pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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dude, if you ever bothered to think for a moment about anything you read/type, you'd realize that i spend a fuck of a lot of time on ILX calling out shit as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. way more so than most posters. you've just decided to make a big psycho issue out of this because i don't always agree with you.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

I love how dick-waving on ILX essentially amounts to who can call the most people racist

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

shit, frogs, i'm not even proud of the fact. it's like a tic with me. posted a big sexism bitch on the rolling stones poll thread yesterday, then sort of wished i hadn't, funcrusher.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

lol oops

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

Might be a bit off topic but I have wondered if members of Tinariwen and Terakaft might be involved in the fighting in Mali.

badg, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:01 (twelve years ago) link

i have not

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

xpost

I've thought about that too. I don't really know exactly how closely connected they are to the guerillas, but I've gotte the impression it's pretty close. Wouldn't be too surprising if they are involved I guss...

And Contenderizer: Thanks for sharing that important piece of information..

Mule, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link

hey, twice in one thread! go ilx.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:15 (twelve years ago) link

I have no problem with your comment upthread, really. I kinda agree, with you actually. You could have corroborated your point, but no biggie.. But badg asked an interesting question, and you kinda took a shit at it, which is not so cool.

That's all really.. If you think it's funny that people are puzzled by your contrubutions then ok, I guess..

Mule, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

Disregard the comma after "agree"..

Mule, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

ah, i was just kidding - and serious, too! idea had seriously never occurred to me. tone i was shooting for was more "lighthearted nonsense" than "shitting on", but things get weird on the inernet #58 billion...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

There's no thread for Cokemachinegloe sadly, so I'll post in here. Linked their review of the Julia Holter album to a mate on Twitter...having seen that my twitter bio states that I'm a retail assistant, which I am, the review had this to say to us: "I guess we should let the "retail assistants" of the world decide what's good, eh? True authority speaking there." followed by, "We'll work on dumbing down our reviews a little for our blue collar readers...."

Oh dear.

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

*reviewer

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

Let's all continue with our lives, then.

Mule, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link

.having seen that my twitter bio states that I'm a retail assistant, which I am, the review had this to say to us: "I guess we should let the "retail assistants" of the world decide what's good, eh? True authority speaking there." followed by, "We'll work on dumbing down our reviews a little for our blue collar readers...."

just...wow. what a dick.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

do you have a link?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:38 (twelve years ago) link

https://twitter.com/#!/BrentAbles

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

I do realise, btw, that my first response to him is a tad immature...

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

oh nm i found it. unbelievable. m8 u write for a blog, 1) on no account can u front like ur better than a "retail assistant" 2) be goddamn grateful u have readers at all.

i was gonna tweet this but i would feel a bit mean calling out a critic w/78 followers ;_;

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

xp it's not even as if you @ed him in the first place

"keep up the hobby xxx" made me lol

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

well, if it's any consolation, that review is almost entirely vacuous, though exceedingly well upholstered. most risible bit:

Holter’s vacuous constructions are left bare to naturally solidify in the tentative advance of dawn, and with the light comes a clouds-parting revelation of latent songwriting talent and preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture.

uh-yeah!

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:52 (twelve years ago) link

cokemachineglow is the worst

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:53 (twelve years ago) link

oh LOLLLLLL at that bit contenderizer quoted, amazing

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:56 (twelve years ago) link

The superiority complex of wannabe highbrows who can't even craft readable prose is reliably repulsive.

This is ekstasis, literally “being outside oneself,” as it was first defined by the ancient Greeks and again by their great student Martin Heidegger (who also called it transcendence): as always already concerned and involved with a world that is “other” and cast beyond ourselves into a past that is no longer and a future that is not yet, we step out of the stasis proper to natural beings and enter into the distinctive play of presence and absence that is proper to human existence. “We go outside,” as Holter more succinctly puts it.

lol

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

You don’t give yourself over to Ekstasis so much as inexorably lose yourself within its glistening contours and fleeting visions of potentially misremembered moments of interpersonal, emotional, and spiritual enlightenment. Forget about “finding yourself”; everything, it seems, is all around us, yet each grasp at concrete experience inevitably yields a recession into the shadows from whence these feelings came. But then we remember, as if awakening from a dream: this is not ekstasis, this is ecstasy. This is not the shackle of an ontological reality, but euphoric possibility perpetually drawing us on toward its horizon, like a lost memory that lives on as desire. With Julia Holter, with this profound and inexhaustibly gorgeous album, we can transcend our own transcendence and find the greatest bliss in the joyful renunciation of what makes us us. And all we have to do is go outside.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

I have no idea who they think their audience is

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Puts P4k's flaws into perspective - Mark Richardson's Holter review is far from dumbed down but it actually flows and makes the record sound appealing.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

drowning in adverbs

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

holy smokes.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

i am frankly amazed that any of you managed to actually read the entire thing.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

OMG @ that review.

I'd have thought it was a joke, if it wasn't for that exchange on Twitter.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link

wow

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link

most of their reviews are like that iirc

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

I actually like that record as well.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

It certainly didn't deserve having that review happen to it

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

gonna go transcend transcendence itself, brb

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

That's kind of like what I imagine my writing is like in my nightmares.

Like, you know that dream everyone apparently has where they suddenly and belatedly realise they're naked in a public place? My equiv is a computer screen flashing up:

Julia Holter - Ekstasis
9/10

You don’t give yourself over to Ekstasis so much as inexorably lose yourself within its glistening contours and fleeting visions of potentially misremembered moments of interpersonal, emotional, and spiritual enlightenment. Forget about “finding yourself”; everything, it seems, is all around us, yet each grasp at concrete experience inevitably yields a recession into the shadows from whence these feelings came. But then we remember, as if awakening from a dream: this is not ekstasis, this is ecstasy. This is not the shackle of an ontological reality, but euphoric possibility perpetually drawing us on toward its horizon, like a lost memory that lives on as desire. With Julia Holter, with this profound and inexhaustibly gorgeous album, we can transcend our own transcendence and find the greatest bliss in the joyful renunciation of what makes us us. And all we have to do is go outside.
Review by Tim Finney

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago) link

At least your dream spared you from that Heidegger drop.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

I just went outside and nothing like all that other stuff happened :(

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:03 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Some things are too dangerous even in dreams.

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:04 (twelve years ago) link

C'mon, dude's a philosophy PhD student, he KNOWS his shit and KNOWS that an album review is the place to drop it.

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

Might be a bit off topic but I have wondered if members of Tinariwen and Terakaft might be involved in the fighting in Mali.

― badg, Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:01 AM (6 hours ago)

No re Tinariwen and I have not read any more about other bands. On the Rolling Whirled music thread I posted a link to a piece about 2 members of Tinariwen who are in a refugee camp now and unable to join up with other band members who had already left Mali for a tour.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

xp lol Tim

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

cokemachineglow is the worst

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

^^ cannot be said enough, i'm actually curious to know who their audience actually is. at this point i'm assuming its at least 80% people reading it to roll their eyes

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

cokemachinejagger

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

the audience for that type of writing = 15-year-old theater kids

signed, a former 15-year-old theater kid who wishes he had a time machine so he could go back and shake some sense into his younger self

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

timemachineglow

the outlaw josie mccoy (some dude), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

At least your dream spared you from that Heidegger drop.

Ah, always waiting for the drop.

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

Shout outs to Heidegger, always already, presence/absence, based, proper to human existence, swag, etc.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link


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