without any doubt this is my favorite thing he's ever done. the concise, incendiary fucked up metric rock, Fripp's multitracked guitars, the tone on his leads blending with streams of Frippertronic ambience, the genre hopping from track to track, the weird weird songs, this is everything he does on fire
the dealbreaker for me with almost all Crimson is always the vocals (except the first one), but this album gives you Peter Hammil, Terre Roche, Peter Gabriel, and one other guy
even if you have an unpleasant nature and dislike people, this is no obstacle to work
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jeff K (jeff k), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
I will admit to an extreme allergy to Hall in general, I think this record was saved when Hammil re-recorded most of his tracks. But Hammil is the anti-Hall, it might be a very small subset of people to whom both vocalists appeal
having the 2 versions of this album on 2 discs is a good move -- Hammil fans of noise get disc 1, Hall fans get disc 2
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link
But then it hit me that what makes the track is the contrast between Fripp's stark guitar accompaniment and Hall's virtuosically florid soul melismas -- particularly, when you realize that Hall's speaking a language and channeling something Fripp could never express himself. Exposure, indeed.
Here's a long interview with Fripp about the record: http://www.dgmlive.com/dl.php?tickle=yes&track=1202
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 16 June 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 16 June 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 16 June 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 17 June 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link
"Ooh! Mr. Fripp" is one of the tracks on Thrang Thrang Gozinbulx, that excellent live League Of Gentlemen LP. But unfortunately, that entire album is totally instrumental; so even if it's the same track, it's NOT the same. (Damn, now I wanna hear that that Roches track too!)
― Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Saturday, 17 June 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link
FWIW, in that interview, you have to hear how he says, "oooooohhh, Mistah Fripp!" It's outstanding; Fripp is unabashedly flirting his ass off with the interviewer, who seems totally unfazed by the ludicrousness of his whole "Drive to 1981"/nervous breakdown/new age mumbo jumbo. She tries to end the interview, but he insists on sticking around -- he clearly thinks his schtick works with this woman. And who knows? Maybe it did...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 17 June 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link
i only know the vinyl version of 'disengage', but i always loved the song. Yeah, i agree with this, preferring Hall doing something different to Hammill as usual.
I always loved all the different directions of this lp except for the Peter Gabriel thingey (though i like the Fripp-produced PG2).
One of my favourite lps.
― george gosset (gegoss), Saturday, 17 June 2006 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Rerelease is exciting indeed. The title track is one of my favorite vocal performances.
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link
synapse magazine 1979 interview
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 20 July 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Greatest album ever. OK, top ten, at least.
Also, could never choose between Hammill and Hall. Two of the finest singers to ever step into a vocal booth. I think there's more crossover in those fanbases than you might think.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:05 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k96zkPrXQh4
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
Exposure now on Spotify, along with two Soundscape releases. Fripp/Eno, Fripp/Cross and Sylvian/Fripp releases had been added already in the past weeks.
― Captain Corelli's Mandalorian (WmC), Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
which version of Exposure did they put up?
― akm, Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
(and Damage...assuming it's the second version of that)
― akm, Saturday, 16 November 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
xp 2-disc version. I don't know the difference btw versions of Damage.
― Captain Corelli's Mandalorian (WmC), Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
one is a complete remix and may even have some different takes on it and also includes a different song or two but I can't recall off the top of my head what; song order completely different as well. the first one out was handled by Fripp and Sylvian did the second one. I vastly prefer the first one but that may only be because I was so familiar with it.
― akm, Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
They also have The First Day, and Damage is a live album with much of the same material, from what I read.
― Captain Corelli's Mandalorian (WmC), Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
That's awesome.
Yes, it's the 2-disc with the Daryl Hall vox.
Damage is, indeed, the second version which swaps out the (less long but still) long "Darshan" for the knotty "Jean the Birdman," has a lusher Sylvian mix instead of the more austere one by Fripp's guy and a slightly different running order.
The two Soundscapes releases are very good. At the End of Time is a compendium of his "Churchscapes" tour of British cathedrals which was incredible. As I've said elsewhere on ILM, after initially thinking Soundscapes was a pale digital imitation of Frippertronics, I've actually come to enjoy listening to them more. They are really intense and really deep -- and that tour (which I bought for super cheap on DGM) is their peak.
Some of the more recent Fripp and Eno is up as well. After initially being really disappointed in Equatorial Stars (tho I think I gave it a C, not a D IIRC), I came around. Beyond Even I haven't heard but based on the first few tracks it sounds like a lot of the working tapes during the 90s, with more beats, etc. That stuff is less essential.
