Minimal house bobbins 2007

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HI DERE. I got in first.

I don't own any minimal from 2007 yet. So tell me.

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link

you are the most minimal of us all!

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

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jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I really hoped the threads might merge a bit this year :/

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

http://eil.com/newgallery/Paul-McCartney-Ebony--Ivory-61340.jpg

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

bless this thread

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Really tempted to buy this

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i was sorely disappointed with the new for disco only. luciano has really been sucking the past couple releases.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

that split with EAT wasn't much (thrown into stark relief by listening to Wheetamix last night)

jergins (jergins), Thursday, 4 January 2007 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

amerie amirite

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

rite

jergins (jergins), Thursday, 4 January 2007 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah FDU is lame. A is like a crap version of CC's Angola remix. B is... well, let's just not go there. his use of the Mercedes Sosa song in live sets is *much* more effective than tossing it over a D-grade cutting room floor backing track.

on the plus side, his new production Keridos was hammered throughout 2006, and it's fantastic. full samples htm">here

people need to start talking about Leonel Castillo. his release on Sushitech is superb. a fresh twist on the Cadenza sound. the one on Hometown is pretty good too, if a little drier.

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

dunno what happened there. samples: http://www.cadenzarecords.com/content/releases/release_upcoming.htm

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

only 07 i have so far is marcin czubala's new one on mobilee....maybe a few other promos once I begin you know...doing stuff...again

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

can someone tell me more about Force of Nature? i got the Traderoute/Straight Ahead 12" and it is really making my morning. is this shit really that hard to get in the US? the dude at halcyon made it seem that way.

hey a, can you put those samples up? where to go.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

admittedly, FoN aren't strictly minimal house.... but fuck it, such rules is stupid.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

xposts. Agh, new mobilee, I was doing such a good job on catching them all until about 10. I'm now way behind.

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the samples are on the link I posted? I can't really be bothered linking all 8 of them but here's Keridos - http://www.cadenzarecords.com/mp3/csc001-a1.m3u

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xposts re:FoN
New LP "III" is where those are from, it's good, esp. the last track "Liberate" which is a beautiful piece of pacific ocean music.
Met them this summer on their first foray out of Japan and I can testify KZA plays a mean midtempo straight-up acid techno DJ set.

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"Liberate" > "Digital Love"

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

thx blunt, that is sort of the idea that i got from listening to a few of their 12s. i am really into 'traderoute.'

anyway, what about this: the Sabu Martinez 'Body to Body' 12" on Mellotronen? a-side sounds like what 'Africolaps' could have been if executed better. i don't know shit about this guy, just picked it randomly and am sooo enamored.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that this thread has happened already.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

it warms my cockles.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I think this question falls under this thread, but if not, my apologies. I'm finally getting around to all the stuff I bought at Tower in mid-December (managed to catch the "all dance for $1" part of the sale before the good stuff had been cleaned out), and am wondering if a couple of things are worth keeping, or should I trade them in locally for $4-5 and get something else. When everything only cost a dollar, I basically grabbed anything that was slightly familiar. The two things I'm wondering about are Tiefschwarz - Eat Books and Losoul - Getting Even. It looks like from the previous house thread that people don't like the Tiefschwarz. Losoul appears to be decent. I haven't opened either one yet.

Stingy (stingy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i like losoul's stuff on the playhouse comps, really soulful house, even some beatless tracks with just synth and voice

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

agreed bout the losoul. tiefschwarz, imo, can suck it.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I'll trade in Tiefschwarz and get Immer 2 then.

Stingy (stingy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

"damage" on the tiefschwarz album is worth keeping it for.

dh (djh), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

haha i'm listening to the song ricardo remixed for fizheuer... it's actually better untouched

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fgsmai

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

way to strip all of the interesting and fun parts out

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

better luck not crediting your sources next time!

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Enough of this Ricardo bashing!

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I read discogs also.

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

;)

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of which I still haven't found Matthew Dear's "Hand's Up For Detroit"!

