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I've never gotten R. Kelly. I've nothing against his singing, but I've nothing for it, either. "Pretty enough" is my most positive response, "pretty boring" my most negative. (He counts as teenpop as a producer, or whatever, right?)

― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't care for his ballads, but Ignition and I'm a Flirt are crown jewels of mainstsream R&B.

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 19 March 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

New Girl Authority album, four tracks streamed on their MySpace and one other streamed at Amazon. I don't recognize any of the five as covers, but that hardly is definitive. Think I like the one on Amazon most (mentions the name "Girl Authority" and claims "we have the power"), nice mixture of southern soul horns, w/ hints of reggae and country, nice loose drummer. Doesn't have the extra hookiness that'll get it on Radio Disney (like I would know)(like Disney's going to play something on a Rounder subsidiary). The rest aren't bad either, I guess; I like "Rhythm Of The World," which could be one of the Cheetah Girls' better tracks. (You can see me falling all over myself with enthusiasm here.)

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"U + Ur Hand" still rising on Top 40 airplay; up to number 15, slightly ahead of "This Is Why I'm Hot." (But getting less than half the spins of "It's Not Over," "What Goes Around Comes Around," "Say It Right," or "The Sweet Escape," which have owned Top 40 for a while.) "Girlfriend" starting to rise substantially, though still weak in total plays, possibly owing to "Keep Holding On" holding on above it.

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah--Spring Awakening is the first major migration of the teenpop thing into abother medium.

But you really do need to see the damned thing for it to really, but really work. And then it's pretty amazing, despite a rushed third act.

― i, grey, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

(First producer smart enough to option "A Darkness I know" for some poptress will make a mint.)

― i, grey, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Besides having a kickass score, "Spring Awakeings" is also the first production to directly engage in mindboggling refelections the multiple pederastic weirdnesses lurking around the subgenre.

I can't say how self-aware the creators are about this, but the fact remains that this is a play written by adults and scored by a guy known for sorta age-regressive pop which is about very young teens toiling under adult repression and having fairly explicit sex on-stage, then dealing with rape and incest--again, according to the imaginations of some way older guys---all while a silent chorus (!) of actual, NYC-area teens sit at the sides of the stage, taking the spectacle in.

And again with the mind boggling.

― i, grey, Monday, 19 March 2007 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My own top ten 2007 singles so far are not very teenpop, and possibly not very singles (though the ones that aren't are at least you tube clips, cuts selected for legitimate compilations, cuts on demo EPs, or first-songs-on-myspace pages, all of which fit some definition of singledom, I would think); also, the top ten is ridiculously in flux, and I'm not even sure if I've heard the "single" versions (assuming single versions exactly exist) of the top two both of which I am probably overrating no matter how you slice it otherwise, and there are hundreds of other singles I haven't heard yet, but here goes:

1. Cupid – “Cupid Shuffle”
2. Verka Seduchka – “Danzing”
3. D.B.’z featuring E-40 – “Stewy”
4. Da Muzicianz featuring the Federation – “Go Dumb”
5. The Rich and Famous – “The Rich and Famous”
6. Fabienne Shine featuring Albert Bouchard and Ross the Boss – “Dancing For Eternity”
7. Trigger Renegade – “Destroy Your Mind”
8. Miranda Lambert - “Crazy Ex-Girlfriend”
9. Avril Lavigne – “Girlfriend”
10. Christina Aguilera – “Candyman”

― xhuxk, Monday, 19 March 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The original play Spring Awakenings was written in the 1890s.

you guys should definitely check out Jon Savage's new book Teenage it comes out next month.

― m coleman, Monday, 19 March 2007 11:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I saw a review of the Savage book; looked intriguing.

Bubbling under my top 10 (#s 11 and 12 are Kogan top-of-myspace-page recommendations that could grow on me, especially "I Get Around", which is not a Beach Boys cover but is definitely about getting around and being a girl who can't say no though she knows she should; I've got a certain aversion to synthdance-oriented-rockpop these days, for some reason, though, which applies to both of these songs and may or may not eventually be overcome.) (Since I'd likely vote for albums by Lambert and Trigger Renegade and maybe the Rich and Famous if I were to vote at the moment, and I'd try to therefore avoid voting for singles off those albums for reasons of redundancy, that could give Little Birdy and Dragonette a better shot):

11. Dragonette – “I Get Around”
12. Little Birdy – “Bodies”
13. Toby Keith – “High Maintenance Woman”
14. Lloyd featuring Lil Wayne – “You”

Haven't heard the Drop The Lime remix that Frank lists; I've got their album from last year, and "Wake Up Call" sounds okay on it, but not notably more fun or insteresting than lots of what they've done. What's the remix like?

