Dean Martin: s/d?

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I recently bought this box, which pretty much covers Dino's recording career from it's beginning in 1946 to 1955, and I'm enjoying it quite a lot. There's several forgettable tunes of course, like the couple where Jerry Lewis "sings" (was that really considered funny even back then?), but there's also, for example, two great duets with Nat King Cole that I've never even heard about. Now I'm wondering, where to go next? What post-1955 stuff should I look for? There's a kazillion different collections and reissues around, I don't know what's essential and what's not.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Martin & Lewis' musical numbers on TV and films were often really nice (they could both hoof decently, for one).

I have The Capitol Collectors Series, but that's only 20 tracks, half of which you've got.

Some of the country albums are allegedly pretty good, but I don't own any.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I remember liking the musical numbers as a kid, but I think you have to see the performance to enjoy them. Just to hear Lewis's squeaky mock singing is pretty irritating, plus at least on one of the tracks (The Money Song) they've speeded up his voice chipmunk-stylee. Which is a pity, 'cause it's a nice tune, I would've liked to hear Martin perform it by himself.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 26 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Look for a Reprise best of. Not as good as the Capital stuff, but plenty of highpoints all the same.

Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

I highly recommend Nick Tosches's Dean Martin bio. Never in a million years had I thought I'd even care to read anything about the man, but the Tosches book is just stunning.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

Search: the Dean Martin Variety Shows DVDs. There are a few clips on those discs taken from so-called specials in the early 80s where Dean looks old, tired and somewhat bewildered, but the vast majority of it (from the mid-late 60s and early 70s) is just stunning, not to mention hilarious.

I think doctors should be able to prescribe these DVDs to patients diagnosed with depression - I just can't help but grin whenever I see him on the screen. Dean was a far funnier comedian than Jerry Lewis, and that is true. He could also sing rather well.

Destroy: Practically nothing pre-1973.

You could do a lot worse than just buying the rest of those box sets. There's another three in the series, IIRC. All great.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 27 October 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

Dean was a far funnier comedian than Jerry Lewis

Disagree totally, but Dean was hilarious and at their best they were truly a TEAM -- which was usually obliterated in nearly all their films. Search the budget DVDs of their TV Colgate Comedy Hours, where they pretty much go off-script in every single sketch and have a blast doing it.

The Dean '70s variety shows are compelling for his completely unrehearsed brio (and the caveman sexism).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

is there a matt helm dvd boxed-set? i would totally buy that if i saw it. i love watching dino in the movies. even really bad movies.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

oh, just hit any old thrift store and pick up anything...i own more dean than i should...but its all cheap old records and i coldn't really tell one disc from another, as ive never been bothered to think it important. just run with it...pick up a bunch, mix a cactail and just stroll on.

bb (bbrz), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

The Fall covered "Houston" a couple of albums back. . . .

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Saturday, 28 October 2006 07:05 (nineteen years ago)

Does it have his Rio Bravo duet with Ricky Nelson?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 28 October 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

ten months pass...

little ole wine drinker me.

if you don't like this song you're no friend of mine.

pisces, Sunday, 23 September 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

I thought that was Robert Mitchum... well, maybe they both did that song.

Rich Smörgasbord, Monday, 24 September 2007 09:16 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

What's the best Dean Martin compilation? My brother asked for something from him and I'm not sure which period or what compilation to get.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

(knew i have to go through this one day)

the most extensive & still available collection i found so far,
all on Bear Family International. don't look at the price tag.

Memories Are Made Of This 8-CD & 84-P.BOOK /224 tracks
(complete recordings from 1946 to 1955)

Return To Me 1956-1961 8-CD & 84-PAGE-BOOK /220 tracks
("These two 8 CD boxed sets contain all of Dean Martin's recordings for Capitol, Diamond, Apollo, and Embassy.")