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

5l5k lamers

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

let's just go back to bashing tiefschwarz then

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

that Losoul album is no Belong. maybe worth $1 though.

lf, I read your comment on discogs re FZ w/ interest: "okay in the right hands on the dancefloor as the sun comes up". so which dancefloor was that on, exactly?

snide, yes, sorry. obviously it's not your fault you live in America. but if you'd experienced FZ in such a setting (and unknowingly), I doubt you'd be be so offended by it. it's obviously tossed off, but that doesn't stop it from being an effective idea. would you have such a problem with it if it hadn't been officially released/critically reamed by boutique stores?

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

so, if i had actually heard the song in the hypothetical situation i said it would be good in, then i wouldn't think it sucked? wow.

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"okay" -- such generous praise. phrasing so obviously hypothetical. but if that's the way you want to play, let's forget it.

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not really hard to conceptualize the element of surprise and imagine how refreshing FZ would sound on a late-night / early morning dancefloor especially if you've done that and felt super worn out and been revitalized by a song... doesn't mean it's much of a song. erotic discourse was like that for me. i absolutely loved it when i heard it out but when i listened at home it was pretty boring.

i'm glad you're "interested" though

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

like, i would never recommend erotic discourse to anyone but a dj, same goes for FZ

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

point being that it doesn't need to be "much of a song". I don't think it necessarily should have been released, but I've had enough unforgettable moments with it to love it to pieces.

that's better than "otherwise it sucks".

xpost -- think we're on the same page, only my page is more drug damaged

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of Erotic Discourse (which i HATE), does anyone else like Audiojack's Robot? it basically sounds like a chopped up remix of ED so I know I probably shouldn't, but I can't help myself. maybe cos I've heard it out (never have with ED).

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe he (and Playhouse) just felt like making some cash... I'm sure his reputation will survive this controversial move :P

the question is would pobjenicki cocek work at 5am on the dancefloor for a techno crowd?

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

if you stuck Sensational Beats underneath it, sure

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

5am's a bit early though ;)

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

bla bla bla fizheuer bla CAN WE MOVE ON NOW PLEASE

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(ps- lf is right.)

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i really like the huckaby but the mr fingers aping side beats the dub techno one i reckon.

i actually think a lot of this limited business is quite overstated. i doubt the huckaby is ltd 500, for example. and 'limited' to one thousand copies is actually quite meaningless, especially in such an increasingly saturated marketplace. there are a few cases where you have to grab the release the first couple of weeks it's out or it's gone, but i find they're the exception rather than the rule.

resolved, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

can we please just have a unified electronical dancing music thread in 08?

I vote no.

jim, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

resolved: Then I suppose my problem is actually finding a place to buy them.

jim: Did anyone actually use any thread other than this one for there general dance music discussion? There was an electro-house one but it got about 30 posts all year I think.

matt2, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, all this stuff is much easier to find in the UK

resolved, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed. And Dope Jams gives the impression that they can't get stuff like that Mike Huckaby and the cv313 on echospace back in stock. In fact I asked about the cv313 specifically. And I can't imagine the Claro Intelecto and a few of the Deep Chord ones on Modern Love aren't sold out since even boomkat is out of stock.

matt2, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

the deepchord ones on modern love will get repressed... the CI is a different matter since it did have a very limited run (350 or something right? and not lying like mr huckaby) so that's one of the exceptions. (as is that new one sided echospace thing on modern love out this week)

resolved, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

and as for the cv313, rub a dub in glasgow distributes the echospace detroit releases and still has copies available

resolved, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks for the link resolved. I with the pound/dollar situation didn't make it $22 for one record and shipping but thanks for the heads up anyway.

matt2, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Tipped off by Test Industries, I am listened to The centre of time by Bodycode, from his new record on Yore, and yes so far it's really good. Bodycode has such a unique sound, I loved he track he did on the first Death is Nothing to Fear record on Spectral. Rich sounds, jarring rhythms, and like I said, a really unique sounds. He's not too unlike Oner Ozur or Tolga Fidan, in that they synthesize traditional music styles (in their case of Turkey, rather than South Africa for Bodycode) into really really interesting techno.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link

God, I have to proofread my posts.
Either way, I suppose I have like 4 days or so to finalize my top 40-or-so tracks of the year list, and then make a subsequent megamix of them all. I suppose this is telling of the fallacy of year end lists, in that it tends to be 'fuck all' until one week in, like, mid-November, leaving everything between then and January to fall into the abyss. Well, maybe for armchair techno fans like myself.