Timing is good on all this as Sid Smith's KC biography is being updated and reissued this month.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
Sorry, WmC -- just realized you mentioned the Fripp and Eno. I'm pretty sure the Cross record was the only thing up for a long time but I hadn't seen anything else drop. So good to see -- I don't actually own most of these so I'll be I'll be looking forward to digging in.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
The Cross album is interesting (endless iterations on Starless) though maybe not as interesting as it should be. I'd still be down with seeing Cross rejoin the current KC lineup.
― akm, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
re: the two exposure versions, I'm still partial to the originally released version because of familiarity and I also like Peter Hammill yelping on Disengage, it sounds like a better fit to me, though the Hall version of Chicago is maybe better. Anyway, absolutely stonking classic album, one of the best albums Fripp ever released.
― akm, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
the version with Hall is actually the *third* version aiui. this webpage is good on the differences between the first and second versions, both of which feature Hammill on vocals on both Disengage and Chicago:https://www.elephant-talk.com/exposure/expodiff.htm
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
There's no other recent-ish Robert Fripp thread that I can find but I gotta point folks to the Music For Quiet Moments series Fripp has been releasing weekly since the start of pandemic. There's over thirty of them now - the last few have been great sounds for the day.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link
lol this is maybe the third Robert Fripp related thread that was bumped this week!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
Ye gods!
Robert Fripp / Exposures 32-disc box set. Basically, everything between King Crimson Mark I and Mark II.
This is, of course, completely insane. And yet, I kinda want it.
CD 1Major Loops I
CD 2Major Loops II
CD 3Major Loops III
CD 1 – 3 comprise some of the Major Loops for Frippertronics. Disc 3 also includes the loops for the trackBreathless. Discs 1 – 3 – Material previously unreleased
CD 4NYC: Exposure Master Loops and Lost in the Bush of GhostsThe master loops for Exposure plus loops recorded for the David Byrne/Brian Eno album My Life in the Bush ofGhosts
CD 4 – Previously unreleased, except. Bush of Ghosts loops previously available as a download fromdgmlive.com under a later title. New to disc
CD 5Last of the Great New York Heartthrobs, Plus: Exposure alt takes/rough mixes
Disc 5 contains the original album running order/featured vocalists/original lyrics in some instances (with theoriginal proposed album title) as mastered in August 1978, taken from the master tape and accompanied by aselection of alternate takes and rough mixes from the album sessions.
Disc 5 – Previously unreleased, except select tracks from additional material section previously available asdownloads from dgmlive.com. New to disc
CD 6Exposure First Edition, Plus:The 2006 master/running order of the First Edition of Exposure plus loops recorded for Here Comes the Flood.
CD 6 – Previously released except Flood Loops
CD 7Exposure Third Edition, Plus:The 2006 master/running order of the Third Edition of Exposure plus the additional material from that release –album songs with Daryl Hall/ Terre Roche vocals, plus material from Peter Gabriel II, Daryl Hall’s Sacred Songsand a previously unreleased mix of Here Comes the Flood from Exposure
CD 7 – Previously released except Here Comes the Flood mix.
CD 8Exposure Fourth Edition, 2021 Stereo Mix, Plus:Full album newly mixed from the original multi-track tapes by Steven Wilson following the First Editionrunning order and all alternate vocal performances also newly mixed and included.
CD 8 – New mixes/Previously unreleased
CD 9Breathless or How I Gradually Internalised The Social Reality Of Manhattan Until It Seemed ToBe A Very Reasonable Way Of Life, Plus:Using another abandoned title for the album (as does disc 5) and following, approximately, that album runningorder using Steven Wilson 2021 mixes and, mostly, Daryl Hall vocal performances. Also includes a sequence ofpreviously unheard loops.
Disc 9 – New mixes/Previously unreleased
CD 10 Frippertronics: The Kitchen, NYC, 5/2/78, Disc OneCD 11 Frippertronics: The Kitchen, NYC, 5/2/78, Disc TwoCD 12 Frippertronics: Wintergarden, Copenhagen, 18/5/79 and Polydor, Paris 23/5/79CD 13 Frippertronics: Le Pretzel Enchainé, Montreal 19/8/79New masters of Frippertronics’ shows, including the legendary first NYC shows at The Kitchen and two showsfrom the tour to support the Exposure album release that included performances in restaurants, art galleries,record company offices, radios stations and record shops.
CDs 10 – 13 – Previously available as downloads from dgmlive.com. New to disc
Disc 14God Save the Queen/Under Heavy Manners 2021 remaster, Plus:GSTQ/UHM newly mastered from the original master tapes by David Singleton. Material released on disc forthe first time in many years, plus a previously unreleased track from the same sessions, a single edit of UHM andGod Save the King from the 1985 Fripp/LOG CD compilation.
