A dreary, depleted port town two hours west of London, Bristol was once where, among other things, tobacco came into England. Now, littered with empty packs that read "Cigarettes Can Cause a Slow and Painful Death", the city sits in a purgatorial fog. "It reeked of sleep", Martin Amis wrote in London Fields. "Somnopolis. It reeked of it, and insomniac worry and disquiet and thwarted escape. Because we are all poets or babies in the middle of the night, struggling with being"... If I weren't standing here, the venue would seem as though Albarn invented it in one of his songs.
― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 February 2007 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Holy fucking crap.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I suppose as hatted groups go they're better than Orson.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link
That's actually a pretty GOOD reason to stick one's head an oven.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― b ham (b ham), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, I was out on Saturday evening and I didn't see any purgatorial fog at all.
― Bobby Peace (Bobby Peace), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― a nuclear-powered carrot (braveclub), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link
what on earth does he think this means?!
― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
anyway, my peoples are from bristol so lay off! you know, like 400 years ago, but still...
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Period period period (Period period period), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.cokemachineglow.com/reviews/isis_intheabsenceoftruth2006.html
― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
HUGE roffle at the second entry there.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
That's a pretty dumb thing to say, but I'm also not sure what it's doing on this thread.
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ska Punk/Ned Raggett/aNtiCHriSt (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Umm yeah, I wouldn't take "soccer" as an indication either way. It doesn't even require an editor -- I'd assume plenty of British writers submitting pieces for American publications would switch to "soccer" as a matter of course.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
"soccer" for "football", yeah. Not "jersey" for "shirt", though.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link
The rave expert featured above's Myspace.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
That line alone has earned him immortality.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Is that an MC Hammer reference?
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― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Friendly Tree (688), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm beginning to like this Marcello chap.
― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― ng-unit (ng-unit), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jordan, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― stevienixed, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― factcheckr, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― factcheckr, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― everything, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Indie Rock Music: Alternative Rock, College Radio Stations And Promotions
Published: May 22, 2007
A lot has been made over the last several years about the dominance of highly produced and commercialized pop music over the airwaves. Many purists long for the days when music was more raw and unpolished, and the indie rock music scene flourished across the United States. During the early and late 90s, there was even a push in the radio industry to make indie rock music mainstream, resulting in the smash success of bands like REM, Nirvana, Green Day, the White Stripes, and The Strokes creating the genre of Alternative Rock. Related Articles Indie Rock Bands Indie Rock Artists Indie Rock Record Labels College Radio Of course, as soon as those bands hit the big time the community that helped create them abandoned them, adding to the constant paradox that is the indie rock music scene.
The term indie rock music is a kind of misnomer. Taken at face value, indie rock music is any unsigned rock band playing shows. However, to members of the indie rock music scene, it means much more. True alternative rock has to have a kind of non-commercial stance usually with some kind of social or political message. This kind of alternative rock with a meaning has fostered the creation of the indie community which celebrates their non-commerciality and perceives major labels and those who don't share their sentimentalities as the enemy.
There are several hotbeds for this kind of underground music. Probably the most famous club for indie rock music, punk, new wave, and other kinds of underground music was New York's CBGB. CBGB was the launching point for many popular indie rock music acts like The Ramones, The Talking Heads, and Mike DeVille. In a huge blow to the indie rock music scene, CBGB has been closed since 2006, though the owner Hilly Kristal is looking to open a similar club in Las Vegas.
The last bastions for indie rock music acts to appeal to a wider audience than the local club scene are college radio stations. Given the slant of college radio away from big brand music acts and allowing its DJs to play whatever music appeals to them, indie rock music has gained a foothold in college radio stations across the country. For many acts, college radio promotion allows them to put across their musical message to the masses without the perception that they've sold out to commercial radio. For many of these acts over the years, college radio promotion has lead to such a large foothold in the public consciousness that they attract the attention and money of major record labels. For an act that is tiring of toiling in obscurity for a few hundred dollars a gig, this is often too much to pass up.
Indie rock music is both a blessing and a curse. Truly great indie rock acts can make a living touring the country playing to crowds of a few hundred with their artistic integrity intact. For a lot of bands, however, this is just not an option, and if getting the label of selling out from the indie rock music scene means that they can get a decent salary and play to big crowds, they will. The indie rock music scene is a volatile and ever changing one, but it always thrives just beneath the consciousness o f the public. Those that bemoan the lack of a good indie scene to ward off the mass market acts probably only need to look to their local clubs and bars to see the future of indie music in action.
