Trad Gras Och Stenar bootlegs

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I have four: Stockholm 1970, Stockhom 1972, jam with NoNeckBluesBand NYC 2003, and Malmo 2003. Does anyone know of any others?

BTW: I have posted two of these on indietorrents right now with plans to up the rest in weeks to come.

not a food, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 02:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

From what I know, those are the only ones available at this point...

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

Gärdet 12.6.1970 is killer -- guess it's officially released? or something. hard to tell. whatever, it rocks.

tylerw, Friday, 27 May 2011 15:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

It is officially released (Subliminal Sounds) and I was listening to it this morning!:)

Marco Damiani, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

me too! high five! so awesome.

tylerw, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

One of the twins particularly enjoyed the music and danced to their version of Satisfaction - or at least he tried to. Maoist psych rock for children!

Marco Damiani, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

Check Mors Mors for a totally killer 26 minute Sommerlaten.

Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also officially released.

Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

basically everything this band has recorded is golden, imo. what i reallllly should spend more time with is the Parson Sound material. listened to the box in its entirety maybe 3-5 times after i bought it, having not heard the CD in years. time for another sesh.

one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 27 May 2011 16:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i haven't heard everything by a long shot, but everything i have heard is gold.

tylerw, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

i really like their new album from a year or two ago! it's good!

one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 27 May 2011 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

i heard this band on ian's radio show and now i am listening to some seriously extended jams
this band rules

Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 12:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

I like two pre-Trad acts better, but yeah they are still great.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

what are those bands? i'm totally uninformed.

tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

There are actually three: Parsson Sound, Harvester and International Harvester.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh! i do know a bit of int'l harvester. will have to dig up some of those releases. on a big trad gras kick lately.

tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Both int'l albums are great. The cd's have bonus tracks that are worth your while. Not sure if lp copies are available, anyway.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh the second album is credited to just "Harvester," by the way.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Harvester "Hemat" is a record I have been searching for for some time now! One of my most played CDs.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Can someone help me find something that is not this when I search for International Harvester?

Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink


Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's an incredible record tbh, i think you'll love it.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

yup it's truly something else

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

i will report back once i listen to it!

Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Being is more than life, imo

Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

thanx amon.

tbh, that baby grandmothers record will never touch the harvester/trad gras stuff.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

^real talk

Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok i love this! the combo of song/incidental noises/birds is so dreamy.

Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

whoa"i mourn you" is so good -- sounds like it's underwater, but it kinda reminds me of listening to unpracticed marching bands for some reason
overall, A+ thank you!!

Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

I am a huge Arbete och Fritid fan.
Swedish prog folk
^First (and maybe only?) ILM thread I started.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

listened to international harvester tonight and it is totally hypnotic

Fa la la (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 03:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

I binged on them after this thread revive.
Gonna bring Parson Sound to the radio show tomorrow night.
Check that one out, for real. It's got a cool radio session medley of It's Only Love->I Mourn You->Sov Gott Rose Marie.
And two more hours of unbelievably great Swedish power drone psych wizardry.

That Swedish Prog Folk thread is totally not the only ILM thread I've started lol

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 04:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

I have no idea what took me so long, but I finally heard the Parson Sound s/t album. LOVE. I'll just repost what I said 7 mo ago:

ok i love this! the combo of song/incidental noises/birds is so dreamy.

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Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 03:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

best track on their final lp imo.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Trip Maker, Saturday, 3 March 2012 20:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

i am listening to this ^^ right now in order to drown out my coworker's conversation. it's working!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

fuck, awful news. thomas mera gartz, the drummer from pärson sound and träd, gräs och stenar has died, just a couple of days ago. apparently he fell ill and was rushed to the hospital but died the following day, just like that. RIP.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh, that's sad. RIP.

I just found this and it's really good -- long instrumental solo in the middle-end, as I had hoped. anyone heard his solo stuff? I never have (until today). kinda reminds me of bill fay?!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

aww damn. RIP. guy was a monster drummer.

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink


Trip Maker, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink


C.C. Sabbathian of the Doom York Yankees (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 04:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

RIP, time to play the Parson Sound box

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 04:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

shit i loved his drumming. he was the best part of seeing them live, very fluid.

am0n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

his solo album was posted to mutant sounds apparently
i can't check to see if the link still works b/c i am at work, but

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

coooool, never heard that. link appears to still be functioning. i take it it's not available to buy?

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

I can't say, but I can now vouch for it being totally 100% worth checking out. Shamanjobbarens Sång may inspire some spontaneous folk dancing if played at the appropriate time during the course of an evening. As a whole, it's rather jubilant!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 03:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

That's not to say that there aren't lots of contemplative moments too. There are, and freakouts too. It's v enjoyable!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 03:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

never heard that, thanks

am0n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

i believe this was thomas mera gartz youtube channel, its got a lot of videos by him and featuring his music

