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Pitchfork pans the new Ed Sheeran album but spends the entire review talking only about the lyrics. Like, who the hell listens to music for the lyrics?!

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

lyrics are important too

see: every rap thread, Bob Dylan box sets

Wimmels, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

didn't read review, but what would you actually say about Ed Sheeran music other than it is bland and utterly without character? You could take out his vocal, and insert one of 100,000 aspiring pop singers, male or female, and use the tracks as demos to shop. And probably not get signed, because 99,999 other people are doing the exact same thing.

Dominique, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link

of course lyrics are important, that's the silliest opinion that gets parroted on ilm

obviously they aren't as important as other elements of music, as instrumental music is great without lyrics and it's much easier to be great music with bad music and succeed rather than bad music with great lyrics

but people quote songs all the time, write down lyrics, talk about how much songs mean to them, i think irl people find lyrics meaningful it's more of a rock critic thing or just a thought meme to say they don't

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

i used to think lyrics aren't important but they are extremely important

marcos, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link

snrub provokes much-needed debate

mark s, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link

tbf Sheeran's lyrics are so bad it's hard to notice much else

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link

also tbf, I *do* focus on music first -- and in many cases, never actually get around to remembering the lyrics to even some of my favorite songs. But it's because of that stuff like Ed Sheeran is so insufferable. The music might just as well not exist. As a matter of conserving our shared mental and emotional bandwidth, it shouldn't exist. It's a moral issue, really.

(ironically, his song that was accused of having ripped off Marvin Gaye is actually the only way to redeem its music -- by recycling parts, it's at least producing less completely new waste)

Dominique, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

if you say 'lyrics arent important' that's just bc you don't listen to much music with bad lyrics

flopson, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

huge part of the craft of lyricism is just not writing anything so awful that will stick out and distract from the music

flopson, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link

everyone who says lyrics don't matter gets sentences to a week in the 4 non blondes/edie brickell thread

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link

unless the vocalist doesn't enunciate i have no idea how you can ignore lyrics any more than you can ignore any other prominent aspect of the musical arrangement. they're right there, in your ear.

lex pretend, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

j.k. i don't even hear lyrics

no idea if the first lines to "juicy" by biggie are "it was a all a dream/i used to read word-up magazine" or "it was poo poo pee/tony danza watermelon mezzanine"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link

Pitchfork even reviewing this shit over countless other deserving obscurities it'll never touch is the true atrocity here

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:19 (seven years ago) link

fp

flopson, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link

you useless dullard fuck, when will you fuck off forever

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

"it was poo poo pee/tony danza watermelon mezzanine"

is this lyric on Low-Life or Brotherhood?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

lmao

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

hay guys conservatives and ed sheeran fans have feelings too

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link

why wasn't chaki's milquetoast zing preserved solely for you I ask

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link

you useless dullard fuck, when will you fuck off forever

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, March 10, 2017 10:21 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can u just go write another shitty epic novel or something?

flopson, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link

at least that would constitute some sort of artistic achievement

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

Does it matter what you say if you play shoegaze? I'm too dull to make poetry, looking for a loophole here.

Evan, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

you're a fucking plague on interesting discourse. good day

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

shitting in the corner of an empty room counts as a artistic achievement in certain cases

Evan, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

wait was that last part to me? Because I knew that already.

Evan, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

nah flops and lj are working something out i guess

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link

can you find some other precocious 16 year olds to talk at? sure they would be much more impressed

flopson, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:35 (seven years ago) link

didn't read review, but what would you actually say about Ed Sheeran music other than it is bland and utterly without character? You could take out his vocal, and insert one of 100,000 aspiring pop singers, male or female, and use the tracks as demos to shop. And probably not get signed, because 99,999 other people are doing the exact same thing.

― Dominique, Friday, March 10, 2017 9:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pitchfork even reviewing this shit over countless other deserving obscurities it'll never touch is the true atrocity here

― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, March 10, 2017 10:19 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm no sheeran stan, but these opinions are both bad

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

Is Dominique specifically referring to those out there that consider American Idol the best way to objectively measure one's quality as a musician? I assume there are a lot of people like that. Is that wrong of me?

Evan, Friday, 10 March 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link

xp
nevertheless, it is my opinion. There are doubtlessly lots of ways to write in an interesting way about music that I find bland, though life is too short for me to do more than post on ILM. Were someone to pay me enough to write about my thoughts on Ed Sheeran, it would be hard not to focus on the lack of music character.

I'm not actually referring to anyone in particular -- except that there are at least that number of aspiring pop performers who would love to have an opportunity like Ed Sheeran. Make no mistake, I believe there is a way to be him, and make music that I like/find interesting. What I've heard isn't it.

Dominique, Friday, 10 March 2017 16:10 (seven years ago) link

itt: performative mapping of world ES represents, invokes

mark s, Friday, 10 March 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

pitchfork publishing an earnest takedown of ed sheeran feels like something from the early 00s era

like why bother?

, Friday, 10 March 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link

reviews with a score of 2.8 get clicks and shares

Evan, Friday, 10 March 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link

RIP pitchfork

, Friday, 10 March 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link

what did pitchfork do to suddenly get super super fast pageloads

j., Friday, 10 March 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

iirc sacrificial ceremony

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link

You installed an adblocker?

ArchCarrier, Friday, 10 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

who knows everything seems very fast today, maybe i should sit down

j., Friday, 10 March 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

the singularity is approaching

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 March 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

i am/we are pitchfork

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link

what did pitchfork do to suddenly get super super fast pageloads

― j., Friday, March 10, 2017 8:47 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

deleted obscure_bands database ie pages accessed < 4k x/month

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 10 March 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

they got a hemi

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

Pitchfork pans the new Ed Sheeran album but spends the entire review talking only about the lyrics. Like, who the hell listens to music for the lyrics?!

a) me
b) most of ed sheeran's fans
c) most fans of singer-songwriter types in general, which is Sheeran's selling point
d) this is a bad take

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 10 March 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

I thought it was a joke post. It's not?

Evan, Friday, 10 March 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link

Mr. Snrub is an enigma tbh

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 March 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

an enigma wrapped in a puzzle I've seen dozens of times

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 10 March 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link

when did lengthy discussions about a snrub take begin? ilx continues to surprise me

mark s, Friday, 10 March 2017 22:43 (seven years ago) link

am I supposed to know who snrub is

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 10 March 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

what did pitchfork do to suddenly get super super fast pageloads

― j., Friday, March 10, 2017 8:47 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dat xfinity ad $$$$$

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 March 2017 22:56 (seven years ago) link


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