Recommend me something similar to Hole's 'Celebrity Skin'

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Also of course Billy Corgan was heavily involved, and you could probably cobble together a Smashing Pumpkins comp that sounded either a lot like Celebrity Skin or teenpop, except with Billy Corgan singing, i.e. much suckier.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

how was that auf der maur album? i know my hero chris goss had a hand in making it, but i never heard a copy.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

I was tempted to get it hoping it'd have some of that Celebrity Skin feel, but hearing the single killed any interest I had.

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

i just dug out 'celebrity skin' last week. i love the sound of it, i know what you mean. it's uneven, but the best tracks are so great. i listened to "awful" about 7 times in a row.

cheap trick and joan jett are obvious precedents, of course.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Maybe turn up the pre-amp gain on a Sheryl Crow album?

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the single was pretty eck.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Heaven Tonight" is licky as trips.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

:( @ PASSANTINO REMOVING HIS HOLE T-SHIRT PICTURE FROM HIS FACEPARTY ACCOUNT

LARRY O AND K DEF ARE : REAL LIVE, Monday, 13 March 2006 18:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Pristeens

mcd (mcd), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

CS is 100 times bettah than Live tru Dis and the truly rotten solo album…

veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Celebrity Skin" is fantastic, I didn't know anyone else here liked it! I can't think of what else is like it (Cheap Trick?). That was always the dilemma back when I was a huge fan of Hole, during the interminable wait for a new record you'd search for a similar band & none of them were near as good.

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Debating about ordering Celebrity Skin. Half.com has it for a buck.

Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

Lighting your genitals on fire

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

you'd hate the auf der maar album, scott. unless your problem with qotsa is that josh homme's voice doesn't sound weak enough. its an album by a celebrity bass player from bands not known for their amazing rhythm sections.

ant@work, Monday, 13 March 2006 20:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

I find Celebrity Skin really fascinating. It's so pop but it does some unusual things with its own popness - on the most pop (and generally my favourite) songs ("Hit So Hard", "Malibu", "Boys on the Radio") you have these awesome crushing choruses but Courtney's still to punk or something to go for the jugular with huge throaty vocals the way she might on one of the harder songs. So instead it's just like everything gets turned up a notch: esp. the amazing guitar riffs, the buzzing bass, the sighing backing vocals (set at the perfect volume so that they bleed into Courtney's voice without drowning them out), while Courtney's almost dully intoning what sounds like timeless wisdom over the top (this in the vocals more than the lyrics, though the lyrics are definitely her best).

"Boys On The Radio" in particular is amazing for this: it just keeps spiralling, right up to that little drum break on "Baby I've gone away!".

So you get this opposition whereby Courtney is immediately identifiable within (and with) these songs, and very much owns these songs both vocally and lyrically, and yet on many of the best tracks she's kinda decentered, just another component... she can let go in a way that Billy Corgan would never be able to (either for control reasons or because of the nature of his voice), and it means that even the songs he cowrites never really make me think of the Smashing Pumpkins unless I search for connections.

That decenteredness is maybe why I half-heartedly claimed on the teenpop thread that Celebrity Skin is more of a pop album than I Am Me. It's not, really, but it does strike me as bearing a strong similarity to the Max Martin golden age: these glittering architectural structures that the listener and the vocalist both become ensnared in, these perfectly constructed pop songs with inevitable tidal peaks and valleys.

Whereas, despite Frank's claim that it would be nice to see Ashlee's vocals carry her choruses more, I actually find Ashlee's vocals to be always very dominant, always front and center, it's hard to get behind them or beside them, to be a spectator alongside Ashlee rather than a spectator of Ashlee (not that you'd necessarily want it to change, this is just how I Am Me and Celebrity Skin differ).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

Really? You don't see a connection between CS and, say, "1979"? I think the latter is built to accomodate Corgan's vocal qualities, but it's not that far away from "Malibu." Like the nighttime version of that or something.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

Babes in Toyland.

*shudders*

yikes.

Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Miles and miles of perfect skin / I swear I do I'll fit right in"

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

i can hear billy corgan in "celebrity skin," and it's the stuff i actually like about billy corgan -- hooks, brash bombast, pop sheen -- minus the stuff i don't like about billy corgan, which is...billy corgan. but it's not like it's just a smashing pumpkins record with courtney singing. she's the completely dominant personality on it.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

i mean, just the title "celebrity skin" is so great, putting herself on the cover with her hollywood makeover and new tits and then starting the album with those lines about "make me over/i'm all i wanna be," this idea of the fake-plastic-self as liberation. but then she never really breaks free, it's all kind of doomed.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

xpost

Celebrity Skin also adds a golden sugary layer of Fleetwood Mac-isms. The harmonies are everywhere on this

the sighing backing vocals (set at the perfect volume so that they bleed into Courtney's voice without drowning them out), while Courtney's almost dully intoning what sounds like timeless wisdom over the top

Otm

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Here's where I admit I don't actually feel anything for this album. I don't *hate* it but I don't love it either.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

not enough billy corgan for you!

