LOOK AT FUCKING NUMBER 5. There's cream in my pants already.
Out November 14.
― MRZBW (MRZBW), Sunday, 24 September 2006 11:15 (6 years ago) Permalink
So Divided sounds very similar to Worlds Apart, which I really liked.
― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Sunday, 24 September 2006 14:36 (6 years ago) Permalink
The first time I saw them live, they were so loud and intimidatingthat they were frightening. One of the drummer/singers trashed the drumset about 5 songs too early in the set, and for once the actionseemed justified. At the time it was the best show I'd ever seen, probably.
Then Worlds Apart came out, and they decided to focus on the what theydo the worst - slower, half-assed ballads.
― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 24 September 2006 16:13 (6 years ago) Permalink
― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Sunday, 24 September 2006 16:30 (6 years ago) Permalink
― edde (edde), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:09 (6 years ago) Permalink
Agreed.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:03 (6 years ago) Permalink
― like murderinging (modestmickey), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:23 (6 years ago) Permalink
Fuck, no pun intended on the pitchfork thing.
― adam j (In Place of Something Clever), Sunday, 24 September 2006 21:57 (6 years ago) Permalink
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:18 (6 years ago) Permalink
― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 25 September 2006 03:44 (6 years ago) Permalink
― lrsn (larssen), Monday, 25 September 2006 03:48 (6 years ago) Permalink
now, that's just crazy talk...
― edde (edde), Monday, 25 September 2006 04:04 (6 years ago) Permalink
it was lacking everything that made 'source tags and codes' so great.
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:16 (6 years ago) Permalink
Having said that, the show I saw around the time of Worlds Apart, with two drummers etc, did make up for some of the disappointment of Worlds Apart
― jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:19 (6 years ago) Permalink
― edde (edde), Monday, 25 September 2006 18:31 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 25 September 2006 19:16 (6 years ago) Permalink
i never heard worlds apart.
i liked their shit up to that point.
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 25 September 2006 19:39 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Monday, 25 September 2006 19:45 (6 years ago) Permalink
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 25 September 2006 20:13 (6 years ago) Permalink
you'd hate yr kid if he joined a frat?
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 25 September 2006 20:14 (6 years ago) Permalink
On the whole Source Tags and Codes was a better album, though.
― Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Monday, 25 September 2006 20:20 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:49 (6 years ago) Permalink
― tk (tk), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:53 (6 years ago) Permalink
hmmm, i can get behind this statement.
So Divided sounds like a band that's run it's course and has nothing left to give (tho, many seem to think otherwise to the tune of "you just don't like it cuz it's all piano'd out!" which is pretty much true! ToD didn't use pianos this much!!). the first real song "Stand In Silence" is where it begins+ends for me. the rest is just too damned...well, bland or proggy for me.and from the recent interviews it sounds like Conrad's ready to throw in the towel. live, they've only been playing 'Stand In Silence' from the new stuff. now, if i would see a show and that'd be the only one of the new bunch they played, i'd be pretty happy!too much Conrad, not enough Reece, and no Busch= no good. it's sad, i really dug Madonna/ST&C/Elaina's Tomb/and 1-6 of WA...oh, well.they can join QotSA on the heap, i suppose.tho, QotSA CAN prove me wrong, i doubt they will.
― edde (edde), Thursday, 9 November 2006 01:08 (6 years ago) Permalink
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 01:34 (6 years ago) Permalink
every fucking song on this album is part-terrible, part-awesome. EVERY SINGLE ONE. i don't know how they did it.
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 05:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok on second listen this is way way way better than precisely every single person ever thought it was. the reason being that it's good in ways that nobody expected or wanted TOD to be good. also there's a lot of lovely sonic detail that comes through. am rapidly becoming a large post-STAC-TOD-stan
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
their later stuff is more interesting than it gets credit for - these guys just really suffered from getting the zeitgeist half right and half wrong like some awkward straddle of the arcade fire and hot topic shit. wound up looking like a pitchfork growing pain.
― da croupier, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah. this is definitely music that history and distance will be kinder to than the 'ok we got a great dynamic GUITAR band whoo....oh shit WHAT ARE YOU DOING' brigade were at the time
it's playful and silly and ill-advised, and so i am extremely keen to bat for it. plus it's enjoyable. it isn't as good as worlds apart but then worlds apart is a righteous bolt of brilliance (i ranked it my #21 album of the decade). if every old-skool TOD song was as good as 'heart in the hand of the matter' then i'd prefer the old stuff. but it isn't, so i don't. way prefer this band on the verge of a prog-pop nervous breakdown.
