweapon: An Evening of Contemporary Sitar Music [live] 1
Translucent Flashbacks 1
Performance 0
Spacemen Are Go! 0
For All the Fucked Up Children of This World We Give You 0
Live In Europe 89 0


Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

I prefer Spiritualized!


You forgot "I prefer Spectrum"

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Elvis OTM!!!!

Anyway, I don't care if people don't like S3. More for meeee!!!

And I can pick my favourite (best? what is this "best" thing anyway?) quite easily, actually.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can't please anyone.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

(Though if you want to be really picky, you could pick different versions of reissues of which album was your fave! Ha!)

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

And it's mean to make this end while I'm out. :-(

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

I did it so that you could post today before surgery!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

But I won't be able to read who liked what when it ends!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

It will still be here!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Taking Drugs To Make Music To Take Drugs To

Alex in SF, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

That may have the best name, but no way is it their best album.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

How true. What did you vote for Kate?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Playing With Fire has been my favourite since it came out.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

I went with Perfect Prescription.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

I went for Sound Of Confusion. Losing Touch With My Mind rules all.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

for "best" album, it's a toss-up between perfect prescription and playing with fire

my favorite is playing with fire

stephen, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

The Perfect Prescription cassette version w/ OD Catastrophe/Rollercoaster/Feel So Good/Starship on the b-side. If that b-side was an album pick I'd probably go with that.

Edward III, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

i voted for recurring. am i alone?

cw, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

i have been playing dreamweapon a bunch lately.

haitch, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's all about Playing With Fire, though Dreamweapon runs a close second.

novaheat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

I went for the contrarian vote of "Recurring", since I can't vote for the "Perfect Prescription" double-CD reissue.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Forged Prescriptions" is pretty rad, too.

novaheat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was put that up but I thought Kate would say it didn't count or something.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

Edward III OTM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Shame polls can't be edited to add stuff.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 27 April 2007 01:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Would people have really voted for Forged Prescriptions? If so just vote for Perfect Prescription as I would've counted both as one for the poll anyway.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 27 April 2007 09:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah I would have. I definitely prefer it to the "proper" version. Stripping things down so that the album could be more easily reproduced live was a mistake, I think.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

explain this forged prescription, am i to understand it is fancier than the released version?

cw, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

[url=[Removed Illegal Link] review does not reflect how awesome it is but is otherwise accurate[url]

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

um, yeah

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

the alternate version of "Come Down Easy" on "Forged Prescriptions" = teh classick

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hunh. So according to that review, Jason Spaceman wasn't even on that record at all, ha ha ha. Meow.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

hahaha oh wow I didn't even notice that

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

hahahahaha

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Shakey are you doing a best Spiritualized poll then?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure that's a foregone conclusion judging from the spinoff thread, but I suppose we could.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

But with all these threads people talk up some albums but then one no one mentions runs away with it. And the canonical choice doesn't always win either.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

The demo version of Losing Touch with My Mind on Taking Drugs SLAYS the Sound of Confusion one. Taking Drugs is my personal favorite.

Trip Maker, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Do it,Shakey! (and remember for it to finish next friday not tomorrow hehehe)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Perfect Prescription for me.

kaliflwr, Saturday, 28 April 2007 01:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Not Forged Prescriptions?
(in your face shakey!)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 28 April 2007 13:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

I only have (heard) the present continuous albums: Playing, Recurring and Taking. Of those, I think I love Recurring the most. Though the way Taking came to me (through the shuffle function on th'ipod which kept going back to the album. and me checking -what's this- the lcd each time a song came by) nearly convinced me to choose that one...

As for Recurring - I mostly only listen to the first half. C-lassic. Love the slowed down i-wanna-be-your-dog-riff on "when tomorrow hits". And starting a record with such a great sucking-you-in song as "big city" - hmmmmm

willem, Saturday, 28 April 2007 15:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bumped because it fell of page.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Sunday, 29 April 2007 21:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

1st half of recurring is great.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 30 April 2007 08:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kaliflwr!!!! you're not allowed to vote, you're a Loop fan! :-P

Masonic Boom, Monday, 30 April 2007 09:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

So whens the best Loop poll? ;)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

When Kaliflwr comes back and starts posting permanently.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

why no love for the second half of Recurring?!? Hypnotized is great! So is Feel So Sad...

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Recurring makes me sad because it is the sound of my favourite band ever breaking up in front of me, on record.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

I mean, I got it again a few years ago, and when I listened to it, I do love it. But at the time, it was just so mingled with sadness.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

I agree, just switch the names around first.

Also, what's with the words on the cover of Playing with Fire. Revolution, Suicide, Purity, and Love, and... Accuracy?

It's like they had settled on using exactly 5 edgy words, but couldn't come up with a good 5th, so they just tacked it on at the end. I mean, "accuracy", what's that even supposed to mean?

