Primal Scream's "Vanishing Point": Classic or Dud?

i'd say Echo Dek

Kowalski, for instance, would be/is a great track,
but why does the guy have to have his voice mixed so prominently into the front whispering some nonsense

Also, are they sampling Can on that track?

And, haha, sure as night follows day, here I am to say that BG has indeed sadly declined into being a bigoted, ill-informed coke casualty whose mouth moves a few days before his brain.

OTM

My favourite Scream album, and really, a minimal amount of filler. Perhaps 'Medication' is the weakest track, given that it's just a rehash of 'Rocks'. 'Star' isn't my favourite track by a long shot, but it's not shit. Haven't heard Echo Dek, due to it being a highly-priced import, but I guess with the internet I could have a stab at finding it cheap.

Any one know if this works: Assuming the Wizard of Oz/Pink Floyd thing works, what other combos would you try? ?

I love this album, but I don't have a problem with Gillespie, obviously. I wonder if people think it's one of their best because he seems to have the least involvement with it.

If They Move, Kill 'Em is amazing, but the Shields remix on XTRMNTR is even better.

'medication' is utter shit, but it's the only properly bad track on the album. 'star' is probably gillespie's lyrical nadir, and i've never been able to get behind it, but ech, i can just about ignore him.

the filler tracks are 'get duffy' and the interminable 'trainspotting'. they are what they are. the main problem i always had with 'trainspotting' was it was 18 months old when the lp came out.

I heard some of the new album in a shop earlier on. I am sorry to report that I liked it. There were some twats doing football tricks in Virgin for some kind of publicity stunt, so suddenly weedy songs about junkies seemed like a good idea.

Great music, great visuals (is it done by the same people who do Blood & Fire's artwork?), great production (whatever happened to Brendan Lynch?)

I like Vanishing Point, but I guess I don't really want to listen to it, though I listened to Trainspotting the other week. I still love Screamadelica.

I've just fought my way through the latest album. I find it such a pity, because they'd so much like to be a great rock band, and I'd like to hear a great rock album, but they just don't seem to be able to make one. I'm afraid this might just about be their worst record.

haha otm

Funnily enough, it's just struck me as odd that the other thing I bought today was the Stones' Sympathy for the Devil film, which has just been released on DVD. I saw this when at University and it's basically just about 12 different versions of Sympathy for the Devil, so just like Screamdelica then...
-- KeefW (m...), June 5th, 2006.

1) no
2) no
3) wot a shit film!
4) no

Ignoring the PRML SCRM Live in Japan thing...

I have a soft spot for Evil Heat, it feels relaxed and when I need that it's great to play it loud.

on-topic: I like Vanishing Point. Nothing more, nothing less.

no. or not by far anyway (+ i no likey live albums). bham's characterization is good.

burning wheel > kill all hippes
accelerator > get duffy
kowalski > everything! (for sentimental reasons)
star = swastika eyes
if they move > pills
blood money = out of the void
stuka > keep your dreams
insect royalty > medication
mbv arkestra > motorhead (really like motorhead though)
swastika eyes = Trainspotting
how do i shot speed kill light > long life

i really like 'vanishing point', i've decided.

Surprised by how much love there is on this thread. I like the record too, it's just very...Un-ILX

Why'd you say that? I rate it higher than Screamadelica and XTRMNTR.

CLASSIC!!!

It's tough for me to choose between this album and XTRMNTR, but some days I think this is the superior record.

I love both far, far more than Screamadelica too, which I don't think has actually aged all that well.

it's not as aggro as XTRMNTR

Vanishing point ans xtrmntr sucha great pair of records, with echo dek wonderful in between. Shame it all went downhill after that.

so, what did ever happen to Brendan Lynch? His Wiki page lacks detail, to say the least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Lynch_(music_producer)

Agreed, two great albums, agreed, never able to get into Screamadelica. Evil Heat has some really good shit on it, too ('The Lord Is My Shotgun' is a super hot track).

Oh, yeah, Echo Dek was good, too!

My first exposure was seeing 'Rocks Off' on 120 Minutes and wondering, who are these clowns? I kinda couldn't believe it was the same band when I heard the Trainspotting soundtrack.

Oh, I just pretend the whole Give Out But Don't Give Up period never existed.

so, what did ever happen to Brendan Lynch? His Wiki page lacks detail, to say the least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Lynch_(music_producer)

― mahb, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:13 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No idea, I remember he worked on XTRMNTR and Paul Weller's Heliocentric, both of which came out in 2000, and then I can't bring to mind anything that he's done after that, which is a huge shame because I really liked his production style.

Clicked on thread but then decided I don't really want to know if you are lonely why it is near top of New Answers. k thx bye.

Oh, I just pretend the whole Give Out But Don't Give Up period never existed.

this album really is a miss but there are a couple bright spots - I like some of the single remixes.

Medication is the best, they just love being the stones

so, what did ever happen to Brendan Lynch?

seem to recall dj food crafting a mix out of the best stuff by BL as he had a definite sound.

ah ha ..

https://www.discogs.com/Strictly-Kev-Lynch-Party-Mix-Part-1/release/3501486

available online

https://soundcloud.com/ninja-tune/solid-steel-radio-show-10-6

Society are 24-year-old singer Jamie Girdler and producer Brendan Lynch

http://www.thebeatjuice.com/trax/2015/10/27/13377/take-a-first-listen-to-societys-the-fear-the-hate/

Vanishing Point is my favorite PS album, but Echo Dek is in a close 2nd. I may even prefer Echo Dek, but I haven't played either in a little bit.

I may even prefer Echo Dek

tis a brilliant remix/redux album ..

welcome to the world of on-u sound.

just to say that following this thread bump, i grabbed that dj food mix of BL productions and its rather bloody good.

(kev told me he was going to do one, but i forgot all about it !)

The band were pretty great sounding live around 97 and for the next couple of years. A really dub like sound in the mix.
I still find Bobby's voice really thin. But still hoping for more live sets from that era to appear.

I was surprised to read Alan McGee saying that he thought Bobby was a natural singer in the Creation Stories book. Never thought of it as a very strong point for him.

He's a fucking awful singer. Good frontman / figurehead / focus of attention, I guess. But thin, reedy, asthmatic singer.

I don't think he's anywhere near a good singer either, but then I don't listen to Primal Scream for the singing.

as long as Gillespie sticks to his role of looking cool and occasionally yelping things he's fine but as a singer qua singer yeah his voice is p weak and who listens to these records for the singing

My favourite tracks of theirs are often instrumentals!

That McGee should be praising Gillespie in any way, no matter how WTF, shouldn't really come as any huge shock... those guys have been great friends for decades.

which is one reason why Echo Dek is in the running for their best album.

^^^ otm.