Who are the Ten Best Punk Rock bands of all-time?

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Has this been done before?

― yoko0no, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know. The Lemmings were awful good. But in the top ten punk bands ever? That seems like a bit of an overstatement.

...though following each other off a cliff was totally hardcore.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

― Pye Poudre, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

y'know i can't see the phrase "all-time" in a thread title without thinkin of wagemama now

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ummm, are you looking for unusual choices? My list is going to be predictable because, really, if we're talking punk I'm mostly thinking old school 76-79 (with a couple of exceptions). Most of these bands changed into, duh, post-punk bands but their earliest work is punk:

Sex Pistols - yes, I still love their album
The Damned
Buzzcocks
Adverts
Wire
The Jam
Stiff Little Fingers
The Saints
Newtown Neurotics (great 80s punk!)
China Drum (great 90s punk!)

Steve Gardner really nailed this in this list:
http://www.nkvdrecords.com/top100lp.htm

― Mr. Odd, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Black Flag
Clash
Germs
Misfits
NY Dolls
Ramones
Sex Pistols
Stooges
Suicide
Wipers

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

MisfitsX10

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait, no, Bad Brains

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

fall out boy x 10

― cankles, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hongroe x 10

― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't resist a list...
In no order:

The Clash
The Sex Pistols
Rocket From The Tombs
Wire
Ramones
X
Gang Of Four
Minutemen
X-Ray Spex
Buzzcocks

― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I forgot The Seeds and The Monks

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

#1 - Fleetwood Mac

― milo z, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey guys is there a big fall out boy thread i cant find one and i would like to discuss their musix~~

― cankles, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

See, I thought we were posting cuet that look like punk rock band. My bad.

― Pye Poudre, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Black Flag, but only with Rollins
Bad Brains, but only with Israel Joseph I
Misfits, but only with Michale Graves
Dead Kennedys, but only with Brandon Cruz

― unperson, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dez Cadenam, but only in the Misfits?

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cadena, yo

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

television
gang of four
velvet underground
suicide
the slits
green day
avril lavigne
neu!
sum 41
sr-71

― Stevie D, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

offspring
offspring
offspring
offspring
offspring
offspring
offspring
offspring
offspring
offspring

― ghost rider, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

8080
8080
8080
8080
8080
8080
8080
8080
css
blood diamonds

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Buzzcocks
Ramones
New Bomb Turks
Wire
Radio Birdman
Thrown Ups
Weirdos
Dwarves
Sex Pistols
Rocket from the... Crypt

― MC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh and the fucking

COWS

motherfuckers

― MC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here, smell this:
ramones
clash
circle jerks
dead kennedys
new york dolls
stooges
minutemen
sex pistols
saints
minor threat

― yoko0no, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

dead kennedys
misfits
the germs
the stooges
black flag
bad brains
flipper
ramones
big black
hot snakes

― circa1916, Friday, 30 March 2007 01:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

The best punk band is the latest best punk band!

Jay Reatard
A Frames
Dwarves
Minutemen
Flipper
Bad Brains
Wire
Clash
Dead Boys
Stooges

Gawd, the late 90s were a dry spell. Maybe Rancid belongs in there. I'll have to give them an objective listen.

― bendy, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I put up such a list, you could probably dispute the punkishness of them all, and their best material would mostly be their least punk-sounding.

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Desperate Bicycles
Subway Sect
X-Ray Spex
The Drones
Buzzcocks (Devoto-era)
Siouxsie and The Banshees (Mackay/Morris-era)
The Adverts
Nicky and The Dots
Some Chicken
Raincoats

― Dr.C, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Geir: Go for it!

― Mark G, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well. Choosing not to distinguish between late 70s new wave or punk:

Elvis Costello
The Jam
The Clash
Nick Lowe
Boomtown Rats
Magazine
Wire
The Police
Graham Parker & The Rumour
The Stranglers
Television
Green Day
The Buzzcocks
Generation X
The Ramones
Talking Heads
Joe Jackson
New York Dolls
Siouxie & The Banshees
Damned

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, I'll give you about half of those as "yep"

Nick Lowe's 'least punk' = country music. Obviously you don't mean those.