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

it ain't anywhere near as good as a fleetwood mac album, but, on the other hand, it ain't nearly as bad as a smashing pumpkins album either. so, in a roundabout way, i'm with ned! ( i wanted to love it for some reason, but never did.)

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

i can hear billy corgan in "celebrity skin," and it's the stuff i actually like about billy corgan -- hooks, brash bombast, pop sheen -- minus the stuff i don't like about billy corgan, which is...billy corgan.

i promised i'd stop saying OTM, but jeez, OTM.

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

this album WAS my '98/'99 in so many ways. looking back, i think courtney and i had a lot in common during those couple of years.

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

I hesitate to ask which suicidal grunge rocker you dated.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

that was my 1994 (no, not really).

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

Courtney and Melissa always striked me as kinda like (crap sports analogy) a good striker partnership. Like, Courtney had been up there on her own for eight or so years taking all the publicity for the band, and then along comes Melissa to take a lot of the burden off, give the band a second visual outlet, and add that whole slut/virgin aesthetic to the band which was always missing (listen to Melissa's "la la la" backing vocals on the single, totally underrated).

Anyway, I do love this album (less than I did when I was doing the tortured 16 year old thing, but still). My favourite track is "Northern Star", Courtney was never more goff.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

not enough billy corgan for you!

I think the critical line being taken here of 'it's like Billy/Pumpkins but I can stand it' is an amusing kinda negative wish fulfillment. "Ugh, I can't be seen to actually like anything Corgan did, thank god there's a way out for me!" ;-)

I myself have no particular interest in meta-1978s but I tend to prefer when Daft Punk does it instead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

Courtney was never more goff.

Dude, there's a track on Pretty on the Inside that IS "Dark Entries" by Bauhaus. NONE MORE GOTH THAN THAT.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Ugh, I can't be seen to actually like anything Corgan did, thank god there's a way out for me!"

maybe for some. i like a bunch of pumpkins singles (the crescendoing drums on "tonight tonight" is one of my favorite moments in '90s pop), but he wears me out in extended doses. i just think on "celebrity skin" he helped courtney get the big glam-bam she was looking for, because that's something he does well.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

srsly tho, '98/'99 was the closest either of us ever came to being "legit" (i was doing totally corporate office jobs, wearing suits to work, expensing everything), and we both looked great and slim and healthy (i was going to the gym ALL the time), and we were both dating film-industry dudes and blagging our way into all their parties and screenings and stuff. and that was also around the first time in my adult life i'd been to los angeles (i listened to celebrity skin on the greyhound on my way in, and it sounded PERFECT).

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

y'know the record is really a great dot-com document all the way around. it's all boom (except for courtney's bust, ba-dum-bum). it is the sound of irrational exuberance about to implode.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

it's also got that '90s micro-management paranoia.

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think it may be the only cocaine album without creeping paranoia ruining it.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hah, contradictory x-post.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

Dude, there's a track on Pretty on the Inside that IS "Dark Entries" by Bauhaus.

I'm sure Courtney said in one of her interviews around Live Through This that they ripped off so much from Bauhaus..

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Uh guys? America's Sweetheart?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

that little drum break on "Baby I've gone away!"

This is the part where I confess to just repeating that five seconds more times than anyone could really consider healthy.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

i really wanted "america's sweetheart" to be good. the single was all right.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Aw... You make little Bean sad...

Also, it is good! The first six tracks are solid, "Sunset Strip" and "Almost Golden" in particular.

After that, it gets filler-y, but in the way of filler that occasionally shows up to surprise you on Shuffle. The gall with which she cops, um, "More Than A Feeling" on "Hello" is vintage.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 00:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

i do love america's sweetheart! most of it. it reminds me more of pretty on the inside than it does celebrity skin.

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 00:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oddly, I hear bits of Tara Key's Bourbon County in Celebrity Skin's unabashed jangly hookiness, but on a hugely more low-fi scale - no gloss whatsoever. Tara Key is more like Celebrity Skin divided by Yo La Tengo's Painful.

The combined pixie-dust of Corgan and Michael Beinhorn on Celebrity Skin is sheer pop alchemy. I love it.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 05:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

America's Sweetheart was better in theory than in practice. It could have been the album where she capitalized on Celebrity Skin and went full-out pop. As it is, it sounds like a step back from Celebrity Skin.

