pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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i often get the idea that pitchfork writers (reviewers, but obviously the columnists, more) are in dialogue with something, so it seems interesting that they can maintain that, without comments, in an era where comments are practically obligatory on any interweb venture.

j., Friday, 15 July 2011 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

I am glad that people have realised that rock critics are not (and should not be) famous. Lester Bangs is not famous outside of a very small circle.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 15 July 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

pitchfork likes EMA http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

beaster eggs: a thread for rad sugar puns (dave cool), Friday, 15 July 2011 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15743-tripper/

...what does this mean?

Conflict, resolution, and character development often slip by unnoticed, eased in their passage by the woozy synths and atmospherics that function as the album's rough-spot-smoothing sonic hand lotion

wait
we're reviewing music here now aren't we

Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Not since Jonathan Richman has there been a songwriter so willing to convey honest and deep feelings through the most basic pop syntax, and Owens also shares Richman's desire to use familiar song forms to get these essential messages across."

really pitchfork? not since jonathan richman? also, please be more into line-editing

"He has a preternatural gift for turning clichés into into deeply affecting songs, and as they jump from one style to the next, from delicate acoustic balladry to noisy rave-ups, Owens' voice and point of view ground the record and make it distinctive."

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

I love rave reviews that are basically just "it's good because it's good, and it's just so good at that, y'know?" over and over

some dude, Monday, 12 September 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link

as opposed to those quiet rave-ups

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, so I can't remember if or where there's been a thread where we pull up embarrassing reviews from the archive, but I was googling reviews of Dark Magus just now and came across this absolute winner from Jason Josephes:

Good old Japan. We bomb them, so they horde this Miles Davis gem, available in the US for the first time. It's the best $27 spent outside of the massage parlor in eons. Yeah, I buy CDs sometimes, too. Why? Friggin' label won't send 'em to us. I'm willing to look the other way this time, because this 2 CD set, to put it simply, rules.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not standing up for the girls review, although I don't think it says "it's good because it's good" over and over, and in a way, even if it had, I don't think I can ever expect much more than "it's good because it's good" or "it's bad because it's bad," as if there were an underlying logic to something being good or bad, unless a critic were to write about something other than the goodness or badness of a work (and this is something I don't think pitchfork reviews do often, except in an intermittent, half-assed way, because it's not what their readers are looking for).

bamcquern, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

i've always said maybe if pfork didn't insist on these 1,000-word reviews of indie rock footnotes, people wouldnt be always filling them with sprawling, masturbatory prose.

▂▂▅ dr. whiney says brush your teeth ▂▂▅ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, it encourages compression, which makes the writing sound unnatural.

bamcquern, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

I love rave reviews that are basically just "it's good because it's good, and it's just so good at that, y'know?" over and over

― some dude, Monday, September 12, 2011 8:13 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

v. good summation of the problem with that band--if you're not *affected* by the guys voice/lyrics/whatev there's no reason to care about them, and if you are there's no intelligent way to talk about it.

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

The ineffability of their appeal really works against them. Common problem.

bamcquern, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

this band, to put it simply, rules

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

y? because they rule

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

This is every language problem.

bamcquern, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

Pitchfork writer Mims

▂▂▅ dr. whiney says brush your teeth ▂▂▅ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

don't really feel like bam or cad really got what i was saying

some dude, Saturday, 24 September 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link

Lbh ner fb arkg yriry

bamcquern, Saturday, 24 September 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

xp i got what you were saying and was kind of using it to jump off to another point.

this is not the right thread but whatever i'm not going to wade into the girls thread or anything.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 September 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

"Not since Jonathan Richman has there been a songwriter so willing to convey honest and deep feelings through the most basic pop syntax

lolololololololololol

lex pretend, Saturday, 24 September 2011 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

when did pitchfork start going link-crazy in the reviews? same time as the redesign?

j., Tuesday, 1 November 2011 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this is like old-school pfork-level ridiculous, reads like a bad press release: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16038-the-9th-inning-ep/

this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

i think that's only weiss' third review so far but he seems like a shitty writer.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

lol

markers, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

not gonna read that, but

conjure Nate Dogg at a séance

. . .

markers, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sure the hip hop dudes will mock me for this but as someone who follows the genre pretty superficially i have enjoyed the end-of-the-year best-of comps on passion of the weiss - assuming this is the same dude

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

Gonjasufi invented intelligent demon music

... I made it exactly one sentence

sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

that's as far as I made it as well

your pain is probably equal (Z S), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

a glass pyramid breaking under the weight of his psychedelic bombed squad

Young writers should experiment but editors should intervene to tell them when the experiment's gone horribly wrong.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

assuming this is the same dude

It is.

Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

From the first words of The 9th Inning, we're sucked into apocalypse. Industrial noises clank like robots led to the guillotine.

:o

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

why do people who write purple prose never realise it themselves? do they not read their work back? well i don't always read my work back but STILL you'd think they'd notice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

Sufi sounds like someone who attempted to conjure Nate Dogg at a séance and received a demented ghost from a nearby dimension.

Liked that one, but yeh some real clangers in there.

Mercer Finn, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

hey i write a lot of purple prose and totally realize it

this review is pretty terrible though yeah

Based in "the Mojave," the desert-dwelling prophet

nooooooooooooo

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

actually kinda refreshing that they'd let this one through in 2k11

this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah has that old-school PF hyperbole vibe. Feelin' it.

Another Bad Kreayshawn (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

brent dicrescenzo is dead/long live brent dicrescenzo

dayo, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i liked that review, it was funnie

jon /bia /tche 2.0 (Lamp), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

Let's be honest, Weiss was probably stoned when he wrote it.

Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

good work weiss

nakamura, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

a glass pyramid breaking under the weight of his psychedelic bombed squad

Young writers should experiment but editors should intervene to tell them when the experiment's gone horribly wrong.

― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:58 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

you mean tell them when the glass pyramid is about the break

some dude, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

about to break

some dude, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

This artcile is just tortuous to read.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

"Would not the fun/ Look too expensive!"
– Emily Dickinson, poem 338

stopped reading right about here, tho i have no problem with ED

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

i lol when people complain about pitchfork getting a more generic "voice" over the years because the alternative was william bowers

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

i've recently spent a lot of time on ILX grumping about the absence of "personality" in pfork's criticism

i now see that "less of you" is sometimes a really good thing

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

fucking lol, cad beat me to it

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link


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