The rest count as "OK"

Except Graham Parker, in retrospect.

― Mark G, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

the kids
the dicks
the cramps
the eyes
wipers
germs
the real kids
the godz
sonics
ramones

― ian, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

fuck, i forgot the pagans. replace real kids with pagans.

― ian, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

yo ian i've never heard the kids - what're they like?

― pretzel walrus, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Kids are more like pub rock than punk really, but they're good at it.

― Colonel Poo, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

X
ramones
the clash
sex pistols
buzzcocks
sleater-kinney
husker du

i don't consider Television to be "punk" even though they came out of the cbgb scene; same with Patti Smith. Go4 were postpunk, like Sonic Youth
NY Dolls preinvented punk; they have as much in common with old Rolling Stones, imo
the Sonics, Stooges, Seeds, Monks, etc. were prototypes but i just don't think they fit neatly into the label "punk"

― outdoor_miner, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

the kids are totally a fucking punk band! how can a band with song titles like "fascist cops" NOT be a punk band? belgium 77?7? great catchy punk. my favorite jam is probably "i wanna get a job in the city."

― ian, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

My list: (not in order)

Crime
Dead Kennedys
Blitz
Lewd
Damned
Saints
Avengers
UK Subs
Thee Headcoats
Wipers

― Colonel Poo, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wanna get a job in the city is great but it sounds like Eddie & the Hot Rods!

― Colonel Poo, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i forgot to add the Butthole Surfers to my list...

― yoko0no, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

germs
black flag
flipper
minutemen
gun club
red cross
saccharine trust
thinking fellers
ramones
saints

― dan, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

ghost rider 8080 + blink-182

― max, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gawd, the late 90s were a dry spell. Maybe Rancid belongs in there. I'll have to give them an objective listen.

Thats probablly because punk had become largely irrelevent by 1984...

― yoko0no, Saturday, 31 March 2007 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Irrelevant to you, maybe.

― Soukesian, Saturday, 31 March 2007 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

seconded.

my picks:

Angry Samoans
Dwarves
Minor Threat
Bad Brains
Germs
Weirdos
Screamers
Big Boys
Black Flag
Crass

― sleeve, Saturday, 31 March 2007 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Irrelevant to you, maybe.

Really? I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on how punk was relevent after 1984. It seems to me that the medium had been more than played out by that time and that rap had taken over the role that punk had formerly had. The Beastie Boys switch from punk to rap/hip hop is an obvious example of this, dont you think?

― yoko0no, Saturday, 31 March 2007 18:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, when the Beastie Boys lost interest, that was IT, right?

― Soukesian, Saturday, 31 March 2007 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Beastie Boys realized that punk was no longer the vehicle in which to express themselves to the youth, and that in fact rap/hip hop would be much a more effective vehicle overall. After thier embrace of rap/hip hop they still whipped out the 2 minute punk rock song from time to time, but it was rare.

― yoko0no, Saturday, 31 March 2007 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

the beastie boys were hardly a good punk band, so when they switched to a medium they were much better at - it hardly has any reflection on the rest of rather large genre that had yet to spew out many of its greatest acts

― UncleTomfly, Sunday, 1 April 2007 00:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Skipping 112 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

yoko, please to be finding some offline friends that you can discuss this shit with, and a diner/pub/coffee shop that you can discuss it in. Remember, you each have to order something off the menu to be considered a patron. Do tip your waiter or waitress (if it's a coffee shop, show some love to the tip jar). That is all.

― Tantrum The Cat, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tantrum, if the point of this board isnt to discuss music, then what IS the point of it?

― yoko0no, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would definitely read that

xpost to mr que

― Edward III, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Thats probablly because punk had become largely irrelevent by 1984..."

i was still - for some reason. god knows why. - replying to this in my posts.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tantrum, if the point of this board isnt to discuss music, then what IS the point of it?

-- yoko0no, Wednesday, April 4, 2007 1:58 PM (4 minutes ago)

You're discussing music?

― Tantrum The Cat, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha like I need to call television punk to reveal my shortcomings...

― Edward III, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

You're discussing music?

No, I'm discussing pizza...