Everybody Loves Somebody 6-CD/1DVD & BOOK /161 tracks + DVD
(1962-1966)

Lay Some Happiness On Me 6-CD/1DVD & BOOK /153 tracks + radio spots + DVD
(1966-1985)

dupes found (probably different recordings):
White Christmas
Winter Wonderland
Let It Snow! Let It Snow!
The Things We Did Last Summer
Silent Night
Silver Bells
I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now
Only Forever
Once In A While

meisenfek, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

best

deems irreverent (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

seven years pass...

"Let It Snow! Let It Snow!" is the kinda thing that fits his attitude/chops perfectly

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

ditto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64DXeib1u9E

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:58 (six years ago)

i've read that martin and lewis did their best stuff in their stage show -- sadly little of it seems to have been filmed.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 December 2019 22:09 (six years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/just-how-good-a-singer-was-dean-martin

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:16 (three years ago)

I'm watching all the Martin & Lewis films in order now (so far up to Three Ring Circus from 1954), and most of the points I could make about Martin are made in that dailybeast piece. Dean always sang well, but not always quality material, and often not in a respectable setting/context. Many of the tunes in the films are presented as if they're just slightly above a joke. The "That's Amore" sequence from The Caddy, however, is delightful and exhilarating - by far the best musical interlude to that point in their filmography.

There are some gems among his Reprise records from 1964 on, but noticeably diminishing returns as the '60s wind down. He becomes boring.

Josefa, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:55 (three years ago)

I got this 50-song Charly compilation for next to nothing a year or two ago, Dean Martin Sings the All-Time Hits. I don't think I posted about it at the time. It's a real mixed bag, a lot of covers from the mid- and late '60s.

I was struck how good he is with material like "The Green, Green Grass of Home," "Gentle on My Mind," "Little Green Apples," "The Glory of Love," etc. Easy-listening staples that seem to have been written expressly for him.

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 01:08 (three years ago)

Of the three films he (Scorcese) has been trying to make since the mid-1970s, he has done two: Die letzte Versuchung Christi (1988) and Gangs of New York (2002). The third film, a biopic of Dean Martin called "Dino", has been on hiatus at Warner Brothers since the late 1990s. Scorsese has a very specific all A-list cast in mind, probably why this has yet to be produced. He wants Tom Hanks to star as Martin, Jim Carrey to play Jerry Lewis, John Travolta to play Frank Sinatra, Hugh Grant to play Peter Lawford, and Adam Sandler to play Joey Bishop.

i am happy and sad at the same time how this movie didn't make it into production.

meisenfek, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:22 (three years ago)

The Day the Crooner Cried.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:08 (three years ago)

I treasure the memory of seeing Lee Hazlewood sing "Houston" at some bar in the East Village (or Lower East Side?) and pronouncing it "How-ston."

Josefa, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:26 (three years ago)

omg

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 17:05 (three years ago)

Feel like I need to use that Dean Paul Martin/Olivia Hussey info from the other thread some time soon.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 17:05 (three years ago)

I got this 50-song Charly compilation for next to nothing a year or two ago, Dean Martin Sings the All-Time Hits.

until this, i had totally forgotten that many years ago, BH bought me a cheap-n-cheerful 3cd set of out of copyright stuff thats hidden deep in the attic.
not so sure i can be bothered to go a digging though.

mark e, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 18:13 (three years ago)

"The "That's Amore" sequence from The Caddy, however, is delightful and exhilarating"

Sadly it doesn't begin with Dean Martin saying "my name is Dean Martin?".

And I mean yes technically he plays a character called Joe Anthony but humour me.

Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 20:06 (three years ago)

I don't get the reference

Josefa, Thursday, 14 July 2022 00:58 (three years ago)

Recently saw a TCM doc about him, The King of Cool, with a lot of admiring, affectionate commentary from friends, family, colleagues, but also candid about his limitations, clashes with Lewis and Sinatra, drugs, son's plane crash, F-bombs a-plenty, without getting too melodramatic---reminding me of my fave Dino track, "Ain't That A Kick In The Head."

dow, Friday, 15 July 2022 03:31 (three years ago)

Had forgotten, if I ever knew, how good a comedian he could be without Lewis, winging it on his TV show, esp. when lines and cues gone with the loaded wind---back then, Frank was the good side of Dad Pop, Dino not so much, in hip estimation (Dylan on the back of one of his LPs: "Dean Martin should apologize t the Rolling Stones": hey just kiddin' the kids, Bobberino).

dow, Friday, 15 July 2022 03:36 (three years ago)

https://i.redd.it/12xtk46ohah81.jpg

bulb after bulb, Friday, 15 July 2022 04:02 (three years ago)

My favorite (in so far as I have one) Dino song from a favorite movie just showed up in my favorite (current) television show!

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 July 2022 04:24 (three years ago)

it may have some annoying takes ("he should have reheased more!") but I found the Gioia piece informative

I’ve never seen any performer more relaxed and unruffled in front of an audience. He radiated a kind of charm and offhand charisma that even double platinum stars can’t match.

this made me smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuEv942wOZs

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 28 July 2022 07:11 (three years ago)

Very much recommend the season of podcast You Must Remember This about Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Jr. One amusing insight I took from it is Sinatra really wanted to be friends with all the big mobsters and so they had contempt for him while Dean Martin couldn't care less so they all bent over backwards for him.

Many of the tunes in the films are presented as if they're just slightly above a joke.

Season also makes a case that this is part of his thing - a certain ironic distance from the kitschy italo material, that ethnicity graduating to whiteness allowing for a more fluid stance towards it.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 28 July 2022 09:29 (three years ago)

I just finished watching all the Martin & Lewis-starring films in order - not including the two "My Friend Irma" films in which they apparently have secondary roles.

Would say the best ones are Sailor Beware, The Stooge, The Caddy, Artists and Models and Hollywood or Bust.

The worst are Scared Stiff, You're Never Too Young and Pardners, all of which happen to be remakes of older, non-Martin & Lewis films.

The other films are of varying in-between quality. Living It Up, a remake of Nothing Sacred (1937), might be good enough for the "best" category.

Josefa, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:00 (three years ago)

I new from the first few words that this would be your post.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:23 (three years ago)

ffw vmic

Josefa, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:25 (three years ago)

ffs

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:30 (three years ago)

Aargh new=knew, typo degradation acceleration is real!

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:31 (three years ago)

I found it interesting in the Martin & Lewis films that a theme of "breaking up" or two partners/friends going their separate ways, one dropping the other or whatever, is present in almost all of the films, not just the ones toward the end when they were growing apart IRL.

Another note, Dean is drawn as more of a jerk in some films than others. That is a big variable when you start to watch any given film. Jerry is pretty consistent temperamentally, though slightly stupider in some films than others.

(Off topic, when I was trying to watch all the Monogram Pictures "East Side Kids" films I noticed a similar thing with Leo Gorcey, where he can be either quite likable or quite insufferable from film to film though he's always ostensibly playing the same character, named Muggs).

Josefa, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:47 (three years ago)

(Very interesting aside there)

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 15:10 (three years ago)

Thought Martin was pretty effective in this---a rough-edged, blah-zay party guy & gambler, capable of some insight, but won't stop drinking when finds out has diabetes (which he does while in hospital after getting stabbed while trying to protect Sinatra) and remember his acting better than I do Sinatra's (whose character is more "artistic" and tiresome): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_Came_Running_(film)

dow, Thursday, 28 July 2022 16:57 (three years ago)

Two of his late 60s superspy movies were on TV the other day back to back; I watched the last hour or so of the first, and maybe 20 minutes of the second. Other than seeing immediately where 2/3 of Austin Powers came from, it was not a particularly memorable or edifying experience.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 28 July 2022 17:01 (three years ago)


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