Blue Oyster Cult: Classic or Dud?

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Former rock critics wrote lyrics with them (Richard Meltzer, Patti Smith, Sandy Pearlman).

I always thought BOC was a much better band on record than on stage.

Live, the band always just sounded like another 70s rock boogie band. But the recording studio always seemed to be the place where they shined most (Agents of Fortune, Spectres, Mirrors).

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― rockcrit88, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 15:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Love BOC about as much as I hate 'em. Horribly uneven band. Some great, great songs, but even their best albums are patchy. Never saw 'em live, and the live recordings I've heard haven't convinced me I missed much.

I'll say classic just out of fascination with perversity. But it seems like futile gesture.

― Pye Poudre, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

― NYCNative, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Secret Treaties is very classic.

― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

classic. one of my fave bands. buy all of these:

Blue Öyster Cult
Tyranny and Mutation
Secret Treaties
Agents of Fortune
Spectres
Mirrors
Cultösaurus Erectus
Fire of Unknown Origin
The Revölution by Night

and *on your feet or on your knees* too.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Should've been classic, given their obvious intelligence, humor (some of their song titles are laugh-out-loud funny), and taste in collaborators. But aside from a handful of classic tunes, I haven't found much there after years of trying to like them. I think they sold 999 records to bongloading teens for every one they sold to someone who "got" them.

Although, Buck Dharma (nee Donald Roeser) has to be one of the top 10 rock pseudonyms of all time.

― The Deacon, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

Scott and Trip Maker OTM, everyone else not. If you have to spend time worrying about whether or not people liked them for the right reasons, you need another hobby yo. Plus: bongloading teens are people too!

― Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

Their records sound good and sometimes give me gigglefits.

good enough for me.

― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

bombers at 12 o'clock high!

BOC was awesome...never really a heavy-metal band, they were more rooted in boogie ("Red And Black", "Dominance & Submission", "I'm On The Lamb But I Ain't No Sheep") and pop ("Celestial The Queen", "Goin' Through The Motions")...excellent ballads, too ("I Love The Night", "Debby Denise", "In Thee")...I could go on and on...Eric Bloom's vocals were always a bit overwrought, but during the span cited by scott above, they could do little wrong...

― henry s, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

Stalk-Forrest Group album is my favorite. OK, I've said it before!

U know it bears repeating!

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Classic. A solid hard-rock band and the first meta-metal band, and almost unfailingly funny. Sort of the Dictators of arena rock.

― fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know if any of the recordings of them with Les Braunstein on vocals (Soft White Underbelly sessions - 1st attempt at LP for Elektra) have ever surfaced?

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Steve Holtje got into an argument on someone's Blog recently in response to an article about Hipster Metal that went something like this:

Blogger: Hipster Metal is ironic and real metal was never ironic.
Steve: BOC was metal and ironic!
Blogger: They were not metal but I'll give you ironic.

I was with Steve on this one. Sure BOC had some non-metal moments but at the time they were deemed metal and how can you not call a band metal when they definied it in their prime?

― NYCNative, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Everyone at the time would have called BOC metal, same as early Led Zeppelin. In the 80s metal became a social category whose gatekeepers had to weed out the non-purists. Retroactively a lot of 70s bands didn't seem to make the cut.

― fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

Search these for sure :

Stalk-Forrest Group album
Blue Oyster Cult
Tyranny & Mutation
Secret Treaties
Agents of Fortune (side 1)

and about a couple of albums worth of odd tracks from the rest. Imaginos was way underwhelming when it finally came out, too much fucking Aldo Nova. I didn't see them till the 1980's by which time it was merely fair-to-middling.

Any love for Club Ninja?

― Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think BOC saw themselves as heavy metal in the Burroughsian sense rather than the arena rock sense. Sandy Pearlman did anyway.

― Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Whatever that means.

― Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

OK - for me that involved a narrowing of the aesthetic. Meltzer has said likewise, I think, or something related. That is why Stalk-Forrest Group album feels fresh to me while the later albums, much as I might like things on 'em, feel boxed in.

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

And even Stalk-Forrest Group album has too much west coast stonerism going on, really.

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

You can have too much?

― Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

SO classic. The American Black Sabbath couldn't match Sabbath's metal purity and conviction, but they made up for it in variety, singing, lyrics (thanks to those collaborators), melody, humour, arcane mysterioso dread, all that. And unlike Sabbath, they eventually succumbed to clueless AOR crap ("Burnin' For You" was superior AOR crap), but at least they had 10 good years.