― xhuxk, Monday, 19 March 2007 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, is Rich Boy a teen? Actually, I think he's about 25, but teens are loving him, so this (by me, from the country thread!?) belongs on here too, I think:

So. Does Rich Boy's album (which I'm increasingly loving a lot of) count as country if he comes from Mobile, Alabama, and raps with an audible drawl? Probably not; I'm not hearing anything countrified on a Sparxxx/Banner/ Field Mob level in the instrumentation anywhwere. But I'm still pretty sure I like "Role Models" and "On The Regular" (and maybe "Lost Girls" and "Ghetto Rich") (and obviously "Get To Poppin,'," duh) at least as much if not more than "Thow Some D's," which is a pretty darn good hit single.

xhuxk on Saturday, March 17, 2007 8:34 AM (Yesterday)
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Rich Boy's "Touch That A**" would be more fun with less retarded words.

xhuxk on Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:14 AM (Yesterday)
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"Boy Looka Here" (cool marching band beat) also fun on the Rich Boy album. And "Hustla Balla Gangsta Mack" has New Orleans (more era than one probably -- the Meters one and the Cash Money one) in its rhythm and some lively gurl responses from Divinity, and "Let's Get This Paper" does ominousness pretty well. But "Role Models," featuring David Banner and Attitude, totally kicks like party-in-the-background frat rock as far as I'm concerned. Least enertaining tracks: "Madness" (which does ominousness shittily), "Touch That A**" (though its spare sound is okay), "What It Do".

― xhuxk, Monday, 19 March 2007 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Frank tells me Rich Boy's album has been hated on on the Rolling Snap Thread, but I haven't checked out what's said there, so I have no idea why.

― xhuxk, Monday, 19 March 2007 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got their album from last year, and "Wake Up Call" sounds okay on it, but not notably more fun or insteresting than lots of what they've done. What's the remix like?

Noisy. Funny. (Or "funny.") Should be on its way to you by couriers whom neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night will stay from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

What I've heard of Spring Awakenings doesn't sound particularly teenpop or particularly modern-day pop and rock 'n' roll even though it's written by a guy who's had pop hits. Ian's probably right that seeing it might make more sense than just listening, but it's got stage actors over-enunciating when they sing, which is what stage actors tend to do, and I haven't really liked much show music since Man Of La Mancha. And my guess is that it's audience is more adult than teen (not that I have anything against adults, being one myself, and I think that teenpop as of Ashlee a couple of years ago was far more thoughtful than the stuff that's made for actual adults, and anyway she was aiming it at anyone who would listen not just at a particular demograph).

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

To elaborate on the parenthesis of my previous post: A question not restricted to teenpop is how much difference (or what sort of difference) does it make that I'm listening to music aimed at a prime audience of which I'm not a member. This pertains to almost any music ever made, since I have a wonderful ability to feel alienated from music that someone imagines is made for someone like me. Anyway, at the moment I identify with no audience, ever since the early '80s when I stopped particularly liking or respecting postpunk music, and therefore felt a distance between its audience and me. Anyway, I generally will use music in any way I want or can, but, for instance, if I'm listening to someone speak on the telephone my hearing is enriched if I know something about what's going on at the other end of the line; but that doesn't necessarily mean that the invisible person at the other end hears or understands better than I do. And I think that in 1970-72 I understood the Rolling Stones' and Dylan's output from 1965 (when I wasn't listening to either of them) better than the mass audience those bands garnered at the time. But then, "understanding" means different things. "Understanding" can be my understanding of what the music makers are doing but it also can mean understanding what the audience does with the music - which can vary from audience member to audience member, and the same music can reach a lot of different audiences - and "understanding" can mean understanding what I can do with the music.

