im sick of aaron lacrate, amanda blank and co getting more coverage for their music than the real artists and DJs from the b-more club scene

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i like aaron and amandas music (although bmore gutter music was pretty shit) but for fucks sake, im tired of reading how they represent the new wave or are part of the real bmore club scene. they dont. on a street level, from what i know from people that live there, they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene but if you go by what you read in mags like ID, they make it seem like theyre running it. its pretty fucking lazy reporting, wrong, unfairly biased and is basically inaccurate coverage of the music, the people making it and their attitude to it.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

don't you live in england? this is payback for all those grime threads, isn't it?

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

oh now i get it.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

what do you get?

xpost - i live in england, yes. i have a friend from baltimore though who i rely on for info.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha o god. if this was a joke thread it would be good and magnanimous.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - i live in england, yes. i have a friend from baltimore though who i rely on for info.

Does he send you Oreos and Proper American Peanut Butter through the post like all good American pen pals should? Actually, you can get Oreos in England now, so they've lost their appeal.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england
they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene
i live in england

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oreos are still great.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

everyone saying i cant say anything about this because i live in england, i hope you never comment on anything british again. because obviously you arent qualified. only people who live in the same country as the music they discuss have a leg to stand on.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think we all know that what's going on "on a street level" and in the "real...club scene" is often often total crap. (And often not, of course - it all depends.)

Not that that really has anything to do with the question at hand...

Anyway, I think it's pretty easy to see why Spank Rock and XXXchange are getting all the attention. The singles, mixes and album are SPECTACULAR. (And - let's face it - white/indie/critic friendly.) That, in turn, draws attention to other Spank-associated, white, indie B'more players. Enter LaCrate and Blank.

Not at all fond of A. Lacrate, though I do think Amada can be funny. Doesn't surprise me that they're getting lots of attention. And, yeah, Bmore Gutta Music is garbage.

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is already a masterpiece.

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

ILM _can_ be fun without Geir.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Last two posts OTM.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Meantime I was reading the first name in the title as 'Aaron Lactate.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Does he send you Oreos and Proper American Peanut Butter through the post like all good American pen pals should? Actually, you can get Oreos in England now, so they've lost their appeal.

you can get skippy peanut butter in england too. my flatmate and i are fucking addicted to it, we buy massive tubs of it from the offie downstairs and eat it with spoons straight out of the tub.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

But you'll be dead in five years! Your arteries hate you even now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

oh it is far from the least healthy thing in my life! as long as i don't put on weight (which i don't) it's all good. it's SO NICE.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

crunchy not smooth

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

That's your motto for EVERYTHING.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

peanut butter, baltimore booty bass, everything!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

The new holy trinity.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

everyone involved in bmore club music is an interloper, so i've heard

matt simbols (mattsimbols), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

"you can get skippy peanut butter in england too. my flatmate and i are fucking addicted to it, we buy massive tubs of it from the offie downstairs and eat it with spoons straight out of the tub."

I had a British roommate for a year in college and that guy ate peanut butter like it was going out of style (PB with Oreos more precisely). He also seemed to be rather impressed with MacDonalds. Apparently the US McD's and UK McD's taste entirely different.

paid in cigarettes (paid in cigarettes), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the US McD's and UK McD's taste entirely different

but on a street level???

Rev. PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

I guess this thread is too goofy to take seriously but for the most part I agree with the sentiment, and am doing my part to shift the focus of blog and print media attention on Baltimore's urban music toward more of the stuff that people who actually live here listen to. and fwiw, everything you hear that's 'produced' by Lacrate is actually done by Debonair Samir (or at least, that's the impression I got when I asked Samir and he likened their working relationship to Babyface/L.A. Reid, with Lacrate handling the business side).

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 22 July 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Anyway, I think it's pretty easy to see why Spank Rock and XXXchange are getting all the attention. The singles, mixes and album are SPECTACULAR."

there stuff is widely distributed, you can find it in stores, and it's sent to critics. thus, the attention. i don't know if its a quality issue. though i like the spank rock album. actually, i have no idea about xxxchange, so scratch that. but it's true of the spank rock stuff. the one and only record store where i live sells their singles and album.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 22 July 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think XXXchange is just a member of Spank Rock the group. (one of the crazier things to me about the whole Spank Rock phenomenon is that there was a rapper named Shank Rock that was moving units in Baltimore 5-6 years ago with a song called "The Baby Mama Hitta," I guess just a weird coincidence.)