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 08:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

America's Sweetheart was better in theory than in practice. It could have been the album where she capitalized on Celebrity Skin and went full-out pop. As it is, it sounds like a step back from Celebrity Skin.

I am reminded of Whitechocolatespaceegg --> Liz Phair.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

i just listened to celebrity skin the other day but this made me want to listen to it again, all afternoon.
i love this thread.

ohmygod, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Really? You don't see a connection between CS and, say, "1979"? I think the latter is built to accomodate Corgan's vocal qualities, but it's not that far away from "Malibu." Like the nighttime version of that or something."

I should clarify Eppy - there's definite similarities in the music, it's just that the difference in vocals makes me tend to overlook them.

I'd say the closest Smashing Pumpkins track might actually be "Today" because it's their sunniest.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

IMO, the contrast between the sunny production and the nihilistic lyrics, a la Steely Dan, is a central ingredient that sets it apart from Corgan (that and the absence of an irritating nasal whine)

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

And, as I keep wanting to yell out, the best songs on Celebrity Skin had no Corgan involvement (I'm taking about the amazing late-album run of "Use Once & Destroy", "Borthern Star" and "Boys On The Radio")

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

the video for the first single of americas sweetheart i remember being all about courtney as nu messiah to little girls, which may fit into this all

anthony, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

and ysi it her cover of its all over now baby blue someone please?

anthony, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 11:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

i can ysi the mp3 later, but i googled this link for you in the meantime. it has a wav file of it, and mp3s/wavs of all other single tracks.

http://vintagestars.com/river/SoundsSingles.html

jonfromsweden (jonfromsweden), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:08 (8 years ago) Permalink


Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's happening!

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

(Btw, my favorite rock song of the '00s is probably Courtney's "Life Despite God": starts as Claire Trevor, ends up as Bette Davis.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

Did Celebrity Skin sound anything like *Celebrity Skin*? I have a feeling they might have (Redd Kross, who they were somehwat ripping off, had a sort of Fleetwood Mac obsession, didn't they?), though I can't pinpoint what the similarities might have been. Anyway, I used to kind of like this album, which sadly nobody ever mentions anymore:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:fudgyl2jxpnb

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

I saw the band live, Chuck! It was engagingly ridiculous.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

(Not to mention Redd Kross had a Cherie & Marie Currie obsession for sure -- see Scott's post at the beginning of this thread -- and both they and the band Celebrity Skin DEFINITELY fit the "stuff combining power chords and that glossy Hollywood nihilism" category bigtime.) (Fuck, did Redd Kross TOTALLY INVENT '90s MUSIC AND '00s TEENPOP??? I never thought of that before, but maybe the argument could be made!)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, they'd love that!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

Well, Redd Kross were also into the Brady Bunch, as were L'Trimm and Schoolly D. So maybe Schoolly D '00s teenpop.

(Now I go offline.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

Maybe Schoolly D invented '00s teenpop.

(Now I really go offline.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Here comes a storm in the form of a girl" -- THAT *WILL* BE ON MY TOMBSTONE.

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

and ysi it her cover of its all over now baby blue someone please?

this is the version from the "malibu" single:
http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AYM1QNQ19PMP0GD4PN43QP3JJ

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Thanks!
Funny how it fits so well lyrically with the album

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

is "Awful" a response song to "Professional Widow"

doubt it. I used to be a Tori fan, as I remember she was singing about herself again in "Widow", stuff like playing in DC piano bars ("gonna wipe a tear/make him feel like a Congressman") to being an LA rock chick quasi groupie etc. She did say it wasn't about Court. though it was great when 90's alt rock was a ridiculous soap opera - if there's a Tori song about that, it's "She's Your Cocaine."

As for Hole, the early version of "Boys on the Radio" was LTT era song "Sugar Coma" introduced sarcastically as being about a couple different people and w/alternate title "I Slept with the Devil".. this was on a truly excellent Unplugged show back in 1995. the whole performance is a treat and Courtney's in top form. sorry, I totally geeked out over Hole back in the day and I'm still wishing she'd get her act together and put out more records..

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm still wishing she'd get her act together and put out more records

It's NME, so take it for what it's worth...

http://www.nme.com/news/courtney-love/22499

Exclusive - Courtney Love returns to the studio
The former-Hole star dismisses tabloid rumors as she goes back to work
Courtney Love has entered a Los Angeles studio to begin work on a new solo album.

Following her brief trip to London last week during which she checked out Dirty Pretty Things at Kings College (March 8), Love told NME.COM she's starting pre-production on her second solo album with producer Linda Perry this week.

The main recording of the as yet untitled effort will take place in April with Perry producing the bulk. Billy Corgan is also set to produce a handful of her new tracks.

