Albums where the second half is the best one

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In the CD age, acts have had a tendency to put most of the best tracks at the beginning of the CD, but even before that, an album would more often have the best songs in side 1 rather than side 2 ("Joshua Tree", for instance).

This thread, however, is devoted to the exceptions - that is, albums that are obviously better on side 2.

I can think of a few examples of this. "Foxtrot" by Genesis is rather obvious, since "Supper's Ready" is the best thing they ever did and takes up most of side 2. Also, "Synchronicity" is an obvious choice for most, and unless you hate ballads you could also make a case for "Atlantic Crossing"

Any other examples?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Beach Boys - Surf's Up

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The Stone Roses debut
Closer

dr x o'skeleton, Monday, 20 March 2006 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"yeah me too" by gaunt, the second side straight crushes the first

chris besinger (chris besinger), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Low. If Foxtrot can be used as an example then Meddle and the first Utopia album have to be in there too.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I second "Meddle". "Low" depends which Bowie you prefer, but I agree regarding "Low" and also feel like adding "Heroes".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Abbey Road. Side one has two terrific John songs, which bookend some Paul, George and Ringo tunes that don't do much for me (Paul, you never should have written "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"). Side two is terrific from start to finish, with one of George's best songs, and then the "medley," which fits a bunch of songs (song fragments?) seamlessly. Paul's vocal on "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window" more than makes up for "Hammer." And even "Her Majesty" is better than most of the songs on side one.

James, Monday, 20 March 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Love Da Capo

(runs off)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Kid A

Tom White (lunaticgrass), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Disintegration

Dan (By Miles) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

nice call on abbey road. I couldn't agree more.

moxie alvarez, Monday, 20 March 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Parliament's Osmium really takes off about halfway through.

Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Berlin ?

snowballing (snowballing), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

The Melvins - "Lysol"

r lynch (solarmanite), Monday, 20 March 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

ride NOWHERE

piscesboy, Monday, 20 March 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Even tho all the singles were on the 1st side I always enjoyed the second side of Nevermind much much more.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 20 March 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

the dammed - the dammed

JB Young (JB Young), Monday, 20 March 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Talking Heads - '77 and More Songs

Mekons' Fear and Whiskey and Shudder to Think's Pony Express Record never really take off until the second half.

ajlee, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Walk On but the last few songs on On the Beach are what make it a classic.

Period period period (Period period period), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless

fables, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Sgt. Pepper would be my nominated Beatles album in this category.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoever submitted Disintegration is on crack. Equally good sides there.

Matt Carlson (mattsoncarlhew), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Orbital, "Snivilisation"

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

The new Graham Coxon

Dave Depper, Monday, 20 March 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I had this thought about a record released in 2004 or 2005. But now I can't remember what it was. Going to bug me all damn day, thanks Geir.

harshaw (jube), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Talking Heads - '77 and More Songs

Personally I think it applies even more to "Fear Of Music

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The second sides of both Fun House and White Light/White Heat have probably been played half-again times as many as the first sides, which translates to countless hundreds (thousands?) of playings in the 19.5 years since I first found 'em. The fact that both (second) sides have their own specific identity - 'saxophone side', '"Sister Ray"' side - is key.

Presumably neither LP is a particular Geir favourite!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Black Flag's "My War", depending on my mood.

And "The Las Vegas Story" by the Gun Club.

Raffles: Gentleman Thug (Raffles: The Gentleman Thug), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The National - Alligator

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Hotter than Hell-Kiss.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

comsat angels "waiting for a miracle" !

corey c (shock of daylight), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I prefer the second half of "Jordan...The Comeback", but as the singles are all in the first half, I may be in minority here.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway (in spite of the singles being in the first half): HOUNDS OF LOVE!

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Personally, I would disagree that Joshua Tree has the best material on Side 1. Definitely the radio hits, but I think Side 2 is far better as far as a cohesive unit of strong and powerful songs. Side 1 is the fluff and pomp.

Elastique (Elastique), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Another vote for Fear and Whiskey

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with Elastique, I much prefer the second side of the Joshua Tree .

