Who will listen to another Courtney Love "comeback record"?

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"Courtney Love's name should be right next to Bob Dylan when they say 'best lyricist of all time.'" - Linda Perry

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll listen to it... I wouldn't say I'm excited for it (I was excited for AMERICA'S SWEETHEART and that was total trash bar 1 or 2 songs), but I've always liked Courtney.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll listen to it! linda's going a little overboard with the dylan thing, but count me in as a cl fan. i think this record's going to be her live through this pt. 2 -- more acoustic-grungy and raw-nervy than any of her stuff from celebrity skin onward.

the orchid and the wasp (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

dom passantino

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll admit that BBC documentary (which I watched in 6 parts on YouTube) has piqued my interest. I think it's going to be more along the lines of Live Through This.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Shakey - Link for that quote?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

The folks at Kill Rock Stars must be shaking their heads right now.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

quote is from story on the front page of cnn.com.

ILM in gluttons for punishment non-shocker

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, go whack off to your rachael ray rape fantasy

the orchid and the wasp (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ANSWER:

ILM

roc u like a § (ex machina), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/30/music.love.reut/index.html

she can sing.

oh my GOD, can she sing

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

its less a rachel ray rape fantasy and more of an idle spoonula daydream

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"Drugs make you an a******."

an asterisk?

StanM (StanM), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i would listen to it! i would not necessarily expect to enjoy or like it though.

courtney love's lyrics are in a different league to bob dylan's. not just because they're good - though they mostly are, even recently - but because dylan's are trite platitudinous hippie bullshit. most lyrics are better than dylan's. except joan osborne.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

but Lex she plays GUITAR

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

that's fine! she's a girl.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, I'll listen to it, courtney is great. def one of the best lyricists out there

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"I WENT TO SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWL
IN OL-IM-PEE-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Her last comeback record was great, why would this be any different. As for Dylan's "trite platitudinous hippie bullshit", what the hell are you talking about? Have you ever even listened to Dylan? Hippie Bullshit!

dan. (dan.), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

personally I don't think she's penned a decent lyric since Good Sister/Bad Sister

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Courtney was best when she was ripping off Bauhaus and Babes In Toyland. To this day, still.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Her last record was pretty good, so, yeah, count me in.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm already giddy with anticipation. I dunno about Dylan, but I've already gone on the record that Courtney Love, lyricist >>>>>> Kurt Cob1an, lyricist.

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup. Chuck Eddy to thread!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

bob dylan was never ever ever a hippie. i mean you might as well call randy fuckin newman a hippie.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

hah, like the lex would know who randy newman is

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

courtney is much more interesting these days for being a plastic surgery casualty, her days as a credible musician/artist are probably behind her

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked her last record. In fact, I like all her records, really. That doesn't mean we need any more records from her, but I'll be happy to leech a promo.

I just hope she stays clean and quiet, so that I don't have to witness people defending her addictions and resulting asinine behaviors.

I hope she doesn't kill herself, either.

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Courtney who?

vartman (novaheat), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno about Dylan, but I've already gone on the record that Courtney Love, lyricist >>>>>> Kurt Cob1an, lyricist.

can i get on that record too?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, hey
you know what to do
oh, baby drive away to malibu

(granted, dylan's had his share of groaners)

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i liked her better when she was still collaborating with pat maley. *wink*

dream torture (blood bitch), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man. OH MAN. Diane Sawyer just interviewed her on Good Morning America. Mortifying.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

She was coherent but clearly buzzed on something.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

In another era, the folks at GMA probably woulda never let her on the morning shows quite so drugged up, but now I suspect they're hoping for viral video circulation.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I am looking forward to this album... "America's Sweetheart" was such a bubblegum thrill (ie, it lots its taste for me after about 13 months) that I can't see her doing that again. I worry if Perry's still on board it's going to be lots of ISSUEZ BASED ANGZT which is probably the last thing Courtney needs to do right now. She needs something vaguely contemporary (emo marching band sounds) over something she's comfortable with (Fleetwood Mac coke AOR). Actually she should just let the Scissor Sisters write an album for her and do some kinda faux-drag act.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, if only.