P.S. anyone have anything to say about Please Please Please by Tobias Thomas, because I read a description of it today and it sounded really interesting ( 12 minutes of ambience, half of V. Delay's Huone - one of my absolute favourite tracks! - this could be terrible or amazing).

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 06:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Echospace has been really killing it for me recently.

Also, about the Dinky Get Lost 3....at least from what I know, this is not going to be officially released for a while. Crosstown Rebels lost their distributor? I was supposed to interview Dinky about it, but because of the delay, it couldn't fit in the issue.

the table is the table, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 07:44 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post. please please please is, at times, my favourite album of the year.
quite measured and deliberate. treat yourself.

djh, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link

the dinky mix is great woozy psychedelic house, definitely the best in the series so far. it's all about Paulo Olarte – Solu Tu (Isolee Remix) which i hadn't heard until this mix, a really amazing track.

r1o natsume, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

re. the dinky mix: for me it's all about Radio Slave's 'Bell Clap Dance'. has anyone played this out? it looks like it should rock any dancefloor - especially when those over the top rave synths come in.

sam500, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

re: please please please, this is the album i'll be recommending to convert non-dance pals for the next few months. wonderful

lucas pine, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Radio Slave's 'Bell Clap Dance'

really cool track. for me this is the first Rekids release where the A side is stronger than the remix. haven't played/heard it out yet.

one time, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Radio Slave's 'Bell Clap Dance'

glad i'm not the only one. the central riff that runs through it gives the track real forward momentum (and a bit of drama).....unlike some of the stodgy minimal i've heard recently.

sam500, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess we should be discussing this in mr. sherburne's specially created rekids thread!

sam500, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

P.S. anyone have anything to say about Please Please Please by Tobias Thomas, because I read a description of it today and it sounded really interesting ( 12 minutes of ambience, half of V. Delay's Huone - one of my absolute favourite tracks! - this could be terrible or amazing).

It's Für Dich, Thomas' first Kompakt mix, that contains "Huone."

Andy K, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i've played out "bell clap dance" a ton, it always works wonders. killer track.

pshrbrn, Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

the audion remix of dubfire's "i feel speed" is so great, on some delirious detuned sawtooth carnival madness

r1o natsume, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

with a "french kiss" style breakdown to boot!

r1o natsume, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I sincerely hope that this doesn't mean that he put in orgasm samples!

Speaking of Audion remixes, along with his Olga Dancekowski remix, which is sounding really really great after some initial ambivalence, his remix of Electrostatic by Terece Fixmer is really excellent, probably one of the best remixes of him I've heard. Is it just me, or does Audion kind of make you think of Phuture. I can tell things like Acid Trax very much inform his productions.
Also, re: the 27 minute Jesse Somfay track. Haven't listened to it in full, but it's not unlike the Field on a rather aggressive day. It probably should be listened to in full though.

mehlt, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

no it just slows down. another great track i have been enjoying this week is dan ghenacia & chris carrier "tumble blur". speaking of phuture, it kinda reminds me of "rise from your grave" with those chord stabs. this is exactly the kind of "deep" direction i'd like minimal to go in, percussive, hypnotic and sensual (much like the arpiar, mountain people and recent liebe detail stuff, and also oslo who i have just discovered (thanks for the tip ronan!)), as opposed to the bigger more explicit deepness of say innervisions. see also the excellent tobias remix of "lohn & brot"

r1o natsume, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

the new bruno pronsato, seems to be a slightly more emotionally direct version of the restless, twitchy, brooding, slightly mysterious 'vibe' of harem-era villalobos (think 'hireklon' and 'miami'). this verdict is delivered after hearing 3 tracks, mind you.

jermainetwo, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

there's a comma in there that shouldn't be.

jermainetwo, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I am enjoying the Guillame and the Coutu Dumonts track that came out on Oslo a lot.. I will definitely be checking the other releases on this label.