T B (T B), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Notorious BIG- Ready to Die

Debatable of course, but Side two has the first couple of singles, "Juicy" and "Big Poppa," as well as my favorite
two songs on the CD--"Everyday Struggle" & "Unbelieveable."

ramon fernandez, Monday, 20 March 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

chameleons UK - strange times

first half is brilliant, but doesn't get classic until "swamp thing" in my opinion.

rockaction (rockaction), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Soft Machine- Third

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Revamping this thread because I listened to "Magical Mystery Tour" today, and while the title track, "Your Mother Should Know" and "The Fool On The Hill" are nice enough, it's still hard to argue with "Penny Lane, "Strawberry Fields Forever", "I Am The Walrus", "Hello Goodbye" and "All You Need Is Love". Probably the most obvious contender in the entire thread.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The 2nd side of Roxy Music's Stranded is much stronger that 1st.

Alex in SF, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Big Science

JTM, Sunday, 6 January 2008 06:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Big Science and this post:

The second sides of both Fun House and White Light/White Heat have probably been played half-again times as many as the first sides, which translates to countless hundreds (thousands?) of playings in the 19.5 years since I first found 'em. The fact that both (second) sides have their own specific identity - 'saxophone side', '"Sister Ray"' side - is key.

Presumably neither LP is a particular Geir favourite!

-- Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, March 20, 2006 2:05 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

are big YES. And Bad Moon Rising

Ivan, Sunday, 6 January 2008 07:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Hounds of Love

Bus Driver Stu, Sunday, 6 January 2008 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Not an orthodox album per se, but as listening experiences go, I'd cite Once Upon a Time/The Singles by Siouxsie & the Banshees (which is not to say that the first half is shit).

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 6 January 2008 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Slayer's Seasons in the Abyss.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Ritual de lo Habitual

mayhaps, Sunday, 6 January 2008 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Queen II is what leaps to my mind first. the first half is quite restrained and doesn't really have much Queen-ness.

aaron d.g., Sunday, 6 January 2008 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll agree with Queen II's second half being better, but I grew to quite like the first half (especially "Father to Son" and the song that comes after it). OTM about it not having what would later be considered the staples of Queen.

March of the Black Queen=\m/

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah Father To Son is by far my favourite song on the first half.

aaron d.g., Sunday, 6 January 2008 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

what's your opinion on the debut?

Queen II and Night at the OPera are my favorites, but I never could get into the original Queen album.

Some of the songs were quite good ("Keep Yourself Alive") but I found some of them to be way pedestrian compared to what would come later.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

The Melvins - "Lysol"

-- r lynch (solarmanite), Monday, March 20, 2006 3:58 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, the covers make this record!

69, Sunday, 6 January 2008 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Joy Division - Closer

rock_is_dead, Monday, 7 January 2008 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link

King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon
King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair
XTC - Wasp Star

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 7 January 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Led Zeppelin - III
Primus - Frizzle Fry

rockapads, Monday, 7 January 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Somebody probably said it upthread but On The Beach owns this thread (even though side 1 rules too)

also - Tattoo You?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 7 January 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

the smashing pumpkins - mellon collie and the infinite sadness (disc 2 = second half)

deerhunter - cryptograms

stephen, Monday, 7 January 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

rolling stones - exile on main street

Romeo Jones, Monday, 7 January 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

AC/DC ~ Back in Black
The Police ~ Synchronicity

AnthemForOne, Saturday, 24 April 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Always felt Boards Of Canada's "Music Has The Right To Children" gradually turned into realms of near-pop in it's 2nd half. The first half is intolerable under mainstream perspectives... weird, everlasting beats that don't really do so much in the melody-spectrum.

kelpolaris, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link

dj sprinkles - midtown 120 blues
neu! - 75 (by a fraction)

nakhchivan, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

sonic youth - sister
vu - white light

nakhchivan, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

all of 'music has the right' is great

nakhchivan, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Soft Machine- Third

― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:20 (4 years ago) Bookmark

sausage s4rgent (acoleuthic), Monday, 26 April 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Stevie Wonder - Talking Book and Innervisions

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Cosmo's Factory, Astral Weeks, In the Light.

slagterm, Monday, 26 April 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Nevermind is the correct answer to this thread.

Fellini.Kuti, Monday, 26 April 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The Beach Boys - Keeping The Summer Alive. Very dodgy album, but the really horrific stuff is arguably on side one. Side two is OK.