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, hey
you know what to do
oh, baby drive away to malibu

what's wrong with this? malibu is a fantastic song!

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the best songs ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

people were talking about her genius as a lyricist, song itself is fine

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The only problem with "Celebrity Skin" is Courtney was listening to too much fucking Pavement at the time and thought it'd be cute to do all that Malkmus "Forgot your cryptic crossword on the tube? Try this!" shit. It isn't.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

What are you talking about? Fuck Pavement! It's obvious that solo Stevie Nicks and Cheap Trick were on her stereo.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

She said in a couple of interviews around the time of the album that although Fleetwood M were the obvious sonic influence on the album (apparently that was Corgan's idea, not her's... no, I don't buy that either), the lyrics were deliberately Pavement-y. Select Magazine, ...July? 1999 edition.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link

people were talking about her genius as a lyricist

And they was right!

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, YOU know what to do

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link

That's "you know WHAT to do" - the problem may be your ear?

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

But srsly, if you want to go after her on the lyrical front, you could find easier targets than "Malibu."

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i think YOU missed the point of my last post, but never no mind

i don't really care one way or the other about CL (esp. in 2006), i just always found that lyric lazy/throw away (but maybe that's what people like about it)

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Courtney plugging new book on THE VIEW yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5tsx_2WLH8

If someone can find the Good Morning America thing, post it.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i listened to 'malibu' yesterday, it really is astonishingly great. i don't understand what's wrong with that lyric either, it doesn't seem lazy or throwaway.

i heard it for ages as "baby drive away from malibu" in the first chorus, and thereafter "baby drive away to malibu".

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 November 2006 09:36 (seventeen years ago) link

The eatery is called Hiro, and it’s synonymous with the way Courtney Love is feeling these days. She didn’t die. She became a hero.

WOW...

Stevie D, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

The lyrics are "defined, hummable and well-constructed"?

Count me in amongst the America's Sweetheart fans.

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha well it is fox. this was linked on courtneylove.com btw

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Pacific Coast Highway still gets stuck in my head sometimes and I've only heard a short clip. Closest to something like "Malibu," if you haven't heard it.

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

In “PCH,” Courtney sings — maybe to her dead husband Kurt Cobain, who committed suicide by shooting himself in the mouth —- “I’m up on Pacific Coast Highway/With your gun in my hand.”

*barf* still pimpin that corpse eh

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

You'd rather she become Mary Poppins?

But more pressingly:
"Should opera legend and ultimate New Yorker Beverly Sills’ memorial service be full of music or speeches? Should it be produced by the Metropolitan Opera, her manager or best friend Barbara Walters? And was Walters even her best friend?"

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I'd rather she retire and raise her kid and stop clamoring for attention from the rest of us like some sort of needy-attention-whore-robot

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, go whack off to your rachael ray rape fantasy

-- the orchid and the wasp (Jody Beth Rosen)

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost

Me too! I hate when celebrities clamor for my attention rather than devote themselves to full-time child-rearing!

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

name one guy someone says "he should go raise his kid instead of having a career." about.

PS Frances Bean is like 15, dude. You'd rather she wait three years?

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

name one celebrity guy who's a single dad who's also a drug addict prone to violent outbursts

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

altho we all know lolz anyone who dares to criticize courtney is a mysogynist amirite

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

so a drug addict prone to violent outbursts should be spending more time with her kid.

No Shakey, that's pretty specifically "get back in the kitchen" type stuff

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I see you didn't "get" the irony of me posting a picture of a barefoot woman (that people like to think is my "rape fantasy") in the kitchen

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

No Shakey, that's pretty specifically "get back in the kitchen" type stuff

*yawn* tell it to Patti Smith. Or Exene Cervenka. Or any of the women from the Diggers etc.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post
you can't see her feet in that pic

The difference there is I'm still interested in Courtney Love's music.

