count me in on the pro-Dexys faction
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 31 August 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
dexys are cool, they're like The Cure with trombones
― brimstead, Monday, 31 August 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
Then one May morning the unthinkable happened: Chinx was killed as shots were fired at his car outside of a venue he’d just performed.
in the context of the rest of the review, "unthinkable" seems a bit of a stretch
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
An asian-american reclaiming the epithet, I presume?
― how's life, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
no not asian american
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
homie, matter fact...
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link
I don't know exactly why it bugs me so much but I could do without ever seeing another album described as a victory lap.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
Would prefer an album declared a band's walk of shame.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 00:40 (eight years ago) link
One for the h8ers... P4k's original review of Pet Sounds.
http://i.imgur.com/stbtNTV.png
― Adam J Duncan, Friday, 11 September 2015 09:28 (eight years ago) link
I'm glad Failblog.org finally got a music vertical
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 September 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link
you do have to give Pet Sounds credit for inspiring Weezer, thanks Pet Sounds
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 September 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link
is that a real pitchfork review?
― scott seward, Friday, 11 September 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
yep
he rated the X-ecutioners slightly higher, lol http://web.archive.org/web/20011126210118/http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/x/x-ecutioners/x-pressions.shtml
― welltris (crüt), Friday, 11 September 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link
misread that as "few people have come close to penning sweater melodies".
― how's life, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
'dark side' > 'pet sounds' > 'ok computer' > 'loveless'
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link
those are definitely four albums
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
failblog.edu
― hunangarage, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
still kind of astonishing that pitchfork is what it is today despite shit like that, like how did they do it, how did they become respectable
― marcos, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
i mean that was from schreiber himself not some dumb college freelancer
it just wasn't made for these times
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link
Ryan realized early on (thankfully) that he was no writer.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
Pitchfork succeeding despite its founder's biases and deficiencies as a writer is less surprising if you've ever read the work of Jann s wenner or bob guccione jr
― da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link
I almost wish ryan was prone to more "I'm still here" goddess-in-the-doorway moments
― da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/birdnestsoup/isley.jpg
individual scores for all the individual isleys reissues makes them look like crazies imo
― feargal czukay (NickB), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/goddess-in-the-doorway-20011206
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link
when was the last schreiber review? Last thing that comes to mind was him scoffing at cleavage and bad photoshop in a worst covers of the year list and that coulda been in the 00s
― da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
tbf, Wenner was a decent interviewer early on (by "early" I mean no later than 1968). Was always a shitty critic, though.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
That wasn't really Wenner. A ghostwriter wrote it and Wenner signed off on it.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
def can't rep for schreiber as an interviewer as all i remember is him making an affirmative action joke at interpol in like 02
― da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
his last album review appears to be a best new music for a grizzly bear EP in 2007. That shows amazing restraint, really. he's done some news blurbs since, though
So A$AP Rocky just posted a video for his Buddy Holly-referencing new track "Purple Kisses", which might actually qualify as SFW if you happen to work in a porn studio. (Or, at Pitchfork.)
that last bit is pretty lol if you remember how hot-n-heavy fork reviews could get in the early days
― da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link
that's from 2012 - which is when he did his last track review and only video interview, as well. (fyi this is all on his contributor page, i'm not deep google-digging here).
― da croupier, Friday, 11 September 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
xp the isley brothers thing is so wtf
― niels, Saturday, 12 September 2015 08:28 (eight years ago) link
the average of the individual Isleys scores is 7.4, not 8.5. the median is even a bit lower. why not just a score for the whole package when there's clearly no correlation?
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Saturday, 12 September 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
I like the review though.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 September 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
me too. always happy to see Erlewine show up in unexpected places.
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Saturday, 12 September 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link
my favorite isleys record changes every few months so I found the scoring interesting
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 September 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
Morrissey, meanwhile, isn’t overly fussed with convincing the non-believers. When the lights dim, he marches up to the microphone and begins an acapella rendition of Willie Nelson’s "Always on My Mind".
*sigh* if we're just going to throw accuracy out the window why not The Pet Shop Boys "Always on My Mind"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link
Pitchfork is never gonna acknowledge professional songwriters when talking about country. Though to give them some credit, if you're gonna pick a version to cite, that's the one - Elvis's only hit #20 in the US, but Nelson's hit #5.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
Elvis's was the bigger hit in Britain though (Elvis #9, Willie #49). PSB version went to number one.
― Ray Chard (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
Apparently it was a single in the UK but a B-side over here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always_on_My_Mind#Elvis_Presley_version
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
Nelson's version is neither the original - since he didn't write it - nor is it the first. Calling it his song is weird.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
I mean sure it's the most famous but why is that relevant
I totally agree, btw. I hate when people (OK, marketing people) claim that an artist has recorded an album of "Elvis covers" or "Frank Sinatra covers." Elvis never wrote a song in his life. Frank Sinatra, either.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
especially in reference to Morrissey - who I would suspect was more familiar with other versions more popular in the UK than Nelson's
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
Morrissey's probably really into the Brenda Lee version or something
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link
elvis was on the cover of shoplifters btw
― Ray Chard (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link
Dropping obscure terminology and hyperlinking to its wikipedia page.
― lamonti, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
people should never write about music
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/910-the-masterful-mockery-of-father-john-mistys-1989-jibes/
― jamiesummerz, Thursday, 24 September 2015 10:54 (eight years ago) link
Highlights from that column include:
Tillman’s interpretations were less homage than tongue-in-cheek criticism, serving up wry commentary about the imbalance between surface and substance in endeavors like Adams’..."My reinterpretation of the classic Ryan Adams album 1989," he wrote, his tone practically dripping with sarcasm, the word "classic" a jesting arrow aimed at Adams...Under Tillman’s thumb, "Welcome to New York" became a palimpsest, barely recognizable as the original Swift song save for the lyrics, thanks to his and his band’s uncanny ability to play it in the style of the Velvet Underground...Leave it to Tillman, then, to one up Adams’ attempt to mine the musical past by showing off his killer Lou Reed impression. It’s a Shakespearean move à la "I do bite my thumb, sir," though intended more for comedic effect than dramatic...Whether listeners interpret Tillman’s "Blank Space" and "Welcome to New York" as mean-spirited or comical depends upon the ear, but they are deeper reimaginings of what it means to perform a cover, and what that cover can actually say within the greater cultural melee. It’s a reminder that not all that glitters is gold.
"My reinterpretation of the classic Ryan Adams album 1989," he wrote, his tone practically dripping with sarcasm, the word "classic" a jesting arrow aimed at Adams...
Under Tillman’s thumb, "Welcome to New York" became a palimpsest, barely recognizable as the original Swift song save for the lyrics, thanks to his and his band’s uncanny ability to play it in the style of the Velvet Underground...
Leave it to Tillman, then, to one up Adams’ attempt to mine the musical past by showing off his killer Lou Reed impression. It’s a Shakespearean move à la "I do bite my thumb, sir," though intended more for comedic effect than dramatic...
Whether listeners interpret Tillman’s "Blank Space" and "Welcome to New York" as mean-spirited or comical depends upon the ear, but they are deeper reimaginings of what it means to perform a cover, and what that cover can actually say within the greater cultural melee. It’s a reminder that not all that glitters is gold.
Crazy stuff. Anyway, is this Tillman a bit of an idiot too?
― niels, Thursday, 24 September 2015 11:28 (eight years ago) link
The headline should probably be included too, if highlights be polled... "masterful mockery", v good
Or maybe the whole piece is meant to ridicule Tillman by mimicking his self important tone?
― niels, Thursday, 24 September 2015 11:31 (eight years ago) link