●●●●●●●● (EDB), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 02:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

You have to be accurate when you take a morphine suppository and put it all the way inside...

dlp9001, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 02:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

"I really, really like Perfect Prescription but c'mon guys Playing With Fire is their best record ok?"

Nope.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 03:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, what's with the words on the cover of Playing with Fire. Revolution, Suicide, Purity, and Love, and... Accuracy?

It's like they had settled on using exactly 5 edgy words, but couldn't come up with a good 5th, so they just tacked it on at the end. I mean, "accuracy", what's that even supposed to mean?

Nope. Behold the business card of Trans-Love Productions...

"Revolution" and "Suicide" are PWF song titles leaving "Love" as the last remaining word.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 03:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Elvis, did you work on Dreamweapon too? What's your fave live S3 album?

This object perpetually attempts to sell itself on eBay. (Stevie D), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

I forget if I voted in this poll. For me it's "Sound of Confusion" all the way, although "Forged Prescriptions" would be a close second if it had been included.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Xposts: That doesn't change the fact that accuracy still looks weird among those other words.

●●●●●●●● (EDB), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

It doesn't. It looks freaking great. I used to have a black denim jacket with the 5 words from Playing With Fire painted on the back of it, in a circle. It looked cool as hell.

(oh, shut up, I was, like, 18 when that album came out. Painted denim jackets are amazingly cool when you're that age.)

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

am0n, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

That is leather, not denim.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 16:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

It doesn't. It looks freaking great. I used to have a black denim jacket with the 5 words from Playing With Fire painted on the back of it, in a circle. It looked cool as hell.

WLD WEAR (am 22yo for reference)

This object perpetually attempts to sell itself on eBay. (Stevie D), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

Elvis, did you work on Dreamweapon too? What's your fave live S3 album?

Didn't work on Dreamweapon. I wish there were better quality tapes from 1989 - especially with the short-lived 5 piece lineup.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

It doesn't. It looks freaking great. I used to have a black denim jacket with the 5 words from Playing With Fire painted on the back of it, in a circle. It looked cool as hell.

Best. Jacket. Ever.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Personally, I'd prefer an all-over Recurring patterned one piece outfit myself.

●●●●●●●● (EDB), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Never in a hundred years would I have expected to see a thousand people dancing to "Revolution" http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=62457399 (well, OK it is the Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 07:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't know why BTWS always play *that* one. It's like the *least* danceable Spacemen 3 track ever. But they always do that segue it into the Stooges trick which works really well.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 10:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

A long time ago I signed up to do the Spacemen 3, etc. ballot poll here: ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

Before I dare show my head in that thread again (I'm way way late) I was thinking of making the poll just one big free-for-all: Top 20 albums from Sonic, Jason, Bassman, Will, Rugby, etc. Top 40 tracks. All proven by ILX science.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 07:25 (two years ago) Permalink

yes let's do it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:10 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah a free-for-all will work.

sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:31 (two years ago) Permalink

10 albums & 20 tracks?

A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:38 (two years ago) Permalink

20 is not enough (I say don't place a limit on track ballot numbers, personally)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:39 (two years ago) Permalink

don't really care, but prefer brutally restricted ballots

A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:40 (two years ago) Permalink

let's fight about it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 18:44 (two years ago) Permalink

dronefight grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:00 (two years ago) Permalink

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:02 (two years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

I flip flop between PP and PWF. Both sounded better to me at the time than they do now; in fact there was a time when I would have placed them 1 & 2 in my top ten albums list. I took PWF to record club because something in The Haxan Cloak's Excavation reminded me of Suicide.

http://devonrecordclub.com/2015/09/16/spacemen-3-playing-with-fire-round-83-toms-selection/

yugi ex, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:32 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

this is surprising

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:55 (one month ago) Permalink

There's a thread on the Spiritualized forum which Palmer posted on a couple of weeks ago:

Just been alerted to this thread by one of the ex SP3 band members…..as an ardent supporter of an individual's right to free speech I (Gerald Palmer) wish to make a comment on this piece of “fake news”.

I assume that as a matter of due diligence you fan boys have all fact checked the veracity of your claims? What’s your source?.....a Donald Trump tweet perhaps?......a disgruntled ex-band member making a post on the Spiritualized forum erroneously alleging they get paid ‘zero’ royalties?......which, unsurprisingly, I might add, gets disseminated further, with everyone feeling as though they should add their own unsubstantiated take on the story but hey ho, that’s the internet for you.

As a general rule I ordinarily choose not to air dirty laundry on social media but to quote Mia Wallace, “when you little scamps get together you're worse than a sewing circle”, so whilst writing please allow me to pose a question you may wish to consider; if these releases are purported to be “bootleg” recordings then why has no other label (excepting only Space Age Recordings) pressed or sold these recordings since the expiration of the licenses to Fire Records, RCA / BMG and subsequently Taang! Records in the U.S.A. in the 90’s?