All of which is preamble to the fact that without Ashlee Simpson there'd be no teenpop thread, unless someone else got the idea to start it. And I know who Ashlee Simpson is singing to: she sang "So if you're listening/There's so much more to me you haven't seen," and that's a message sent out to anyone who's willing to listen, it's sent out to me, just as Hemingway's In Our Time and Faulkner's Absalom, Absalom! is written for me. Just as my book is written for you, whoever you are.

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

8. Miranda Lambert - "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend"
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9. Avril Lavigne - "Girlfriend"
=
"Crazy Next Girlfriend"

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The part about 'what you can do with it' seems like the most interesting thing to me. After I finished reading "Real Punks..." I felt like the book operated more like a box of tools than a piece of literature. Which is to say, though it wasn't a writing primer itself - it functioned similar to one. It gave you a place to begin with when discussing music. Much like Frankfurt Criticism does (which is to say: It isn't about the Tiller Girls - it /is/ about the language you use when you discuss the Tiller Girls or Ashley or Dylan, etc.)

Frank, I don't know if you're familiar with the Rent phenomenan (actually, I'm not sure if that phenomenan exists outside of my and my wife's highschool experiences) but despite the fact the play was clearly geared to adults - teens completely owned it. When I was in highschool I knew every single lyric to the play (I probably still know a bunch of it). A number of my now adult friends had the same experience, and a month ago in the Pizza shop a table of highschoolers were singing "La Vie Boheme." I'm not saying it's similar to Spring Awakening, but I wouldn't be shocked if something similar happened. Which means it was written for one group, but spoke so much more clearly to another.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

What I meant about "Spring Awakenings" is that it represents a manifestation of teenpop/emo sensibilities to B'way.

And yeah--when you see 17 year olds singing this stuff with a live band, the teenpop-ishness is accentuated. The audience at the performance I attended was the most teen-filled B'way show I ever saw, probably close to a 50/50 split between older people and kids, which led to some serious in-audience tension during the sex scene, which in turn led to lots of giggling at the intermissions.

I think the requirements of theater (narrative-in-lyrics, clarity) and the design of teenpop (the electronics, huge sound, stylized production, etec) are kind of at odds with each other in terms of what can physically be done live. I was really hoping that, when they put out the OST, they'd produce the hell outta the songs, but this is just a live thing.

Pink or Avril NEEDS to do "Totally Fucked".

― i, grey, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't know if this interests anyone but myself, but from American Jewish Life Magazine:

Screaming, young fans applauded Ashley Tisdale as she created handprints at Planet Hollywood at the release party for her debut CD, Headstrong, featuring the singles, “Be Good to Me” and “He Said She Said.” The 21-year-old singer-actress, who stars in the Disney Channel’s wildly popular High School Musical, is known for being the first female to grace the Billboard 100 chart with two songs simultaneously.

I chatted with her proud mom, Los Angelino and former New Jerseyan, Lisa Morris Tisdale. Did Ashley have a bat mitzvah? “No. She was busy working, unfortunately, on the road. She’s not totally Jewish. She’s half — my husband’s not, so she was raised a little bit of both.” Any Passover plans? “I have no idea,” she laughed. “We’re never home. We’re always traveling. So, we try to do good holidays wherever we are. And, if we’re with my mother and my family, we celebrate it with them.”

― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know if the claim is true about her being the first female to grace the Billboard 100 chart with two songs simultaneously (that doesn't make any sense, does it?). But I like the second paragraph... Jewish teenpop? ;)

― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, now, the fact that adults helped Ashlee write her material: let's say they even helped her shape her persona (though I doubt it). The nearest analogue might be stuff like Rebel Without A Cause and My So-Called Life. Those were aimed at teens, and had teen characters created and scripted by adults. The teens seem both more thoughtful and more idealistic than the adult characters, in fact (especially in Rebel) seem more capable of helping each other and helping the adults than the adults do themselves. (Perhaps if James Dean hadn't had Mr. Magoo for a father, and Natalie Wood hadn't had Paul Drake for a dad, and the only apparently sane representative of maturity hadn't been Chief from Get Smart!, my attitude would have been different.) Anyway, Rebel and Life might well be adults projecting their needs onto The Teenager, but each is touching. And I doubt that Ashlee Simpson and Kelly Clarkson needed to have their desire for reconciliation on the heels of a difficult childhood projected onto them or created for them by older people.