(Sorry if I'm just repeating stuff already said on this thread - can't read it thoroughly while the teacher's looking)

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

I saw BOC live last year, doing the state fair rounds. they know what they are, a jukebox fulla great tunes, and they delivered. they even did "shooting shark" and "veteran of the psychic wars".

when they launched into "godzilla" crowd members young and old became a sea of stomping, bobbing heads. I don't care what year yr in, that's heavy and it's metal.

a buddy of mine's been working on an article on them. he's a freelancer but he doesn't usually do music stuff so he's not even sure where to shop it. he just likes the band and it was an excuse to interview Eric Bloom. anybody got any tips?

― Edward III, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'm looking at about three shows this year -- Rochester, Naperville, and there was one other one I was eyeing, i'd have to check their website.

anyway, obviously totally classic, and still a good live show.

Surely there are about 10 BOC threads already?

― Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

that's what i thought, but there isn't an actual C&D/S&D thread.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

though there are other threads.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think the game plan was to send up genre conventions (solos, occultism, arena banter) and make a quick buck off of them. Within those limitations they were good.

― fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

Classic! I've been listening to Agents of Fortunes, Spectres, and Cultosaurus Erectus on a fairly heavy rotation the last couple weeks. And I have a little bit of love for Club Ninja. "Perfect Water" and "Dancing in the Ruins" are both great. I wrote a little thing about why I like them on my music blog:

Why the fascination with azure mollusk fanatics? Well, they were one of the first bands that I sort of stumbled upon following the inevitable "wait, Dave Matthews Band and Hootie & The Blowfish sort of suck, I wonder what else is out there" revelation. I mean, besides the obvious stuff like Black Sabbath and Guns and Roses. This was a band that I found myself! Well, I probably found it through hearing the song "Godzilla" in a great music video on the late, lamented TNT show Monster Vision, but you get the idea. That lead me to believe that they were a joke band, but I purchased the excellent two-disc anthology Workshop of the Telescopes on a whim, and loved it. Hell, by this point I've worn out the second disc, the one with all their poppy stuff on it. Basically, what I love about Blue Oyster Cult is that they were probably the smartest 70s hard rock/proto-metal band. Alice Cooper was clever, sure, Black Sabbath were scary, Deep Purple more overdriven, KISS bigger dumber fun, Led Zeppelin just more, but BOC were the most articulate and intelligent lyricists. Plus, they had great tunes and hooks, definitely a bonus. It probably helped that they had music critics and brilliant sci-fi/fantasy author Michael Moorcock writing for them. Unfortunately, they were probably too smart for their own good, to the point of obtuseness. They should have put on makeup and sung about girls instead. Probably would've been much bigger.

― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

I have been reading Martin Popoff's BOC book in the bathroom lately. You can tell he's a fan. It's mostly quotes from the band and other hanger-ons and it does a nice job of discussing the good, bad and ugly periods for the band.

Oh, my favorite BOC song is probably not the favorite of many: "Take Me Away."

― NYCNative, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

You can have too much?

-- Matt #2, Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:07 AM (41 minutes ago)

I'm certainly more likely to listen to "Arthur Comics" than to "A Fact About Sneakers."

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Arthur Comics" is kind of real early American proto-punk, isn't it? Like Hackamore Brick and stuff.

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Does anyone know if any of the recordings of them with Les Braunstein on vocals (Soft White Underbelly sessions - 1st attempt at LP for Elektra) have ever surfaced?"

Being the pathetic BOC fan I am, I searched thoroughly for them but I never found anything.

― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Arthur Comics" is kind of real early American proto-punk, isn't it? Like Hackamore Brick and stuff"

Obviously yes - all these bands drew from the same secret source.

― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

If I remember right, he may not have put much of anything down in the studio. I think that's where they got hung up.

x-post

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Never read the Popoff book but the most exhaustive account of the band's history I've ever seen was the cover story of Goldmine a few years ago .. maybe 1999 or 2000? Anyway, just a massive article, it was like 20 pages before you even got to the switch from Stalk-Forrest to BOC...

― Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Seeing Myonga refer to B.O.C. as The American Black Sabbath reminded me of a theory I cooked up a little while back about B.O.C. being The American Hawkwind

Why-

1. Some Sci-Fi mythology (altough certainly less so for BOC)
2. Two biggest hits not sung by lead singer (BOC-"Reaper" & "Burnin'" sung by Roeser. Hawkwind-"Silver Machine" sung by Lemmy & "Quark..." by Bob Calvert) Which leads to...
3. Literary Connections (BOC-Pearlman, Meltzer & Patti Smith. Hawkwind-Michael Moorcock & Bob Calvert)
4. BOOGIE!
5. LASERS!