For the record I've been working with the members of Spacemen 3 continually since 1987.These albums are owned and controlled by me for life of copyright and Space Age Recordings has exclusively manufactured, distributed and sold these records on a worldwide basis for approximately the last 20 years. All the ex-members of Spacemen 3 continue to be accounted to and paid artist royalties on a bi-annual basis as they have been for the last 30 years, with the total sum paid out in royalties running into substantial six figure sums.

All claims that these reissues are "bootlegs” and that the band's members are not being paid royalties are both strenuously denied and completely refuted.

I’m also guessing that all of you lurking on the forum here are as passionate about the integrity of the Spacemen 3 name as I am and so will have read the Erik Morse biography on the band?.....if so you’re probably also aware that it was written with extensive help and input from Pete Kember who ok’d it before publication? If so, I suggest that now might be a good time to go back for a re-read if it’s “alternative facts” you’re after; as they say, there’s always two sides to every story.

No further comment.

Gerald Palmer

groovypanda, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:22 (one month ago) Permalink

note upthread is from Spiritualized's official twitter account, as of 5 hrs ago: https://twitter.com/officialSpzd/status/855077875430686720
and the fact that it's signed by both Pierce and Kember is def notable imo

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:25 (one month ago) Permalink

They could have said this a month ago before independent shops paid for their orders

Black Arkestra, Friday, 21 April 2017 00:49 (one month ago) Permalink

I love this band more than almost any other, but the idea that they're fighting over some piddling royalties at this point is just insanely sad. Seriously, how much money are we talking about. Very little, yes. Again, great band, needs to get a job at Starbucks or something.

dlp9001, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Palmer says upthread their royalties are annually 6 figures. I dont make 6 figures a year, do you?

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Eh i might be misreading that maybe its not annual. But still, six figures!

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:14 (one month ago) Permalink

it says total sum in six figures over 30 years.

wmlynch, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Well, yes, but that's besides the point. Do you seriously think that they're selling that many albums a year. We're not stupid here. 100,000/20=5000 albums sold per year, divided among the group, per their legal rights. Nobody is getting super rich here. Do you think that 5000 people bought Spacemen 3 albums last year. I freaking love the band, but I think that's batshit insane.

dlp9001, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:16 (one month ago) Permalink

One of the things I had to come to terms with is that ALL THE BANDS I LOVED IN THE 80S AND 90S MADE ESSENTIALLY NOTHING. Repeat, ESSENTIALLY NOTHING.

dlp9001, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:18 (one month ago) Permalink

One of the things I had to come to terms with is that ALL THE BANDS I LOVED IN THE 80S AND 90S MADE ESSENTIALLY NOTHING. Repeat, ESSENTIALLY NOTHING.

dlp9001, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:19 (one month ago) Permalink

The entire indie rock revolution was essentially people selling 1000 albums to the same 1000 dumbasses (like me). It's sort of crazy, in terms of the cultural impact vs. the financial impact.

dlp9001, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Palmer has Spacemen 3 trademarked all the way out to 2025 so this is going to be a very expensive and long cold war. Don't expect a box set, remasters, etc. anytime soon.
https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00003098575

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 April 2017 19:42 (one month ago) Permalink

I think the only Space Age product I have is the Forged Prescription comp, which has liner notes by Sonic and came out way before these allegations started getting slung around

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 April 2017 19:46 (one month ago) Permalink

compreissue

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 April 2017 19:47 (one month ago) Permalink

ALL THE BANDS I LOVED IN THE 80S AND 90S MADE ESSENTIALLY NOTHING. Repeat, ESSENTIALLY NOTHING.

not sure who you loved but it's probably not accurate to say ALL. Most? Yeah, most indie rock bands didn't make much. I have no idea what S3 sales are/were/are going to be tbh.

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 April 2017 19:48 (one month ago) Permalink

I remember that Jason said to me that he made more money from the Volkswagen ad than any of LAG's sales.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 April 2017 00:14 (one month ago) Permalink

That's not so surprising, considering that Jason blew so much money on recording and packaging for those 90's SPZ albums.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 22 April 2017 10:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Plus placement fees were way higher back then, in the days before indie rock was a music-for-commercials-n-films cottage industry

Οὖτις, Saturday, 22 April 2017 15:04 (one month ago) Permalink

one of the ex-members of the band who illegally authorised the license of a Spacemen 3 recording behind our back (to which the other band members were denied any royalties or advance)

any idea what this was? I did sort of do a double-take when I recently saw/heard some ad that used a song that *sampled* "Big City" but that probably isn't it.

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:07 (one month ago) Permalink

er, not "Big City", "I Love You" from Recurring

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:08 (one month ago) Permalink

maybe this?

https://www.discogs.com/Spacemen-3-Live-At-The-New-Morning-Geneva-Switzerland-18051989/release/8340890

read the second comment and follow the link.

new noise, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:44 (one month ago) Permalink


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