Let's say Kara DioGuardi rather than Ashlee conceived the idea and wrote the line, "So if you're listening, there's so much more to me you haven't seen." I doubt Kara did (why can't she do anything comparable for anyone else?), but let's pretend. I can see why it might be easier to give a line like that to a nineteen-year-old than to herself, though the line might have been just as true of herself. But coming from Ashlee it has a beautiful combined vulnerability and audacity and optimism that it probably wouldn't have coming from a thirty-three-year-old. And in a way it's an answer to the song's earlier line "Somebody listen please, it used to be so hard being me." Again, it's easier to put in the mouth of a teenager the fact both that life was recently hard and that she can put it behind her. Both could be just as true of a thirty-three-year-old, but the hard life doesn't seem so poignant and the resolution to move forward doesn't seem so possible from someone moving into middle age. And "if you're listening" makes sense coming from young Ashlee. She doesn't know what's in store for her (SNL, Orange Bowl, disappearing market), doesn't know how few will be willing to listen. At thirty-three she might well have found her listeners, or not, but either way she won't be able to project the combined uncertainty and confidence. (Or maybe she will. I at age fifty-three can feel very similar to Ashlee, but again it probably takes an eighteen-year-old to sing it.)

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

My eighteen-year-old nephew is a huge fan of Rent, and my friend Naomi's daughter posted lyrics from it last year on her MySpace (at age eleven). So I think you're right about this (though again, the term teenpop is confusing - and I'm not even sure how much it's in use anymore - since it's been hijacked to mean not teenager pop but teenybopper pop).

Avril has two songs in the Top 50 right now. So does Fergie. So does Carrie Underwood - those being the first three who come to mind. There might be more.

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

is known for being the first female to grace the Billboard 100 chart with two songs simultaneously

I think what they mean (or what the writer or rewriter misread) was that Ashley had two songs to enter the Hot 100 simultaneously (i.e., in the same week). Those would be the two Sharpay-Ryan songs from High School Musical.

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that claim true? Tisdale is the first female artist to have two songs to enter simultaneously? That always sounds really unlikely.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't seem strange, actually, since it's extremely rare for two singles by the same act to be released simultaneously, and this was something specific to the High School Musical phenomenon, which saw five or so songs enter at once. My guess is the only time it's happened with male acts is, say - this is speculation - the Beatles hit on Ed Sullivan, "I Want To Hold Your Hand" hits along with the TV appearance, and then their old singles on other labels, which had done nothing previously, all come tumbling onto the charts at once. I don't know if this happened, but it seems like the type of extraordinary circumstance in which it could.

― Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that claim true? Tisdale is the first female artist to have two songs to enter simultaneously? That always sounds really unlikely.

To clarify: Tisdale is the first female artist to have her FIRST two chart singles enter the chart simultaneously. Drew Seeley was the first artist to do the same (the prior week). Since then, I think Katharine McPhee did it. Hannah Montana/Miley had about 5 songs enter the chart at the same time, but since "Who Said" had entered the chart previously, these were not her FIRST two chart singles.

― Greg Fanoe, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost (lack of xpost notification on new ILX?)

― Greg Fanoe, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, for all I know, Ashley WAS the first female artist to have two songs debut at the same time, but all I've seen reported is the thing about the first two singles debuting simultaneously.

― Greg Fanoe, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

xp x 1,000,000

cuts selected for legitimate compilations

by which i mean tvt crunk-style comps (in this case their hyphy one) which generally seem to collect singles, to such a consistent extent that even though i can't substantiate that "stewy" and "go dumb" have ever been singles anywhere else i have to assume that they must be, or why are they here?

I've got a certain aversion to synthdance-oriented-rockpop these days

residual electroclash-overkill flashback, still. i should really get over it; it's been a long time, hasn't it? which is to say one of these days i'll no doubt realize what great bands the killers and klaxons and scissor sisters are, but not yet. i mean, i liked bands who sounded '80s new wave in, like 1995 or so. but by 2002 or whenever that was, it seemed like the dumbest cliche on earth. i have nothing against the sound per se. i'm just still sick of it, i guess.