PaulTMA, Monday, 26 April 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Good Timing though.

village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 26 April 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

beck - midnite vultures

abanana, Monday, 26 April 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

The Queen Is Dead

I agree with Geir (tomofthenest), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Good Timin' is on L.A. (Light Album) which I reckon is 3/4 great (Sumahama included)

PaulTMA, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

have to disagree with 'stranded'. as good as that album is towards the end, it starts with one of the best opening trio of songs i can recall off the top of my head.

charlie h, Thursday, 28 October 2010 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

suicide's second album

WAKE UP SHEEPLEY (crüt), Thursday, 28 October 2010 08:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Nevermind is the correct answer to this thread.

― Fellini.Kuti, Monday, 26 April 2010 05:14 (6 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


^ beat me to it

your mum, Thursday, 28 October 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Orbital, "Snivilisation"

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, March 20, 2006 6:56 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

I'd say In Sides as well.

A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 28 October 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Portishead - Third belongs here as well

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

are the later tracks on nevermind really that much better? i mean, the thing kicks off pretty strongly.

charlie h, Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Portishead - Third belongs here as well

― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:06 (2 hours ago)

crashingly OTM

ukhhchavvin' (acoleuthic), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Of Montreal - Skeletal Lamping is one of the more extreme recent cases

ukhhchavvin' (acoleuthic), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I really like that 25 minute closer on the new Sufjan album, so maybe that. Haven't really listened to the rest of the album though.

sofatruck, Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah Yeah Yeahs-Fever to Tell

monster_xero, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a trick of a number of Classic albums: If it can end on a stunning track, the whole album becomes classic by association.

Mark G, Friday, 29 October 2010 08:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story

ithappens, Friday, 29 October 2010 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i find myself starting the trey songz album midway through as often as not: it opens with a few ok-to-good radio-friendly songs, sags in the middle, then gets pretty outré and compelling towards the end

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

are the later tracks on nevermind really that much better?

I am sure they are for those who hated the idea of Nirvana having catchy hit singles.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 29 October 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

every super furry animals album since Phantom Power has been like this. It's kind of frustrating.

peter in montreal, Friday, 29 October 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

high on fire's recent snakes for the divine ends with the two best songs on the album. so that.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 29 October 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I hope you're including Phantom Power in that, because it's got this trend more than the others - mediocre (save for Hello Sunshine and The Piccolo Snare) right up until Cityscape Skybaby, then killer for the rest

ukhhchavvin' (acoleuthic), Friday, 29 October 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I'm including Phantom Power and I agree that it does this more than the others

peter in montreal, Friday, 29 October 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Even "Radiator" is kinda backloaded, but that one has some good stuff earlier on too.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

never could decide about daydream nation, go back and forth. first LP's got "silver rocket", "the sprawl", "eric's trip" and "total trash", but the 2nd has "hey joni", "candle", "rain king" (forever), "hyperstation" and "eliminator jr." FITE

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

^ would be my favorite record ever. plus "providence" as a b-side.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

anyone who thinks nevermind is backloaded has no business listening to it

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

something I think Super Furry Animals would be a lot more popular if only they were better at track sequencing

peter in montreal, Friday, 29 October 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I would say the main reason for SFA not being as popular as they deserve is their lack of ability to pick the best singles.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

especially for the past three albums! single choices mostly killer up until and including RATW

ukhhchavvin' (acoleuthic), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

songbook 2 is gonna be kinda lame :(

ukhhchavvin' (acoleuthic), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway RATW is their only perfectly-sequenced record IMO, even guerrilla doesn't quite get it right

ukhhchavvin' (acoleuthic), Friday, 29 October 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

single choices mostly killer up until and including RATW

Other than "Demons" and maybe "Play It Cool", I feel the singles choices from "Radiator" were completely wrong. Just the fact that "She's Got Spies" was not a single. That one remains my fave SFA moment.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 30 October 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

There was some other thread where I said that the rule of thumb on the Pretenders s/t debut was that every track was better than the one preceding it.

I suppose that means that Side 2 >>>>>>> Side 1. Which it is.

Dodo Lurker (Slim and Slam), Saturday, 30 October 2010 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Tunnel of Love

smash williams, Monday, 16 January 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link


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