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost Did those women retire to raise their children because you told them to?

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha seriously give us a fucking break

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Meanwhile in teh Courtney'back stakes: another year, another Love record unlistened-to.

t**t, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Did those women retire to raise their children because you told them to?

most adults manage to make perfectly capable decisions without my personal input. Unfortunately, Courtney does not appear to be such an adult.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

and if Courtney has already been "attention-whoring" around for the past 15 years, a lot of good retiring NOW would do. That kid is basically grown. Maybe I could see your Patti Smith analogy if she was still a baby.

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

she needs to intervene now before Frances Bean ends up in a band with Sean Lennon and Wolfgang Van Halen

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I hung out with my parents a grand total of 20 minutes from 15-18. Read in an interview somewhere, FBC is like a theater kid or something, she's not going in for that sort of thing.

marmotwolof, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

The reason CL should stay away from making music is because it inevitably puts her in situations that her drug-addled persona cannot handle well. She should retire for herself first and her family second.

Either way, I totally look forward to hearing her latest music for free.

Dandy Don Weiner, Monday, 23 July 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah that's a good point, don. i can't wait to hear the record, but she seems to fall off the wagon or further off it every time she makes one..

daria-g, Monday, 23 July 2007 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link

This is gonna be my album of the year for sure.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 08:15 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

So it seems this should come out pretty soon. Anyone interested at this point?

baaderonixx, Monday, 5 January 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Sure. What the hell.

Soukesian, Monday, 5 January 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm interested!!

lex pretend, Monday, 5 January 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I honestly don't see the point of her coming out with anything other than a fucking Bette Midler album at this point.

The boy with the Arab money (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 5 January 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Standards, Vol. 1

Eazy, Monday, 5 January 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

It's been coming out soon for, like, two years, so why looking forward to it now?

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 January 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

um, which is to say: It's been coming out soon for, like, two years, so why STOP looking forward to it now?

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 January 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm looking forward to it.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Soukesian, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 08:59 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost: because now I can't quite get the Courtney-Bette thing out of my head.

Soukesian, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

lol wrong thread

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Friday, 30 January 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, not entirely.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 30 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

where is RIP thread

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 January 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

whoever's courtney's got working for her has done an excellent job of killing every link to demos for "nobody's daughter" - all of my search efforts this morning has been for naught.

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

have been

still waking up over here...

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Great new songs "You Know My Name" and "Wedding Day"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFUF7ktTJFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316ZjRu-UEM

also, this lol exchange

Pitchfork: It does seem like everyone from Hole has been busy: I saw Patty's band Upset earlier this year, and I was at Melissa's venue Basilica Hudson in upstate New York last year, and I read Eric's book a couple of years ago.

CL: Melissa's a real avid Pitchfork reader. Patti knows every single thing that's still going on with Drag City and Razor & Tie and every little label. Brody Dalle from Distillers was telling me how there are lots of cool little labels, which I'm not up on because I don't read Pitchfork everyday. I read Jezebel a lot. I've tried to tweet you guys and kiss your ass, but the dude in Portland just doesn't like me. So I'm like, "OK, fine."

Pitchfork: Portland?

CL: Isn't it based in Portland?

Pitchfork: No, we're in Brooklyn and Chicago.

CL: Oh! I see, I see. I mixed it up with "Portlandia".

how's life, Friday, 2 May 2014 11:01 (ten years ago) link

these are actually good, these new songs!

and lol @ courtney <3

lex pretend, Friday, 2 May 2014 11:46 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

I can't listen to it at the moment.

http://www.stereogum.com/1802312/courtney-love-miss-narcissist/mp3s/

turlte party (how's life), Monday, 18 May 2015 12:11 (eight years ago) link

Blimey this thread is full of wonder, isn't it just?

Mark G, Monday, 18 May 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

I am way into this

Evan R, Monday, 18 May 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Not that this is an especially tall bar to clear, but I'm betting this is the best new track we'll hear from a '90s alternative veteran this year

Evan R, Monday, 18 May 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link


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