Am anxiously awaiting the arrival of a big order that includes the new Jichael Mackson and Mountain People - hopefully it will turn up before Christmas! Does anyone have an opinion on the new sebo k mobilee record? I haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

Bee En Juan, Thursday, 13 December 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

now listening to a stream of the sydenham mix of 'space katzle' - so lush and pretty!

jermainetwo, Thursday, 13 December 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

jermainetwo, you just made me go and buy that pronsate record. i am a sucker for that sound.

the table is the table, Saturday, 15 December 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

also, perhaps worth mentioning that my best of 2007 list (with mp3s) is up now here

the table is the table, Saturday, 15 December 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

would you go to a party called latin brutality?

rizzx, Saturday, 15 December 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

hell yes!

pshrbrn, Saturday, 15 December 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

hah should i post the line up?

it's new years eve

rizzx, Saturday, 15 December 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

also, most Fleetwood Mac songs would make great minimal house bobbins hooks

rizzx, Saturday, 15 December 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

also, most Fleetwood Mac songs would make great minimal house bobbins hooks
Heh, to return to Please Please Please again, it's apparently finished off by a Thomas/Geiger remix of a cover of "Dreams".

and Re: B. Pronsato, I wanted to compare "At Home I'm a Tourist" to Villalobos, but was scared off by the prospect of it sounding like one of many thoughtless everything-exists-in-relation-to-villalobos statement, so I'm glad it's not just me. It sounds like Villalobos with a sense of humour in a way, the same wild unrepetitive rhythmic patterns, strokes of melody which sound out of place, but fit in perfectly, but he doesn't take it too seriously. Not to say anything about either one's approach to production, but their principles are very similar, but B.P. are much more whimsical and childlike. verdict, really quite good, but you have to be in a certain mood for it.

mehlt, Saturday, 15 December 2007 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link

hey Solomun's 'Keep Control' is nice and thick just how i like it

jergïns, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

^^came out in august. man, i've been playing catchup all year

jergïns, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, I'm listening to the mix October made of his own released and forthcoming productions that was posted on Tape and 15 minutes in (of about 35 minutes) it's REALLY good. For fans of Thomas Melchior!

mehlt, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Listened to the whole thing and it's consistently amazing! Sorry to make that quick, kind of vulgar really, Melchior comparison, but he takes a lot of stylistic and production tips from him, but with a touch of dub-techno aesthetics. Like Melchior playing in Berghain maybe? Either way, beautiful.

And, errr, not that anyone cares I,m sure but my end of the year tracks list avec megamix has now been committed to ilm

mehlt, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Is this Pronsato album available on CD or MP3?! I'm having trouble finding it on Boomkat etc...

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Heh, to return to Please Please Please again, it's apparently finished off by a Thomas/Geiger remix of a cover of "Dreams".

Unfortunately, it's almost unlistenable.

lou, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed.

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

In fact the last 20 minutes or so of that mix is very disappointing.

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't believe the Pronsato will be out til January. It'll be CD and 2LP, and I can't imagine it won't be MP3 as well.

pshrbrn, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

hello? repeat = no digital releases. the first few things were but they decided to go back on it. (they may well flip flop back again, i supppose)

resolved, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks! I was wondering why I couldn't find it anywhere.

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

well, yeah, i didn't actually go out and buy the pronsato record.

tho i put in a request for a review copy.

the table is the table, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

ah no kidding? bummer, i didn't know that. someone wants to me more like perlon! (heh, just kidding.)

pshrbrn, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Since I imagine not many people are checking the other thread I posted this in, I was wondering if anyone here could possibly identify this just beautiful track, which I've been trying to identify since the summer. I thought it might be Joel Mull, but I've checked a lot of his tracks and haven't found it. Theres a minute long sample you can stream here

P.S. Daniel Bell is an entirely remarkable DJ! (although I'm sure you all know this already) He played for free for 5 hours in a 200 or so person capacity bar here, w/out guestlist or anything of the sort (this might be the most admirable thing any promoter in Toronto has done since I've started going to events)

mehlt, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

that Chloe albums pretty decent isn't it!

keep going back for more..

fandango, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link


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