Discussing the songs she is considering for her upcoming record Love said: "I don't generally talk about what the songs are about, but I will say that in the gutters of this earth you can always find love. In the darkest alley and [during] the lowest moment there is always that thing that glitters just a little bit, no matter how twisted or deadly or violent. It's there magical and transformative. I've written a lot about that."

However she laughed-off suggestions that this could include comedian Steve Coogan, who she was linked with again in weekend news reports.

"We're friends and he's funny as fuck and very cool. But he's not my boyfriend and if he was I sure as hell would never talk about it," she declared, adding the coverage had upset her. "My private life is my private life. I'll say one thing. I'm fucking sick of fucking tabloids, I don't talk to them and I don't like them."

She added that since working with Jim Carrey on the 1999 film 'Man On The Moon' about comedian Andy Kaufman, she had found herself more inspired by comics than rock stars.

"Ever since I worked with Jim Carrey I've related really well to comedians," she said. "I think our jobs are really similar and I'm drawn to people as friends who aren't afraid to go to the edge. A lot of times rockers are trying to be cool so much they forget that the fundamental job is to be as vulnerable as possible. Really good comedians are sometimes more rock 'n' roll than rock 'n' rollers."

Love declared that this now included 'Little Britain''s Matt Lucas and David Walliams, whom she met on her recent London trip, revealing: "I have a 'Fat Fighters' sticker on my guitar!"

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rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

all right, go Courtney. damn, it's a shame Hole didn't make more records, and I never got to see her play live - was going to see the America's Sweetheart tour but it got cancelled.

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

when she has her act together she does great things. i wish she'd make more movies (she's picked a lot of interesting roles in weird little films and her screen presence is amazing), but i wonder if her looks are too shot now. :-(

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

(and yeah, i liked trapped.)

PRIVATE HELL 36 (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

was going to see the America's Sweetheart tour but it got cancelled

roffle - I'm still holding on to my ticket, just in case... I suppose at this point I should just send it in for the refund. Sigh...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

She'll be back. Her work's not done yet and she knows it.

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

"did you miss me?"

rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Heheh. "They say that rock is dead, and they're probably right.."

I'm listening to Celebrity Skin right now, actually ("Petals"). So many great lines on this. Before that, Pretty on the Inside, because I really like "Mrs. Jones" for some reason, it's so aggro but there are still some funny lines, uh, not great on paper but the delivery makes them work. "When you fall for the garbage man.. you wind up in the garbage."

Anyone else like Zeplin Song as much as me? I get the feeling most Hole fans really hate it, but it cracks me up, esp "Why are the stoners always stoned? Why are the burners always toast? Why did the chicken cross the road?... To get away from the Zeplin song." awesome. oh, and this one:

Why does he rain on my parade?
Why does the song remain the same?
I can't remember my own name
I work for minimum wage!

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

She'll be back. Her work's not done yet and she knows it.

There's still smack out there to be shot up.

Mitya (mitya), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

To go back to my initial question, Gitane Demone's (of Christian Death fame) 'Stars of Trash' is pretty close in spirit to 'Celebrity Skin' (but not as catchy).

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Monday, 20 March 2006 16:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

(and yeah, i liked trapped.)

Weirdo!

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 20 March 2006 16:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
Any new ideas? I'm thinking some emo bands out there must have polished and protooled their ansgt and shiny guitars enough to come close.

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 6 July 2006 13:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

Strange that no one has mentioned Kenickie or Angelica.

Ned Beauman (NedBeauman), Thursday, 6 July 2006 14:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pT7HnQ68bJg&search=hole%20glastonbury

dunno if you've seen this, but what she does about half way thru this clip made ms. love go way way up in my estimation.
one of the coolest things i've ever seen anyone do onstage
(the kids up there had been pulled out of the crowd at the front by her beforehand).

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 6 July 2006 15:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

I find it entirely shocking that the genius, anthemic track "Dying" received not one mention on this thread. Melissa's backing vocals are ethereal and flawless.

Driving down to L.A. once I threw this album on and was surprised to find that everyone in the car with me knew all the words to every song, and we screamed our lungs out from start to finish and some even harmonized. It was amazing.

I also asked Linda Perry about Courtney's new album when I was at her birthday party, and she said it's "so good that it's not even funny."
You know Billy's working with her again. We'll see....

Saint Patrik (cobaininacoma), Thursday, 6 July 2006 18:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
Ah now I can I make it bump

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Judging by the boots of Courtney's new album floating around, this could finally be it.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

The two songs I heard were good.

marmotwolof, Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 14:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Liked "Malibu," couldn't stand the rest. Maybe I was the wrong age or tge wrong frame of mind when it came out. Prefer "America's Sweethear" by a long shot.

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Melissa's backing vocals are ethereal and flawless.

otm about "dying" but also about the whole record

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink


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