pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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yeah, i mean i can understand the utility (and god knows things like the spin record guide etc turned me on to things) but i kinda hate that weird mix of canon and curriculum they work w/, the way they codify 'here is precisely how to approach this artist'.

balls, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 02:54 (ten years ago) link

yeah for example usually every single primer in the av club in their "where not to begin" section will have something egregiously incorrect imo.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 02:57 (ten years ago) link

I think we'd all be better off discussing why so many PF interviews are so bloody SHORT.

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 04:32 (ten years ago) link

i do feel like i've been seeing more and more reviews there where i get to the end of the 4th paragraph and go "that's it? i thought we were just getting started"

some dude, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 05:52 (ten years ago) link

I think that primers like this are pretty helpful for people. I checked out so many bands because of obsessively reading the blue Trouser Press record guide.

DonkeyTeeth, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:19 (ten years ago) link

Al, I wrote a splice piece about this very issue. Ran today.

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link

TOO FAR

some dude, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:06 (ten years ago) link

Haha I don't even know how to read that

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:09 (ten years ago) link

I'm not a Future Islands fan but that piece was what really tipped the scales for me, like WTF three questions?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:10 (ten years ago) link

i dunno i just think the difference between griping about that kind of thing on a message board and writing an actual article about it is pretty significant

some dude, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:23 (ten years ago) link

I mean, I just am a guy who digs long interviews and expect a certain approach. If something bothers me I tend to write an article about it, if I'm able.

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link

Not hating, just saying to P4K "don't think we don't notice this"

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link

Considering the low barrier to entry to be a Pitchfork writer, I really have no idea why you'd write a thinkpiece on this as opposed to just writing some long interviews for pitchfork and be the change you want to see.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

Can I rewind this thread a bit and ask who is Jon Fahey

, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link

Sufjan Steven's father

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:20 (ten years ago) link

Got it. So he is from the Midwest and plays a guitar??

, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

Yes. Maryland is in the Midwest

you are kind, I am (waterface), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link

Considering the low barrier to entry to be a Pitchfork writer,I really have no idea why you'd write a thinkpiece on this as opposed to just writing some long interviews for pitchfork and be the change you want to see.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:18 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

RC does state in his piece - in the first sentence - that he's applied to write for Pitchfork many times. You didn't see that part?

For all the bashing (deserved or otherwise) re: low barrier for entry, I'd argue that the caliber of writing on Pitchfork is generally a cut above some of the other shit we make fun of around here (AV Club, etc). Which is why when someone really, really stinks, it's glaring.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link

I'm speaking about reviews, of course. I don't read the features or interviews regularly enough to comment too much on that, but I really have liked The Out Door and Show No Mercy, among others.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link

If your first name is Sam or Brandon it's pretty easy to write for P4k

, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

Ah, well I see Raymond's byline plenty, he's got lots of places he can do long interviews iirc

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link

Three questions and three answers do not in any way constitute an interview, in any sense, unless you're working for a glossy teen magazine or generating margin content for GQ

or creating content you want people to actually read in this post-Neil Postman kinda world. Hey, I don't like it any more than you do! Also, this piece could have been much longer.

Just razzing ya. Enjoyed this.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Ha! Good times

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link

maryland's in the big ten now waterface!

balls, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:23 (ten years ago) link

skot's review of the pitchfork top 100 tracks was great

Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

link?

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link

whiney is there really a band called perfect pussy?

Lamp, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link

yep
they are ok too

Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link

Spottie, here you are:

http://skotrok.blogspot.com/2014/01/i-listened-to-all-of-pitchforks-top-100.html

Evan, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link

ty, sorry didn't know skot was THAT skot.

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link

Loved this bit from the Skot blog post:

I love that the Prurient dude is called “unfathomably prolific” in the Pitchfork blurb! Like you couldn't possibly fathom how prolific this guy is. Welcome to noiseland. Where prolific artists are very very fathomable. The norm, really. There are dudes that make Prurient look like a three-toed sloth. Noise people are like sci-fi writers. If they are awake they can probably make a tape/art/start a zine/start a label/play in 20 different side-projects. They are really BUSY for people who often move slowly and don't always have steady employment. If we could harness the inner nervous energy of America's noise musicians, I think we could reach Mars in a matter of days.

JRN, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link

Haha that Skot thing is ridiculously quotable!

The album’s okay. File it next to the first Elastica album that you sold years ago.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:15 (ten years ago) link

It's endlessly OTM, afaic.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:04 (ten years ago) link

4AD was one of the greatest independent record labels of the 1980's.

bilbo bobbins (how's life), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

Also the repping for people as probably a nice guy.

bilbo bobbins (how's life), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link

We really do need a poll of best Skot lines in this thing.

This single should come with a car. In order to buy this single, you must drive it away from the showroom.

Wait, did he say that the demons want his dome? In any case, A$AP Scott approves.

This has been the best morning. Thank you, Skot!

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link

My 8-year-old son might like this one. He’s been listening to a lot of Deadmau5 and he’s eight so he’s very familiar with alternate spellings. This just makes me feel like Mount Rushmore.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

Man, this would really freak out my cats. This is future music!

Evan, Thursday, 30 January 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link

awesome work all around, loved reading

Spottie, Thursday, 30 January 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link

I enjoy selling Fleetwood Mac records to teenagers. I really do.

grandavis, Thursday, 30 January 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

If this music excites you, you're already dead.

Evan, Thursday, 30 January 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

87. The National - “Pink Rabbits” (4AD)
The link on Pitchfork is to a song by The National called “Sea Of Love” so I'll just listen to that.... We may never know what “Pink Rabbits” sounds like but if “Sea Of Love” is any indication, we will never know what “Pink Rabbits” sounds like.

a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Friday, 31 January 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link

Lol but pink rabbits is a great track.

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Friday, 31 January 2014 02:14 (ten years ago) link

Haha xp so good

Spottie, Friday, 31 January 2014 03:20 (ten years ago) link

And theoretically I like the IDEA of genre-smashing superheroes like M.I.A. And Santigold, but for some reason I hear their stuff and when it's done it's gone. Right out of my head. Like a bird. Like a bird that knows Diplo.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 January 2014 03:24 (ten years ago) link

glad you liked it, you guyz! hugz & kissez! your pal, SS

scott seward, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link

post more often please

Murgatroid, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link

You certainly helped articulate my feelings towards mbv in a way that I never quite could: I am definitely a fan of the old stuff. When the new album came out, I was happy for even bigger fans in the way that you are happy for a relative who gets a promotion or a friend who posts pictures on Facebook of them finishing some sort of charity road race. Good for you!

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link


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