Source: “Indie (music).” Wikipedia. 19 May 2007. 20 May 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_(music). Hibbett, Ryan. “What is Indie Rock. Find Articles.” Popular Music and Society. Feb. 2005. FindArticles. 20 May 2007. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2822/is_1_28/ai_n9507897. Peake, Steve. “College Rock - Alternative When Alternative Wasn't Commercial.” About: 80s Music. 2007. About, Inc. 20 May 2007. http://80music.about.com/od/genresmovements/p/collegerock.htm. Kristal, Hilly. "The History of CBGB." CBGB. 2007. 20 May 2007. http://www.cbgb.com/history1.htm.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 27 July 2007 09:27 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.nylonmag.com/
― Jordan Sargent, Friday, 27 July 2007 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link
any piece that uses about.com as a source loses at life.
― maura, Friday, 27 July 2007 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link
There are so many gems in that one. Indie rock music is both a blessing and a curse.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 27 July 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
"For my report I decided to write about indie rock"
― Hurting 2, Friday, 27 July 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.indieradiolive.com/
This site is a goldmine!
"With the current pop music charts mostly dominated by dance hall hits and rap music, what seemed like a new rock revolution in the late 90s lead by indie rock bands like The Vines and the White Stripes fell off in favor of more stylized acts and heavily produced pop tracks."
― Martin Van Burne, Friday, 27 July 2007 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link
WHO LOST GARAGE REVIVAL?
― Hurting 2, Friday, 27 July 2007 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
The conflation of "indie" and "alternative" is making my head hurt.
― jaymc, Friday, 27 July 2007 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, go listen to your dance hall hits and rap music, you reactionaries!
The about.com article is also informative, with helpful Smithereens recommendations.
― Martin Van Burne, Friday, 27 July 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I chuckled at this when I saw it on pfork today:
Indeed, seeing members of self-proclaimed "gypsy punks" Gogol Bordello on stage with the Material Matron during the naval gazing Live Earth festival hints that Eastern European folk-influenced rock acts may have reached maximum visibility.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 27 July 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, whatever happened to Mike DeVille?!
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 27 July 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0900entertainment/0050artsnews/tm_headline=songs-are-why-i-got-into-musical-rat-race&method=full&objectid=19724848&siteid=50082-name_page.html
This is from my local (tabloid-sized) broadsheet and the fella writing the article is a Welsh singer-songwriter. He's also the paper's CD reviewer.
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link
We got one of these threads for the 08? Ben Walsh (such a 90s lads mag journo name) decides that an Eagles review is the best place for him to desperately reassert his a) masculinity and b) love of obscure underground counter-culture acts like Neil Young.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/the-eagles-o2-centre-london-799750.html
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Dissing Level 42 = AUTOMATIC CARLIN FATWA
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link
bad writing, but where's the masculinity stuff?
― Dominique, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link
british standards of masculinity
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
the whistle only dogs can hear
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
guy goes to Eagles show, gets all mad that the band he is seeing are the Eagles
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 25 March 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd guess he's bringing up Neil Young to highlight the turns his career took after a successful period in the early 70s, how he managed to reinvent himself now and again, whereas the Eagles got kinda stale. Compare and contrast, innit. Nothing to do with Young being "obscure".
― Bodrick III, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link
The Eagles didn't get stale, they just quit.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
We got one of these threads for the 08? Ben Walsh (such a 90s lads mag journo name) decides that an Eagles review is the best place for him to desperately reassert his a) masculinity and b) love of obscure underground counter-culture acts like Neil Young.-- Dom Passantino, Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:47 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- Dom Passantino, Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:47 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link
Worst Music Reading 2008.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
^^ lives up to name
― banriquit, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
wtf, that terrible article about joshua bell busking won a PULITZER?!
― Jordan, Monday, 14 April 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
link doesn't work, but that is a little surprising. That article struck me as an unremarkable example of freakonomics journalism.
― Hurting 2, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html
― Jordan, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
They eat that Dickensian aspect shit up @ PPHQ!
― David R., Monday, 14 April 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link
http://therawness.com/fun-with-hipsters-the-digital-internet-jukebox/
Not starting a new thread just for this but jesus fucking christ.
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 11 September 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the original term for this was "wyatting."
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
that hipster article :|
― ('_') (omar little), Saturday, 4 September 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link