― C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

BOC also had Moorcock.

― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

But there's a serious lead guitar disparity between the two.

― fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

they also shared the same listserv email group way back in the day! the BOC/Hawkwind list. Good times. Albert Bouchard and Deb Frost used to post to it once in a very blue moon.

― Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

i gotz love for Club Ninja! i bought that cassette when i was a kid. didn't know shit abt BOC, so it was the first one i heard...Dancin' in the Ruins is a great slab of AOR!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think they were the best American band of the 1970s. How about that, fuckers. Better than Utopia, even.

Great tunes, excellent feel, great harmony vocals - occasionally they sound like the heavy metal byrds, & what on earth could possibly be better than that, eh?

Buck Dharma is an awesome, underrated lead guitarist, as well.

I saw them live w/aldo nova supporting - I'm pretty sure it was the tour for "Club Ninja", as it happens. All the reviews in "sounds" etc were like "they're past their prime, yawn, avoid", I was dreading it, a bit but they tore the place up, once they got going they were like this unstoppable machine, they could have gone on all night for me.

One track by them I absolutely love is off "Imaginos" (which is pretty ropey otherwise) - "I am the one you warned me of", what a fucking track! Does anyone else dig that one?

I don't normally go in for rock-list-o-philia, but if I had to name my 5 favourite bands, BOC would make the list, easily.

― Pashmina, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

I named my band's second album "Buck Dharma" in tribute (the resulting confusion on the Amazon page is pure hilarity worthy of The Onion), so you know where I stand.

To answer Matt's question, Club Ninja has it's moments. The production is actually not horrible for a mid-80s album, and "Dancin In The Ruins" is a killer song. I haven't heard it in a long time, but I remember it rather fondly. Then, I was nine when it came out.

All things considered, the Stalk Forrest Group album, after hearing about it for so many years, left me slightly underwhelmed.

― Manalishi, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

Somewhere on ILM is a post about one of my favorite concert experiences: fIREHOSE opening up for Blue Oyster Cult at a dead movie theater in Riverside sometime in 1987. Watt babbled about opening up for his heroes and even wore his old Secret Treaties shirt.

BOC hadn't released an album in years (Imaginos doesn't really count), there was maybe 30 people in the audience, the Bouchard brothers were long gone, and the soundsystem was mostly crap so the first third of the show was slogging pretty badly until Eric Bloom went on this five minute berserk rant about frustration, UFOs, being "On Tour Forever," paranoia, shitty gigs, etc. etc. that blew up into an AMAZING version of "Take Me Away" that simultaneously blew out the cobwebs and gave them a full tank of rocket fuel because the rest of the gig was the LA Forum in 1975, even if there weren't any lasers.

― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

"BOC hadn't released an album in years (Imaginos doesn't really count), there was maybe 30 people in the audience"

30 people to see BOC + fIREHOSE?!
that's crazy.

― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

I heard one of their newer albums from 1999 or so, it was bloody awful. Just sounded like Magnum or something. Here's a band that needs to realise that the wheel has turned, and they could get a whole new younger audience if they went back to basics.

My BOC gameplan :

1. Get the proper line-up back together, burying the hatchet if necessary.
2. Do one of those Don't Look Back-type tours, playing the first 3 albums in their entirety.
3. Record a new album with whoever produces Witchcraft or someone like that, with Sandy Pearlman and / or sci-fi authors writing all the lyrics.
4. Clean up (hopefully).

They could still tour state fairs in the summer too, who'd know? Anyway, none of this'll ever happen more's the pity. I may have to start a tribute band instead.

― Matt #2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

I always thought that Radio Birdman were heavily influenced by Blue Oyster Cult.

― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

5. Bring back the giant paper-mache Godzilla headpiece during the drum solo.

― fife, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Skipping 86 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Yeah, stuff in the boxes tends to stay in the boxes - the bonus disc of live Mahavishnu Orchestra stuff would generate huge interest if it got a stand-alone release, but they're not doing it.

― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 13 August 2012 16:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

Wonder if the early CD's will come with those lyric sheets (printed in that "futuristic" font) that you could get with a self-addressed, stamped envelope.

― henry s, Monday, 13 August 2012 16:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

Oh man, I need to get this… Probably going to be damn expensive, though.

― Hamster of Legend (J3ff T.), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Up for $112 bucks on pre-order at barnes and noble today...