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
'heart in the hand of the matter' or 'it was there that i saw you', i should have said. those are the stone-dead stunners on STAC. may give the first two albums a go too, but suspect WA will remain my fave
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 16:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's playful and silly and ill-advised
well put.. this is one of the things i really like about this band. i mean, their album covers and logos are absolutely terrible and waay over the top but charming at the same time. it seems like this aesthetic has been steadily creeping into the music as opposed to being strictly resigned to their imagery/mythos.
― Kate 'Impeach' Bush (Future_Perfect), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
this album is relentlessly terrible. the couple of even bearable songs on here are useless retreads of former glories. i can only guess that this was some shit they shoveled together to kill their contract with Interscope because the albums on either side of it are gold, jerry.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 11 January 2010 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
hmm. admittedly while enjoying it i can't actually remember much or any of it (except maybe 'wasted state of mind'). the albums either side of it ARE better. i really like how loopy it is though! the idea of the artistic breakdown mid-album is mined fruitfully. century of self is superb aside from the long tracks near the beginning which are a bit dull. but then from bells of creation on it's ace. i also like giants causeway a lot.
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ears that prefer later stuff to ST&C are mysterious to me.
― Simon H., Monday, 11 January 2010 17:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
that's harsh on 'halcyon days' actually. it's only really 'isis unveiled' which annoys me.
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
LJ, Giants Causeway is an excerpt of a longer instrumental track from the pre-album EP. check it yo.
Isis Unveiled rules btw. the whole record is A+ until it hits some B- skids near the end.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 11 January 2010 17:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
isis unveiled is sorta 'will you smile again' except not even within a space-sector of being as good. would dispute the B- skids, although 'ascending' isn't for everyone/every time and the waltz is arguably silly. 'luna park' is the second greatest song this band has written, behind the aforementioned
will scout out 'festival thyme'. is the version of bells on there better than the album one? love the fx storm near the end ^_^
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
really, really, really don't get the hate - i mean i DO - but there's something about a megatuneful cod-epic concept album about forgetting how to write an album that really appeals
it veers so wildly and so ill-advisedly that i can't help but love it
― william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 19:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
if they could make a listof their mistakes and regretsthey'd put their megatuneful cod-epic concept album about forgetting how to write an album that really appeals on top
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 April 2010 19:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
'that really appeals' was part of the 'there's something about' clause but maybe you have a point - i'd say this is only their joint-3rd-best album anyway, but for all that they're deeply cheesy, i do enjoy this band's work - they use their cheese in a sort of sly, self-knowing way that offsets the full-bore emotional manipulation
― william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 19:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
admittedly my liking for this album is LARGELY although by no means exclusively based around Wasted State Of Mind (one of their very best songs), Naked Sun after the first bit finishes (although it's kinda so bad it's good, and the subsequent morph into an actually-amazing song is even more O_O as a result) and Sunken Dreams
the rest is good and baffling in equal measure, if not awesome
― william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 20:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
EVERYONE GOT THIS RECORD WRONG
;_;
need to finish my work now. but this is the soundtrack.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 05:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
this is an amazing album, as is worlds apart. i've always preferred those two to Source Tags.they really got shafted by pitchfork, huh?they were upset/territorial about TOD going full on MTVand when that failed, they had the knives readysaw em to a not-sold-out 300 person club last year and it was incrediblethey should be selling out massive venues
― spazzmatazz, Friday, 5 October 2012 15:38 (7 months ago) Permalink
thought i was p much alone in still kind of liking these guys. for having to play at like 12:30 PM in the blazing summer sun, they put on a really good set at Lollapalooza years ago.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 October 2012 20:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
i didnt listen to those mid-period records much but the one from last year was incredibly good
― ciderpress, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:24 (7 months ago) Permalink
don't they have a new comp out soon, LOST SONGS?
― spazzmatazz, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:27 (7 months ago) Permalink
they are possibly my favorite rock band on record, i've never seen them live tho. i have a hard time ranking their records, they're all more or less equally good and i can't think of any other band who i could say the same about.
― sleepingbag, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:27 (7 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, supposedly out this month I think.
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― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 October 2012 20:28 (7 months ago) Permalink
Ok the first two songs they've released on their next album are very promising. Maybe I'm actually looking forward to this.
― Evan, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 13:57 (7 months ago) Permalink