― yoko0no, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dick-waving about what is & isn't punk rock has fuck-all to do with music.
Go practice your High Fidelity routine elsewhere.

― Tantrum The Cat, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's hornbyist!

― Mark G, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tantrum, why are you trying to ruin my fun? I enjoyed the movie [/i]High Fidelity[/i]. Dont be such a buzzkill. If you dont want to read about the Punk versus new Wave debate then I suggest you practice a little self-discipline and refrain from clicking on this link...Seriously Poindexter, take the corndog out of your wa-toozie... this conversation isnt hurting anyone...

― yoko0no, Thursday, 5 April 2007 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

And to think I was worried I'd never get to use this sock-puppet again.

― I AM PAUL EDWARD WAGEMANN AND I DIED FOR YOUR SINS, CRETIN., Thursday, 5 April 2007 02:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tantrum, why are you trying to ruin my fun?

Serious response:

These threads of yours all seem to lead to the same thing - you spouting your alleged musical wisdom under the guise of soliciting other peoples'opinions, and on the most hackneyed topics to boot.

The funny part is I like the majority of the music you're talking about, but pitting the Beatles against the Stones (just to use one example) is for geriatrics and MOJO columnists, and it's exactly the kind of needlessly reductionist bullcrit that I come to ILM to get the fuck away from.

But don't let me stop you. Carry on with your "Top Ten Worst New Wave Haircuts" and your "Top 64 Bootleg Iggy Pop Collectibles". I'll be reading other threads from here on in.

― Tantrum The Cat, Thursday, 5 April 2007 02:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Top Ten Worst New Wave Haircuts"

okay, this might actually be fun...

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2007 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

phil's haircut here might make my list:

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2007 03:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

all gone :(

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2007 03:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really understand people who seperate punk from just, you know, good rock music.

I always hate it when people, yes that includes YOU Scott, say this. What is so bad about categorization? I mean, when you go into the supermarket would you want your fruit lumped with, say, toilet paper? Sometimes it makes it easier for people. Some people like *order* and there's nothing wrong with labeling something as it places something in the *grand scheme* of things. You might not like your music put into neat little subgenres, but that doesn't mean others don't. If you want to discuss something, especially something which is unknown to the other, then you need a label/genre/whatever. Of course nitpicking is a bit daft. At the end of the day you gotta let go.

― nathalie, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't have a problem with labels. i was still answering the dude's punk-was-over-by-84 comments. i was saying that if you like good rock music than there will always be worthwhile reasons to listen to punk rock. and that includes new music. i don't believe in monoliths. punk means so many different things to so many people. it's like saying, "that art doesn't work anymore, it's broken". it's ALWAYS gonna work for SOMEONE. and people are always gonna get something out of any form of music no matter how neglected it is. not that punk is all that neglected. it still thrives all over.

maybe what i never understood is the idea that if something doesn't take over the planet that it's over or bankrupt or something.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

and liking good rock music is only ONE reason of many why punk is still vital and worth hearing. punk inspires art, writing, movies, other non-punk genres of every variety. it inspires people to start bands and labels and zines and more importantly it inspires people every day to hate and/or question their government and parents. and their grandma. and their science teacher.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

there is no such thing as a "dead" genre. everything is ripe for the picking. always and forever.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you people know why Crass always intended to disband in 1984?

― yoko0no, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

some tax shit?

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it was yoko's fault

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

They secretly invented the mac?

― John Justen, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

scott seward is a genius. i applaud the monitor when he posts.

― stevie, Thursday, 5 April 2007 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

in my experience, people that say "punk is dead" haven't actually dug down into the underground and checked out what's going on for like years.

but yeah skot OTM x a million.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 5 April 2007 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

ibid

― Pye Poudre, Thursday, 5 April 2007 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

yoko, you're an ass. everyone agrees. im done feeding the troll.

― UncleTomfly, Friday, 6 April 2007 02:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Those Human League chicks are still hot.

― MC, Friday, 6 April 2007 12:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really? They look like a couple psychotic PTA mothers to me...