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s?view=grid&store=Music&CAT=1025851&PRO=13

― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

Wanna buy one of Albert Bouchard's guitars? Only $550.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/190731028279?item=190731028279&ViewItem=

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:55 (7 months ago) Permalink

If you stood that guitar up it would probably be taller than Al.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 13:23 (7 months ago) Permalink

man i hope that's not the box art, not that cool :(

― jalapeno kloppers (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:52 (7 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Tonight's Times Square show rescheduled due to frankenstorm.

http://bestbuytheater.com/eventdetail.php?id=37375

The above link does not say to when, but Al Bouchard said on BOC-L that it's resched to tomorrow night...

― this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 28 October 2012 16:49 (6 months ago) Permalink

^make that NEXT monday night, not tomorrow. I misread.

― this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 28 October 2012 16:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

~O~M~G~

So the rescheduled Times Square 40th anniv show is happening tomorrow night. And E. Bloom just announced on fb that Albert and Joe are going to be playing at least 5 songs with them! And Allen Lanier even!

(plus not very subtle hints that a certain rather famous occasional BOC lyricist will get up for some guest vox) (NOT michael moorcock).

AIIEEE so psyched!

― this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 4 November 2012 22:59 (6 months ago) Permalink

Um.... holy shit how did I miss this?

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 November 2012 00:32 (6 months ago) Permalink

So...how was this? I might have journeyed out if not for the spotty post-Sandy LIRR service.

― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:49 (6 months ago) Permalink

It was awesome. For the moment, here's the set list and I'll try to get more descriptive later. Awesome highlights marked with ***

[current lineup takes stage to 'Game Of Thrones' theme. E. Bloom, Buck Dharma, Richie Castellano (gtr, keys), Kasim Sulton (bass), Jules Radino (drums)]
1. This Ain't the Summer of Love
2. Golden Age of Leather
3. Burnin' For You
4. Harvest Moon***
5. ME 262
6. Then Came the Last Days of May***
7. Lips in the Hills***
8. Shooting Shark (guest: sax player from Letterman band, apparently an old time friend of the band)***
9. Godzilla (including portions of 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot', 'Bang the Drum All Day', 'Paradise by the Dashboard Light' and the theme from 'Night Court')
10. I Love the Night***
[brief break, return with acoustic setup and additional percussionist]
11. Harvester of Eyes***
12. Astronomy***
13. Gil Blanco County***
14. Death Valley Nights (guest: Albert Bouchard, vocals)
15. In Thee (guest: Allen Lanier, guitar)
[brief break, return to electric setup]
16. Summa Cum Laude (song recorded for the soundtrack of Teachers but rejected, included on the new box set apparently)***
17. Arthur Comics
18. Black Blade
[brief break, return without Castellano/Sulton/Radino but Bouchard/Bouchard/Lanier instead]
19. OD'd on Life Itself
20. Career of Evil***
21. The Red and the Black***
22. Don't Fear the Reaper [orig lineup joined by current lineup-- 8 ppl onstage]

― this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 00:03 (6 months ago) Permalink

wow, would have loved to go. i heard they were going to do one more song with albert singing (cities on flame, maybe?) but bumped against an 11pm curfew so went straight to reaper.

― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 01:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

Amazing setlist imo

― Agreeable Goal-reacher (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 01:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

Just as FYI, there's a recording of this on D 1 m 3 @ d 0 z 3 n

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 01:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

9. Godzilla (including portions of 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot', 'Bang the Drum All Day', 'Paradise by the Dashboard Light' and the theme from 'Night Court')

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 01:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

Well, basically the 'bass solo' in the middle of Godzilla consisted of Bloom listing all the bands Kasim Sulton has been in (Joan Jett, Utopia, Meatloaf) with the band busting into a few bars of a corresponding hit. And then Sulton did an unaccompanied solo which if my memory isn't playing tricks on me was riffing off Night Court (and if my memory is playing tricks on me maybe it was Seinfeld...)

― this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 03:34 (6 months ago) Permalink

9. Godzilla (including portions of 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot','Bang the Drum All Day', 'Paradise by the Dashboard Light' and the theme from 'Night Court

Did the same bit when I saw them

― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 05:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

Wow @ the Stalk-Forrest stuff!

― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

been working through the lovely Columbia box set. sound quality is terrific. haven't gotten quite all of it listened to yet but - the Rarities disc - "stepping razor" is killer; another cover, "it's not easy" shows how underrated Albert B. may have been - his playing is economical and jazzy. Best of the Broadcasts has awesome versions of "lips in the hills" and "black blade".
never heard imaginos before. "del rio song" is a treat. and "perfect water", mentioned upthread, has such a incredible Buck solo, i hate to say that it's up there with Hendrix 'cuz i don't know what that even means.......

― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:55 (5 months ago) Permalink

I wondered if anyone had broken down and bought it. Sounds pretty great.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:58 (5 months ago) Permalink

y'all might've already seen this but if not: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1285

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:04 (5 months ago) Permalink

it's so lonely in the state of maine

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:06 (5 months ago) Permalink

Gonna buy it pretty soon. Maybe before end of year. Outdoor Miner did you download the free concert recordings that come with it yet?

― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:44 (5 months ago) Permalink

Tyler, thanking u, cool that they have it track by track since I was at the show and I can just grab the ones that were awesome.

― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:46 (5 months ago) Permalink

not yet. first few days the link wasn't working and haven't gone back for 'em. but in case you're wondering they're all shows from the 1980's:
old waldorf, sf, 1980; Bond's, nyc, 1981; perkin's palace, pasadena, 1983; santa monica civic, 1986. obv a few tracks show up 2 or 3 times but the sets are pretty varied overall. really glad to have another live version of 7 screaming diz busters. that's one they always rework brilliantly....i've heard the '83 show before and it is a goodie

― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:06 (5 months ago) Permalink

how much is the box set? i really want this bad....

― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:15 (5 months ago) Permalink

around $120?

― EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

jon, so the *** are the ones worth grabbing?

― tylerw, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

I only have the waldorf show out of those, and I'm sure that will sound better than the boot i have. Exciting!

― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:17 (5 months ago) Permalink

tyler, yeah in my opinion. But the only actual dud was In Thee. You should hear the whole show cuz why not.

― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:19 (5 months ago) Permalink

Since y'all are gonna hear this show now, I'm curious what you think about the long solo section of 'Last Days Of May'. Castellano takes a several minute gtr solo, then Buck takes a several minute gtr solo. It put me very specifically in mind of when I saw Nusrat Fateh Khan & Party in Seattle in the early nineties-- he had this younger qawwali singer at his right hand who kept doing all these long super-flashy melismas and then Nusrat would come in and just crush his young techy ass with one syllable.

― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

also thinking of breaking down & buying the set

(typing onna ipad, how the fuck do people do this?)

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:42 (5 months ago) Permalink

Basically, I'm hoping there'll be a good deal on it on dec. 26th.

― my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:46 (5 months ago) Permalink

Anybody heard the remastered "On Your Feet...."? Is it a significant improvement?

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 7 December 2012 18:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

I've heard it (On Your Feet). It sounds fantastic.

― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

Shit, i think you just cost me $120 or however much the box costs!

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:02 (5 months ago) Permalink

I've also heard the remaster of Cultosaurus Erectus, which sounds great too. So I'm assuming they did a really good job on the other studio albums that haven't been tweaked since whenever.

― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 7 December 2012 19:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm hoping this box will spark a renaissance of Cultosaurus appreciation. Such an amazing album.

― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:31 (5 months ago) Permalink

what about mirrors, kinda hate the brassy 80s production on that, hopefully mastering can help

Cultosaurus Erectus is so crewsh

― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:43 (5 months ago) Permalink

Martin Birch FTW

― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:49 (5 months ago) Permalink

i think tom werman produced mirrors, that guy sucks

― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

have you read the Martin Popoff BOC book yet? (if not DO IT)

― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 20:02 (5 months ago) Permalink

no i haven't, i read a chapter online once seemed cool, seemed really trainspotter-ish but that's kinda what i want

― the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 December 2012 20:03 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah it's exactly like a really really long BOC zine with access to all the players, you'll love it.

― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 20:06 (5 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Looks like these may be the droids / individually released remasters you're looking for. Anyone heard anything about this? Would be psyched for a really good sounding OYFOOYK

http://www.culturefactoryusa.com/new-releases/view/productdetails/virtuemart_product_id/106/virtuemart_category_id/4

― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:54 (5 days ago) Permalink

awesome, looking forward to that

there's a youtube of redcap from march 5th that claims to be "remastered", but i can't tell the diff

― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 16:29 (5 days ago) Permalink

I'm still gonna opt for the box set. Just got my (modest) annual bonus, maybe now's the time.

Apparently, the movie Oblivion has a close up of the Some Enchanted Evening sleeve in it. Come with me, young man...

― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 16:56 (5 days ago) Permalink

Just scores the Martin Popoff book -- very satisfying. Thanks for the tip, Mr Spatula

― Marcus / Xgau - Whose Century? (broom air), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:37 (4 days ago) Permalink

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