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 22 July 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

XXXchange is Spank Rock's producer, I think...

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 22 July 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, scott's comment is fairly accurate - they really have far wider distribution than most of the b-more stuff, which is self-produced - working in a store in central VA, we get a lot of Go-Go and DC-based club tracks, but even the most basic of gutter twelves is almost impossible to find. Yet, we stock the hollertronix / lacrate / spank rock stuff, mostly because of distribution concerns. DC-based stuff comes out on Liason, which is a fairly sketchy concern (lots of white labels, boots, etc) - I imagine there's a similar label handling B-more stuff but we don't have connects with whoever it is.

Relying on iD for accurate coverage of US club music is like asking for hair care tips from a Denny's waitress.

Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Saturday, 22 July 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

you could probably just call scottie b or technics for wholesale prices i bet. and other people as well. those two have left numbers and e-mails on the baltimore thread. most dudes have myspace/websites by now.

i was lucky in philly. they always had a good supply of up-to-date baltimore stuff. going back to the 90's.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 22 July 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

i heard some shit in bmore after a gig my band had done, & it wuz BRUTAL ONSLAUGHT. maybe it was 'gutter'?

noizem duke (noize duke), Saturday, 22 July 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

the "gutter music" thing isn't really an offshoot or its own genre, it's just the title of one or two records. Baltimore club music is a fully formed genre with dozens of artists and thousands of records. for those 2 things to have a roughly equal presence in the media is ridiculous to me.

but yeah, a lot of hometown club DJs/labels have sites now, many of which sell CDs or vinyl or mp3s:
DJ Technics
Unruly Records
K-Swift the Club Queen
Doo Dew Kidz
Harm Squad Ent.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 22 July 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Titschy you said this: everyone saying i cant say anything about this because i live in england

but the actual because, of course, is this: on a street level, from what i know from people that live there, they dont mean much at all to the real bmore scene

The Baby Mama Hitta (RoqueStrew), Sunday, 23 July 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

oh boy, I inspired a wacky ILM handle, kill me now.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 23 July 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Haha--only temporarily, Al! And if it diminishes the guilt any, know that you were but a conduit

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Sunday, 23 July 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

al check your email...hahah

LeCoq (LeCoq), Sunday, 23 July 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://bp2.blogger.com/_wJGwMfSe-dY/Rg4TY4Bz9hI/AAAAAAAAATY/UKUQBmgQDXw/s1600/438687280_429ee21981.jpg

titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 8 September 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://board.low-bee.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71199

average gangsta rap from average gangstas (deej), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

lmao

average gangsta rap from average gangstas (deej), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

Todd James wrote:
MilkCrate sticks up Rap Bandit

This is pretty funny. I designed the Rap Bandit a long time ago, the design ran with the column in the Source and then in Vibe. I’ve seen it in funny places, drawn on a wall all the way out in Liverpool, England and tattooed on people, even next to a Chain 3 piece (that was an honor) . Last night I get this image of the Rap Bandit on a t-shirt some kid’s selling, the irony is that Keo sent it to me, and the same kid who made this shirt also made a shirt with a photo of Keo, Pete Nice, and Myzer on it but didn’t really know any of them back in the day. I think if you’re going to steal other people’s work at least make it your own and by that I don’t mean slap your logo on it. He could have changed the pencil to a gun since it beneath the Bandit he wrote “stick up kids”. So I went to the site where the shirt gets sold, and how funny it was to find a bit of philosophy on creative theft from Jim Jarmusch ( Who I’m sure hadn’t intended to inspire this type of thing, but who knows?) “It’s not where you take things from it’s where you take things to.” Well in this case the work was taken through Illustrator and Auto Trace .

average gangsta rap from average gangstas (deej), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:16 (sixteen years ago)


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