CD 14 - Material previously released in different masters/formats.
CD 15Discotronics/UHM 2021:UHM and session tracks extended versions and newly mixed tracks from the original multi-track tapes by StevenWilson.
CD 15 – New mixes/Previously unreleased
CD 16Under Heavy Management/EurotronicsPreviously unreleased tracks from recording sessions of the era newly mixed by Steven Wilson and compiledinto the equivalent of two imaginary vinyl length albums.
Disc 16 – New mixes/Previously unreleased
CD 17The League of Gentlemen – Paradise Club, Boston, 26/6/80 (2nd show), Plus:Recorded just one week into the band’s sole US tour. Also included are two rehearsal performances includingthe LOG take on Disengage.
CD 17 – Previously available as a download from dgmlive.com. New to disc.
CD 18Thrang Thrang Gozinbulx and The League of Gentlemen (1985 CD mixes)DGM released compilation of LOG live plus the original album tracks from the 1985 CD compilation GSTK
CD 18 – Material previously released in different masters/formats.
CD 19The League of Gentlemen – 2021 stereo mixes, Plus:Newly mixed from the original multi-track tapes by Steven Wilson, including several studio recordingspreviously heard on live releases only and alternate mixes of five tracks.
CD 19 – New mixes/Previously unreleased
CD 20Let The Power Fall, 2021, Plus:Newly mastered from the original master tapes by David Singleton and on disc for the first time in many yearsplus a single edit and two earlier mixes of another track titled 1984 at the time of mixing.
CD 20 – Material previously released in different masters/formats and/or previously unreleased.
CD 21Washington Square Church, August 1981, 2021 mixesRecordings drawn from a series of concerts at the New York City venue (the full series appears on Blu-Ray,Disc 27). Newly mixed and mastered from the original tapes by David Singleton to produce the finest exampleof Frippertronics in performance.
Disc 21 – New mixes/Previously unreleased
Disc 22 DVDExposure – Stereo editions and DTS Surround SoundExposure Fourth Edition – Steven Wilson mixes plus additional material in 24/96 hi-res stereo and DTS 5.1Surround Sound.Last of the New York Heartthrobs in 24/96 hi-res stereoExposure Third Edition plus additional material in 24/48 hi-res stereo
Disc 23 DVDGod Save the Queen/Under Heavy Manners – expanded/The League of Gentlemen –Stereo/Quad/5.1 DTS Surround SoundGSTQ – David Singleton, 2021 master, UHM 2021 plus additional material, League of Gentlemen 2021 mixesby Steven Wilson in 24/96 hi-res stereo.GSTQ in DTS Surround Sound (quad 4.1) mixes by David SingletonGSTQ plus additional material in DTS 5.1 Surround Sound mixes by Steven WilsonLeague of Gentlemen studio recordings in DTS 5.1 Surround Sound mixes by Steven Wilson
Disc 24 DVDLet The Power Fall/Washington Square ChurchLTPF in 24/96 and WSC in 24/48 hi-res masters/mixes by David SingletonLTPF/WSC in DTS Surround Sound (quad 4.1) mixes by David Singleton.
Disc 25 Exposure/Under Heavy Manners – Blu-Ray IExposure Fourth EditionExposure Fifth Edition (running order as per First/Fourth Edition but with the inclusion of Daryl Hall lead vocalson select tracks)Breathless or How I Gradually Internalised The Social Reality Of Manhattan Until It Seemed To Be A VeryReasonable Way Of LifeUnder Heavy Manners and Additional Material from the recording sessions2021 Masters/Mixes in 24/96 in hi-res stereo, DTS-HD 5.1 Surround Sound and Dolby Atmos mixed andproduced by Steven WilsonGod Save the Queen2021 Masters in 24/96 hi-res stereo and DTS-HD Surround Sound (quad) mixed and produced by DavidSingletonExposure: Additional Material/Sessions/Under Heavy Management/EurotronicsNewly mixed material from the sessions in 24/96 hi-res stereo in recording date sequence and sequence as perDisc 16 mixed and produced by Steven WilsonLast of the New York HeartthrobsExposure Second EditionUnder Heavy Manners – Original Mix (David Singleton 2021 Master)Master Recordings in 24/96 hi-res stereoExposure First EditionExposure Third Edition plus Additional MaterialMaster Recordings in 24/48 hi-res stereo
Disc 26 The DGM Frippertronics’ Archive Volume I – Blu-Ray IIDisc 27 The DGM Frippertronics’ Archive Volume II – Blu-Ray IIIThe Complete DGM Archive of Frippertronics loops, studio and live recordings 1977 – 1983 in 24/48 hi-resstereo
Disc 28 Let The Power Fall/Washington Square Church/The League of Gentlemen Blu-Ray IVThe League of Gentlemen2021 Masters/Mixes in 24/96 in hi-res stereo, DTS-HD 5.1 Surround Sound and Dolby Atmos, AdditionalMaterial in 24/96 hi-res stereo mixed and produced by Steven WilsonLet The Power Fall2021 Masters in 24/192 hi-res stereo, DTS-HD Surround Sound (Quad) mixed and produced by David Singleton.Original Master plus Additional Material in 24/96 hi-res stereoWashington Square Church2021 Masters in 24/48 hi-res stereo and DTS-HD Surround Sound (Quad) mixed and produced by DavidSingletonGod Save the KingThe 1985 Robert Fripp/League of Gentlemen compilation Masters in 16/48 stereo
Discs 22 – 28 – All material new to disc in these formats, mixes, audio quality
Disc 29 (CD) Resplendent in DivergenceA collection of Frippertronics that appeared as individual tracks on compilations, other albums and the DGMwebsite assembled and mastered by Alex R. Mundy at DGM.