― yoko0no, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

"psychotic"

― Mr. Que, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fartz

― Tinky-Winky, Friday, 6 April 2007 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

in my experience, people that say "punk is dead" haven't actually dug down into the underground and checked out what's going on for like years.

Could be applied to any genre ever.

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 6 April 2007 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Geir OTM, AGAIN

this is getting weird

― Hans Rott, Saturday, 7 April 2007 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh the 10 best btw

clikitat ikitowi
yaphet kotto
antioch arrow
born against
moss icon
rorshach
nausea
submission hold
circle takes the square
his hero is gone
amebix

fuck it that's eleven, you get an extra

― Hans Rott, Saturday, 7 April 2007 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

what the hell...

Minor Threat
The Clash
Black Flag
Dead Kennedys
Ramones
Sex Pistols
The Stooges
The Stranglers
The Business
The Suspects

― Jlahr, Saturday, 7 April 2007 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait I thought some more, it's actually

shai hulud
crossed out
rupture
shudder to think
prozac memory
plaid retina
shelter
wrangler brutes
new mexican disaster squad

and the effigies

― Hans Rott, Saturday, 7 April 2007 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

more like Cougar League amirite

― milo z, Sunday, 8 April 2007 03:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Prozac Memory is great! But 'punk'?

My favorite punk band might be the Dictators, though.

― Tape Store, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

McClusky
Minutemen
Blondie
Shellac
Television
Patti Smith Group
Bikini Kill
Buzzcocks
The Pop Group
Ramones

― I know, right?, Sunday, 8 April 2007 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Woah Prozac Memory! Columbia Missouri, yeah!

― Mr. Que, Sunday, 8 April 2007 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Who are you Mr. Que? Do I know you?

― Tape Store, Monday, 9 April 2007 00:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

With a few exceptions, punk rock fucking sucks.

― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 9 April 2007 00:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Geir OTM, AGAIN

this is getting weird

http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&q=%22geir+otm%22&meta=

;)

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 9 April 2007 00:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Who are you Mr. Que? Do I know you?

-- Tape Store, Sunday, April 8, 2007 8:16 PM (Yesterday)

Yeah dude maybe you do. I lived in Columbia from 1991-1999. I also lived with Jared from PM back in the day. Who are you?

― Mr. Que, Monday, 9 April 2007 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

who who who who - i really wanna know, who are you? Who who who who...

Is McClusky really punk though???

― Tinky-Winky, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 02:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I doubt I know you, actually. I've lived in Columbia my whole life (=1989), but I really only started hanging out with cool people a few years ago...I'm friends with David (of True/False), Tripmaker (of I had a psychotic reaction to LSD) and Jeremy (of Jerusalem & Starbaskts). I'm kind of good acquaintances with Hunter and Gabe (of Mahjongg), and I'm a part of Cat Jams (Channing K.'s label). Know anyone I named?

― Tape Store, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Surely, a reaction was needed against the bad and way too mainstream thing that called itself "progressive" rock without being "progressive" at all, but a return to the three chord roots through punk was a step in the wrong direction rather than the right one.

One should rather have gone for an elitist experimental modernist avant garde movement to knock the entire corporate rock thing to the ground and replace it with some true art.

― Camenend Bob Dole, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 08:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

One should rather have gone for an elitist experimental modernist avant garde movement to knock the entire corporate rock thing to the ground and replace it with some true art.

But isn't that what at least part of post-punk was? Pere Ubu to thread!

― Guilty_Boksen, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 11:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought the term Post-punk only applied to British bands?

― Tinky-Winky, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 12:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Top 10:

The Clash
Minutemen
The Sex Pistols
Black Flag
Husker Du
Public Image Ltd. (original lineup)
The Replacements (original lineup)
The Monks
Fugazi
Bikini Kill

Then (roughly):

Rocket from the Tombs
Wire
Beat Happening
Pere Ubu
Flipper
X
Talking Heads
Dead Kennedys
The Big Boys
Mission of Burma
The Dicks
Heavens to Betsy
The Suicide Commandos
Plugz
Descendents
Adolescents
The Bad Brains
Misfits
Scream
The Avengers
The Sonics
Die Kreuzen
The Crucifucks
MDC

and I know I'm forgetting some favorites...

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

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