Should be on its way to you by couriers

...who brought it today, as a matter of fact.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Greg, re: your top 10 2007 so far list --
Wasn't Candyman released last year? Also, I wonder what you're hearing on "He Said She Said" that I'm missing. Sure, the video is cute. But as much as I want to like the song - and I really want to like it because I think Tisdale is great (like in HSM) - it seems so bland and formulaic. Formulaic isn't always a bad thing, but here I can barely make out the Tisdale in the song. It sounds like it could've been anyone singing it. Also - I agree with you about 'Babies' - it's not my number 1 quite, but it's totally bananas! (And thanks for pointing out Ellis-Bextor. It's a great song.) At some point this week I'll try to post my list - either here or on the blog.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, Frank, I'd pick Tim McGraw over Teardrops on my Guitar. (I figure, since Tim McGraw didn't hit the charts till 2007, it's fair game.)

― Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Greg, re: your top 10 2007 so far list --
Wasn't Candyman released last year?

That was my top ten, I think, and it hit as a single this year (and even if didn't, there are few things as annoying as folks getting all anal about "literal release dates" on top 10s, especially when it comes to singles. On the other hand, Lloyd is gaining on Christina and I'll doubt she make my list anyway. Though then again, the literal release date for "You" was last year too, right?)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, heh heh, "Tim McGraw" (which I prefer to "Teardrops on my Guitar," too, though the latter is growing on me) hit the charts in 2006, didn't it??

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

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― lfam, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

emo/screamo is teenpop now, right?

heard this band play on the radio this morning (Wine Red). Not bad, but they should cut the guy loose and just let the girl sing.

― milo z, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost See - I decided by that post that if we're gonna be totally fluid with release dates... I'd rather post Tim McGraw than Raindrops. But yeah, Chuck, heh. I'm totally busted.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Mordy,

First, for the record here are my top 10 singles of the year so far. I don't think I posted this here yet, just on my blog.
1. Natasha Bedingfield - "I Wanna Have Your Babies"
2. Toby Keith - "High Maintenance Woman"
3. My Chemical Romance - "Famous Last Words"
4. Vanessa Hudgens - "Say OK"
5. Hilary Duff - "With Love"
6. Sophie Ellis-Bextor - "Catch You"
7. Ashley Tisdale - "He Said, She Said'
8. Christina Aguilera - "Candyman"
9. Katharine McPhee - "Over It"
10. Avril Lavigne - "Girlfriend"

Tisdale: First of all, please note that this song is not likely to make my top 20 or 30 singles of the year when the dust settles (probably will make top 50). It is generic, and there is almost no Tisdale in it. I think Tisdale, while a weak singer, can have a lot of charm as a singer (see: High School Musical, though her "Kiss The Girl" was way too sweet). Practically talking melody in the verses, on top of a fairly generic, but catchy R&B beat. The talking gives way to a really bouncy melody, hand clap percussion underlying it. Synthesizer strains build up the tension at the end of the pre-chorus, leading up to something big. Previously, we've just had one clear singer, but the chorus cuts out practically all the instrumentation except the percussion and underlies the vocals with harmonies and multiple vocal tracks, and slows it down. Rather than building up to a HUGE chorus (ala, say "Famous Last Words" or "Catch You") it takes a step back. I love the bouncy melody and the slowdown harmony chorus and the further slowdown harmony bridge. The vocals are nothing special and neither are the lyrics, which is what prevents it from going higher.

― Greg Fanoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, that out of the way

Hannah Montana's newest song is "Nobody's Perfect" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSLXHW4I3VU), and I have to say that I did not expect this at all. This would fit right on on Ashley Tisdale's album, and it's a lot more R&B-ish than any of her other songs. At the same time, it also rocks harder than any of her other songs. It's an attempt to take the normal Hannah template and inject different elements on top of it. The "everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days" part is just injected right into the middle of the song, it doesn't sound like it fits at all. This is way more out of the box than traditional Disney fare. OK, you might notice I haven't said anything about the quality of the song--I'm decidedly lukewarm on it (the melody doesn't seem to be to be anywhere near the best on her last album). If it represents Diz trying to expand the Hannah Montana sound though, I'm all for that. [Have been trying in vain to locate the songwriters on this.]