Disc 29 (CD) – Previously released, some material new to disc
Disc 30 (CD) Blasts and Blasms – Sessions, Jams and RehearsalsDisc 31 (CD) More Blasts, More Blasms – Sessions, Jams and RehearsalsTwo discs of recordings and elements of recordings from various points during the Exposure sessions giving aninsight into the process that led to the album. Assembled and mastered by Alex R. Mundy at DGM.
Discs 30/31 – Some material previously available as downloads at dgmlive.com, most new to disc.
Disc 32 (CD) The League of Gentlemen – Royal Exeter, Bournemouth, 21/9/80, John Peel broadcast, 17/11/80The League of Gentlemen’s autumn tour of the UK included some of the short-lived band’s most energisedperformances. This newly mastered audience recording is one of the few recorded examples of that tour. Alsoincluded are recordings from LOG rehearsal tapes made by the band & first broadcast on the John Peel Show onthe BBC in November 1980.
Disc 32 – Some material previously available as a download from dgmlive.com. New to disc.
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 13 March 2022 08:11 (two years ago) link
The lad doesn't do things by halves, that's for sure.
― should we think of a new name for krautrock (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 March 2022 08:20 (two years ago) link
Dag, Fripp.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 March 2022 12:14 (two years ago) link
Holy heck
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:25 (two years ago) link
Headline: Robert Fripp Crushed in Massive Box Set Collapse
As far as I can tell, though, this doesn't include the original mix of The League of Gentlemen LP? Is that going to be on the revised 33 CD version?
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link
Goodness!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link
CD 5: Last of the Great New York Heartthrobs - Previously unreleased, the original album running order/featured vocalists/original lyrics in some instances (with the original proposed album title) as mastered in August 1978, taken from the master tape
Is this basically what would have come out had Daryl Hall's management not intervened? If so, I hope it gets its own standalone release for those of us who can't splurge.
Beyond that, discs 1-4 sounds like mana for anyone who wants to play around with those loops.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 13 March 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link
correct, the original The League of Gentlemen LP is not included in this, for some reason. I read some explanation somewhere but it was weaksauce. There was plenty of room for it.
― akm, Sunday, 13 March 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link
Maybe the League of Gentlemen LP is going to get its own 25 disc boxed set.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 March 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link
For whatever reason Dripp does t find those “indiscreet” tracks (which are assemblages off people talking) Important. They ARE funny.
― akm, Monday, 14 March 2022 05:29 (two years ago) link
It wasn’t just Hall. I believe Debbie Harry was on Heartthrobs – perhaps doing I Feel Love? Fripp also supposedly shot the album cover at Radio City Music Hall of him with the Rockettes. Notwithstanding the cost, I’m definitely franxious for this release.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 14 March 2022 11:45 (two years ago) link
I believe the new box set marks the first CD release of God Save the Queen / Under Heavy Manners. When I was in high school around 2004/05 and first getting into Fripp/Crimson, I went over to the house of a friend whose cool dad had a great record collection. He played us that record, which I had no idea existed, and the "Discotronics" side kind of blew my mind. More jerky new wave than disco and definitely proto-Discipline-era Crimson, complete with an extra-yelpy David Byrne on "Under Heavy Manners." So I'm rerally looking forward to the extended Discotronics sessions on this box...
― J. Sam, Friday, 25 March 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link
TIL Joanna Walton (credited w/backing vox and uncredited w/lyrics) was killed in the Pan Am Lockerbie bombing.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:22 (one year ago) link