i havent really been feelin dominion ,seems like theres not enough interaction w/ other players compared to e.g settlers of catan? but then maybe i need an expansion pack or something else
― just sayin, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 2:49 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it doesnt get really good till you start using the attack cards and then its SUPER fun--i dunno i can see it being something youd burn out on unless you were constantly expanding
still no settlers but lets be real--what is
― max, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://1000timesyes.tumblr.com/post/9896731523/trivial-pursuits
― all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
haha
so is this like the nerd version of 'mtv sports'
― all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
jesus christ you have a tumblr to collect your tweets?
― balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
that's 'pitchfork has a column devoted to board games' level horrifying
― balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
whines I know you're gonna hate but you gotta admit balls has a point here
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
sorry to be all PRACTICAL but twitter doesn't really archive stuff in the long term and whiney's twitter is kind of famous so maybe give him a break
― all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
why would whiney deserve a break on anything, ever
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
i have no argument there
― all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
jesus christ you have a tumblr to collect your tweets? --balls
That post is collecting other people's tweets, balls
― all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
― all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:07 PM (2 hours ago)
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/032010/1269602956_dr-mccoy-and-captain-kirk-approve.gif
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
The image can't be displayed for the moment!Please go to www.gifbin.com to see it.
― markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
apparently n+1 has written a "review" of pitchfork
needless to say, *barfs up entire body so much skin goes inside out*
― max, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
here's the first part of it: http://nplusonemag.com/54
― markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
LMAO
look @ the first words
hey guys any ideas of where i can pitch my numerically rated review of n+1
― all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/09/pitchfork_n1.html
― max, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
*starts n+1 reviews reviews tumblr*
― buzza, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
"blake eyed peas"
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
what is n+1?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
depends on what n is
― max, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
srs question xp
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
“n+1 is rigorous, curious and provocative. Intelligent thought is not dead in New York. It has simply moved to Brooklyn.”—Malcolm Gladwell
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
amazing quote
― markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
a Brooklyn literary journal
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:33 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
i'm gonna assume that this was nymag's mistake
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
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― buzza, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
great value
― markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
wonder if any of their dads actually went through w/ it
― iatee, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
*suppresses urge to stridently defend n+1*
― Lamp, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
'whiney's twitter is kind of famous' = 'jeffrey jones porn collection is kind of famous'
― balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
lamp, i'd be interested to read yr defense of n+1
― markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
then buy this month's issue of ilx
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
cancelled my subscription after that j4gg3r guy stopped writing for them
― markers, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
I like n+1 and all, but I had a real hard time reading the Pitchfork piece. For instance, here's a footnote from Beck, this August:
Lynn Hirschberg, writing for the New York Times Magazine in May 2010, finally made some of these points in a profile called“M.I.A’s Agitprop Pop,” but the best critique of M.I.A. wasn’t made by a critic. It appeared in the lyrics to a song by Vam-pire Weekend, in which frontman Ezra Koenig sings about a young woman attending what it seems obvious to me is anM.I.A. concert: “A vegetarian since the invasion / She’d never seen the word ‘Bombs’ / She’d never seen the word ‘Bombs’/ blown up to ninety-six-point Futura / She’d never seen an A.K. / In a yellowy DayGlo display / A T-shirt so lovely it turnedall the history books gray.”
Here's something I wrote last June, in a column Beck mentions a couple times:
She'd never seen the word BOMBS blown up to 96-point FuturaShe'd never seen an AK in a yellowy Day-Glo displayA t-shirt so lovely it turned all the history books grayIt's hard for me to hear those lines without immediately thinking of M.I.A. And the last line, the way I understand it, is exactly the right kicker: Turning some of these things into an aesthetic-- or a cloak to be worn-- can step on the reality of them in a way that's worrying, especially if it's not coherent.
It's hard for me to hear those lines without immediately thinking of M.I.A. And the last line, the way I understand it, is exactly the right kicker: Turning some of these things into an aesthetic-- or a cloak to be worn-- can step on the reality of them in a way that's worrying, especially if it's not coherent.
― ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, along with general lack of time, the fact that I'm fond of n+1 is a lot of how I've resisted the urge to sit around picking this thing to bits. The piece is well-argued and maybe "provocative" in its way, but it's so full of received wisdom and conventional poses (not just about Pitchfork but about criticism, music, and maybe especially class) that it's just ... about a billion times less insightful than it presents itself as.
― ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
Obv the issue with doing anything like this is actually getting past received wisdom.
Based on the opening section posted it seems that the writer falls into much the same trap he ascribes to pitchfork critic, being focusing on perceived values and intentions and motivations rather than the output. Does it get more concrete later on?
― Tim F, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i have zero interest in reading beck's piece but i think w/o bias that n+1 has published some really strong criticism in the past and has a reasonably 'worthwhile' pov
but i mean an n+1 article abt p4k that starts off talking about an ilm thread whos subject was pazz and jop is sorta grotesquely worlds-colliding to really sit down and read
― some derp (Lamp), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
agree with this.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
well i mean less worlds-colliding than a collision at a heavily trafficked intersection in a busy part of town but yknow
― some derp (Lamp), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
*waves at richard beck*
― max, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
hey guys let's really clusterfuck this thread up and maybe get Beck in here and then this could form the intro for a future article about ilx conversations about n+1 articles about ilx conversations about provocative p4k comments about village voice polls!!!
― Mordy, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
They've published loads of great criticism. I'm glad they exist. Beck does really good and ambitious work with the piece! It's just that a lot of the ideas he's coming at, in such authoritative depth, are pretty much the same as the obvious, lazy, weird, or knee-jerk ideas you get from the superior dude in the comments box. They're operating at a higher intellect level, perhaps, but they make the same blind assumptions.
― ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
I literally can't fathom the obscene lack of self-awareness it would take for someone to turn in a piece of print writing with the word "ILX" in it.
― all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
whiney did you go the symposium they had about h1psters last year??
― some derp (Lamp), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
i guess this isn't gonna be like the time EW wrote about ILX
― Mordy, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
xpost,
i didn't know about it (omg so unhip), but i read the book and, inside, one of my friends was there (no suzy) and asked a question based on one of my familiar talking points. so I was there in spirit.
― all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
I was gonna question you on that, Whiney, but Kelefa's rockism piece had the URL wrong, so it never actually said "ILX"
One important thing I should mention about the full piece: it actually winds up making the case that Pitchfork is not so much a problem as just a reflection of a bigger problem with indie-rock. And this isn't something all that many people would take issue with, but it drifts into question-begging, vagueness, and stock skepticism at exactly the wrong moment...
― ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
someone put this shit on a pdf because there's no way on earth i would sleep at night if i gave n+1 a single nickel to read an review of pitchfork
― all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 04:17 (twelve years ago) link