From Aly & AJ's website: "Aly & AJ are currently in the studio working on their third (and most powerful) album! Look for it in the Summer!" I wonder if by "most powerful" they mean musically or lyrically.

― Greg Fanoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah. I had seen your list on your blog. Ok - after American Idol tonight (Halley btw - wow!), I'm gonna write up my 2007-so-far list and throw it up here. But yeah, we're in agreement about Tisdale in that song - there's much less of her than in some of her other songs.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I've posted my thoughts on American Idol on the AI thread, but I have to say that Jordin Sparks' "I Who Have Nothing" was amazing! One of my favorite Idol performances I've seen to date.

― Greg Fanoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Where's the American Idol thread? Anyway, my top 10 singles so far this year (in no particular order):

1. Avril Lavigne - Girlfriend
2. R Kelly - Flirt
3. Taylor Swift - Tim McGraw
4. Natasha Bedingfield - Babies
5. Fallout Boy - This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race
6. The Klaxons - Atlantis to Interzone
7. Lloyd ft. Lil Wayne - You
8. D.B.’z featuring E-40 – Stewy
9. Bright Eyes - Four Winds
10. The Stooges - Free and Freaky / The Stooges - My Idea of Fun

The normal all-over assortment of singles. No particular order, though some are more heavily weighted than others. I can't imagine Bright Eyes, Bedingfield, Lloyd, or Bright Eyes making it to the end. Also, if Spring Awakening OST had a single, it would certainly be on the list. Also, I like both Stooge's singles equally, though my preference is for "My Idea of Fun" slightly over "Free and Freaky" but not enough to not list both - also, I don't like either well enough to give them their own slot. Together they earn slot 10. Any other caveats... oh, yeah. Swift is the cheater listing, because it was a single in 2006 - but it didn't hit charts until 2007. So I'm counting it. Na-na-na-boo-boo.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha. I listed Bright Eyes twice as not making it. I guess that makes it doubly-true. I actually meant to include the Klaxons in my list of songs I can't imagine making it - unless it really starts to grow on me more than it has already.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone have a copy of Jordan Sparks singing "I Who Have Nothing?" I can't seem to dig one up.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Thursday, 22 March 2007 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Mordy,

You can always find the performances on Youtube (this one is here http://youtube.com/watch?v=OzkNMiKjrGU). Now you can download the studio versions and video clips (for pay) from the American Idol site too, if you so desire (http://downloads.americanidol.com/). As for some kind of mp3 for download, I cannot help there.

― Greg Fanoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Mordy, "Tim McGraw" was all over the country charts in late 2006 (I was hearing it on country radio as early as October if not September) but didn't peak until January 2007, so you can always vote for it on the criterion of its "having its greatest impact" in 2007, though that might be a stretch. I voted for Aly & AJ's "Rush" for 2006, even though it already had over a month of Radio Disney airplay in late 2005; the vid and its presence beyond Radio Disney didn't happen until 2007, so that was one of my rationalizations for voting for it; also that it remained a dominant song on Disney for many months into 2006.

― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

American Idol Thread hiding over on I Love Everything. But if there are any exceptional performances feel free to link them here. Or talk all you want to about AI over here, I don't mind. I gave up on it several weeks ago, since I didn't think any of the singers was anything special, but Jordin doing "I Who Have Nothing" is nice - not close to being up there with Carrie covering Tiffany and sounding totally Carrie in doing so; but it was a good version of the song.

― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Stream the new Hilary album. You might have to enter yr email address, but I'm pretty sure you can give 'em a fake one. Can't tell the sound quality at the moment cuz I'm not on my own computer.

― dabug, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

For idol performances, use rickey.org

― Tape Store, Friday, 23 March 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Stream the new Hilary album.

They're streaming 24kb/s MP3s, so the sound quality's crummy. Fantastically rippable, though!

On first listen, I'm underwhelmed. Less than underwhelmed. The production starts out all 1997 and meanders back to 1985, and not in a good way.

― Nia, Friday, 23 March 2007 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link

The low-quality stream drove me away; all the bass was coming out cruddy and fuzz-toned (though I think Kara was going for a lot of fuzz-toned bass anyway). Problem is that I compare everything to "Come Clean." Can we rescue John Shanks from mediocre country and dull singer-songwriter adults and bring him back to teenpop?

― Frank Kogan, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

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