Who is Redshape?

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Anyone know?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's not carl craig

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

huh. assumed it was.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

this is "rex the dog" all over again.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

yes.

dave clarke?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

stirmonster? ned raggett?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

"famous producer" my ass ... it's probably going to turn out to be the alter ego of arne weinberg or something.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yep..surely nobody famous would risk the chance to make so much more money by donning a mask and performing under an alias.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah but the people who get named in these guessing games are invariably famous enough to not need to adopt a secret identity.

if i were dave clarke and i started having trouble selling out venues in the UK and europe i'd just go tour thailand or something instead of demoting myself to tiny clubs in belgium.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's what I meant.

plus if he had this material he could sell ten times more than "Redshape" has so far.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh sorry, i didn't parse that correctly ... watch your misplaced modifiers, fool!!!!

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

laurent garnier?

― creme1, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

didn't someone say that whoever it is had recorded on music man / delsin before releasing stuff as redshape? not that that narrows it down much ... i also heard it was somebody connected w/ the clone shop?

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey maybe its deetron ... he's released under his own name on music man and as starfighterz on delsin ... also he's got that faux-octave-one generic-detroit thing down pat, and he sorta nailed a dreciya-ish vibe on the delsin release, so maybe he's moved on to buttrich-type theatrics for these releases?

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

or maybe it's some extremely commercial trance / filter house dork we've never heard of gone underground.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

is it impossible it's someone new?

― micarl, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, it has been billed as a famous producer in disguise.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

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― good dog, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

anyway, that picture was who it is.

― good dog, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

humorous or serious dog?

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i posted a pic of redshape and a pic of an artist which look eerily similar. that and a couple of other factors give the game away. But thinking about it now, maybe it's not my place to spoil the mystery.

― good dog, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

based on headshape i thought maybe mark broom for a little while but mark's putting work out lately so i guess not.

i wonder if the mask is a cast of the person's head and we could identify them by the womanly lips.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

my money is on ned raggett.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

if it's not ned, deetron seems the most logical guess.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0SBRFwqxM

― creme1, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

not deetron.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 23:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

luke slater?

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

luke has hair right now ... and looks like karl lagerfeld!!

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

luke slater did run through my head, too...

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Great sound quality on those youtube clips.

Out with it good dog.

― matt2, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

New World Aquarium?

― matt2, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

john beltran?

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

carl craig

― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

how could people ever think it's cc?

― micarl, Thursday, 19 April 2007 03:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn the 1st 20 minutes of redshapes resident advisor mix fucking blow away any detroit techno set i've heard ... well ... ever! it's total KMS/CC copyism but it's awesome.

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 04:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

holy shit have any of you heard "dog day"??? i'll have to check those RA podcasts.

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 05:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

sample here (m3u link)

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dog Day is killer! I wrote a little thing about it here.

I've always assumed Redshape was just one of the Delsin/Music Man producers in disguise.

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sebastian+Kramer
= redshape

sorry to spoil it for you guys ^_^

― Коробе́йник , Thursday, 19 April 2007 07:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

pure plastic = mark broom

i was close!!

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've been caning Ultra for a while, but that RA podcast sent me into 'OMG must have everything!' mode. Absolutely storming... that's a live set, right?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

i need to vent about how much i absolutely loathe the word podcast. this is because i'm bitter that i missed loads of probably awesome RA mixes because i didn't know they were, like, just normal mixes, i thought podcasts were something different and lame. i still don't know what a podcast is really, the word is so off-putting.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

...

― Коробе́йник , Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's the word that's lame, Lex.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

his remix of zander vt "then and before" is fast becoming my fav track of the year, epic widescreen sci fi techno that just builds and builds and makes "full clip" appear rather tame in its dramaticisms.

― creme1, Thursday, 19 April 2007 13:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

yep...that is definitely his best work imo. has people convulsing in clubs.

― Ronan, Thursday, 19 April 2007 13:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

IMO this liveset is much better than his recorded work

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Loving the RA mix, does anyone know what tracks at 35mins & 45mis are? Its absolutly changed my perspective on techno!

― antont, Saturday, 12 May 2007 15:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Shaped World and Dog Day are fantastic, by the way.

― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Redshape revealed at last

― blueski, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

thanks for destroying any hope that I was still a part of youth culture, Steve...

"I don't like this DJ Milton record Daddy, it sounds old."

― Display Name, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

quite like Unfinished Symmetry and the other 3 tracks on the myspace at the mo. didn't get into that Zander VT remix first time tho.

― blueski, Friday, 5 October 2007 13:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

good golly gosh the new redshape on podium is on some seriously epic march of the stormtroopers style space techno shit. totally not feeling the len faki on the flip though.

― r1o natsume, Monday, 5 November 2007 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

alright this has got to be DEXTER, no?

― resolved, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

who cares? i cant understand the Redshape hype, his music is so average. how anyone could have assumed it was Carl Craig is really beyond me.

― pipecock, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

hey he's DJing at Cargo tonight from 2-3

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 3 October 2008 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

how anyone could have assumed it was Carl Craig is really beyond me

his music is so average.

well which is it lol

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 3 October 2008 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

The album is ridiculously good.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 10:33 (10 months ago) Permalink

― StanM, Saturday, 7 November 2009 14:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

Agreed, gave it a listen the other day and need to get back to it.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 November 2009 15:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

thank you, ilm

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah i know, it's like an endorsement.
Laurent Garnier: "Always in my bag"
Prins Thomas: "The b-side is the one for me"
Dixon: "A heartbreaking work of staggering genius"
Pipecock: "One would think that you listen to next to no deep house music if you like this"
― Tim F

xxxp

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

I don't believe that was an xpost.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Monday, 9 November 2009 00:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

It was stolen from another thread to put here, because of its continued relevance.

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Monday, 9 November 2009 15:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

(and it was responding to something far upthread, hence, xxxp)

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Monday, 9 November 2009 15:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

The moment when Bound Pt1 suddenly opens up and turns into Pt2 is astonishing. Would love to hear this on a really dirty and dark warehouse dancefloor.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 13 November 2009 16:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

I love how this album hits every mid-90s techno button:

- cheesy 3-D rendered cover art
- a song with "Part 1" AND "Part 2" in its title
- a song whose title references outer space

Not to mention the music, of course..

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 16:51 (9 months ago) Permalink

Anyway I've said it before and I'll say it again now that anyone who in any way, (red)shape or form likes this kind of music really really really needs to hear, and hopefully purchase, Liquidism by Heiko Laux - http://www.discogs.com/Heiko-Laux-Liquidism/release/9972

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 16:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

Thanks for the tip, but I wouldn't have linked the two instinctively - Laux' album sounds a lot closer to the obviously pre-minimalism era techno of Steve Stoll (The Blunted Boy-Wonder) and Darren Price (Under The Flightpath), Dave Clarke (Archive One) than Redshape does. I think I'd rather put Redshape next to LFO and Trentemöller (especially the added live drums). But that's just nitpicking, I guess.

― StanM, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah they're different for sure but I think if you like one you'll like the other!

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:51 (9 months ago) Permalink

Oh, ok! Very possible! I do, at least.

― StanM, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

i wonder why i think that though.. i mean both owe a big debt to detroit but as you say, laux is coming from a very dave clarke-ish place, a very dare i say progressive place where techno is moving forward, perfecting a kind of stubborn trackiness - seeing how far you can push the complexity of what is essentially a one-chord song. and it's glossy, futuristic, swirly and psychedelic - all that eddying, glistening atmosphere around the chattering hi hats. redshape is way more deliberately retro with his big lachrymose synth stabs. keep it simple stupid. everything sounds a bit rougher, but there's an actual melodic ambition (hello geir) going on here. the songs aren't JUST about layering and dynamics, they go somewhere else as well.

what they both have in common for me is a sense of rising tension and foreboding, anchored by a very front-and-center kick drum which is usually coupled with a perfunctory, robert armani-ish analog bass part, and the two just wallop you right along.

but laux's grimy, rain-soaked dystopia still has a few sparkles of rave-era utopianism in it, reflecting up out of the puddles, propelling you forward. redshape is well past that.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

i mean, even the few happy-ish moments on the album seem more nostalgic and wistful than actually happy

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:18 (9 months ago) Permalink

U rite good, mr hand.

― StanM, Monday, 16 November 2009 18:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

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