am0n, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

this has some early footage of live trad gras och stenar @ 1:02

am0n, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Stephen Malkmus was given a live album with Träd Gräs och Stenar by some Swedish friends - and it knocked him off his feet.
So when Malkmus appeared in Sweden for concerts in Stockholm and Gothenburg, he asked the old progg dudes if they wanted to be his support act. "Of course," they said.
Sonic asked, of course, if Malkmus wanted to interview his Swedish heroes. "Sure," he said.
Stephen Malkmus, former frontman of lo-fi pioneers and slacker kings Pavement, was amazed by Träd Gräs och Stenars progressive improvisations as soon as he heard them, on the album "Gärdet 06.12.1970”.
- I've always liked groups like Velvet Underground and Can. And Trees, Grass and Stones sounds like a Velvet Underground with traditional Swedish tunes. Some of their stuff is just astonishing, he says.
It's after the concert at the Göta Källare in Stockholm and in the provisory back stage area a quite peculiar combination of American indie rock musicians about thirty and Swedish prog veterans in their fifties are squeezed in.
For Torbjörn Abelli, Jakob Sjöholm, Bo Anders Persson and Thomas Mera Gartz in Trees, Grass and Stones the gig was special. They had not been committed to an American artist/band since they were called International Harvester and played the support slot for The Doors Concert Hall in 1968.
- The first time I heard about Stephen was when he talked about us in "Musikbyrån" about two years ago, says Torbjörn Abelli. I only have his latest album. First, I didn’t get it. The songs are so modest, it does not seem to matter if you play a bit off in terms of lo fi. But the album grows with each listening and now I love it.
Malkmus smiles at the praise and seems to completely forget to live up to the media image of himself as a difficult and cool indie intellectual. Instead, he seems almost childishly delighted by the chance to interview his favorite Swedish band. Cause that's why we're here.
A half-empty bottle of Finlandia is on the table, a few cans of Fanta is passed around, the tape’s rolling.
Stephen Malkmus (SM): The live album from that concert you did outdoors, which was released on CD not long ago, there is a picture of a girl who does this (waving his arms). Who is it?
Thomas Mera Gartz (TMG): That’s Sonja, used to be Bo Anders wife.
SM: Did she live in your commune?
TMG: Yes, Bo Anders had a little house in the south of Stockholm, where I and my girlfriend, he and his girlfriend and some other friends lived. And some other people.
SM: You just hung out there, cultivating vegetables?
TMG: Yes, but it was also a community characterized by music, art, literature and film.
SM: Did you ever play music to the films?
TMG: Absolutely, we even made our own movies.
Bo Anders Persson (BAP): We used them when we jammed, Super 8 movies.
TMG: We had a light show of slides and served food. People could use our instruments and we arranged a lot of happenings. We tried to live as our audience.
SM: OK, which of you was in the group Harvester?
TMG: I, Bo Anders and Torbjörn and a few others that we do not have contact with.
SM: I have that album too. I got it from a guy in Malmö. It’s very expensive in the U.S., a real collector's item.
TMG: (Laughs flattered) Harvester resembled Pärson Sound.
SM: Yes, about the same guys playing in both groups, right? Pärson Sound sounded very primitive too, almost ancient.
TMG: So you have an album of Pärson Sound?
SM: I just got hold of it. Awesome. How was that thing with Jimi Hendrix? I've heard that you jammed with him.
BAP: Yep, it was Thomas who did that.
SM: Was he cool?
TMG: Yeah, very. I was in a group called Mecki Mark Men in those days and we did some gigs with Jimi in Sweden. As a support act, of course. Off stage, he was very calm and relaxed. Jimi talked alot, especially at night.
BAP: He played as effortless as we speak, it was as natural as birdsong.
SM: Yeah.
BAP: I remember one time. Jimi played under a remarkably beautiful, big, open sky and he looked up at it and ... it was like he disappeared off into the sky. He just flew away. Whoossshh!
SM: Yeah. Well, what did you see in the Rolling Stones? You’ve done a few covers of their songs. One was "Satisfaction" and the other was "The Last Time." "The Last Time" is great.
BAP: Nah, you know what, we probably shouldn’t have done that.
SM: Was it the blues of the Rolling Stones music that appealed to you?
TMG: Nah, it was their proletarian-rock'n'roll.
SM: What?
TMG: They made music for the working class.
SM: Once upon a time, yes. But then they turned into something completely different.
TMG: That is correct. But for a while their music was of the English working class and the Stones were more appealing than the Beatles art pop.
SM: Do you like the Beatles now?
TMG: Well, yes.
BAP: There are many Beatles albums that just sweeps you away.
TMG: But back then, at the time, I felt they were not for me.
SM: I can see what you mean, but sometimes you're amazed at how much the Beatles could get out of a song.
TMG: They were nice, wrote wonderful songs, but they lacked focus.
SM: Did you ever tour abroad?
TMG: We toured Scandinavia only. Denmark, Finland…
Jakob Sjöholm (JS): But we toured a lot.
SM: Oh, so you could make a living off your music?
TMG: We tried. It worked occasionally but mostly we were very poor.
BAP: But professional. Professional, poor people on the left. Poor lefties (laughs). We grew our own food that we took with us everywhere.
SM: What did you grow? Beans?
BAP: Beans, potatoes, onions, carrots ...
TMG: Especially carrots. They are easy to grow.
SM: What was it that made your commune fall apart? Was the food too bad?
JS: (Laughs) No, the ideals faded away. This was around 1972.
TMG: The political situation worsened and became more difficult to manage. Heroin and speed became more common, and it destroyed a lot. Police and drug pushers, that combination eventually became unsustainable. It was a disaster. The ”progg movement” also became more involved with populist tendencies in politics and eventually died out.
SM: Hmm.
BAP: I actually thought that your set was best in the beginning, when it was a bit more stripped down and simple.
SM: Huh? Oh. Well, we went in and ran through some pop songs in the beginning after your experimental set. Four or five "ba-ba-ba"-songs for the kids you know.
BAP: I think it saved the evening.
SM: Oh, stop it, you got good response from the audience.
BAP: You had a very nice attitude, but the bass was too loud. It erased the nuances and almost ruined the over all impression. Boom-boom-boom...
SM: Blame it on the sound engineer.
TMG: Your guitar playing was good.
SM: Thank you. Some things are rehearsed, others I make up along the way. I don't care if I miss a note or two.
TMG: The thick bass meant that I could not hear as much of your singing though.
SM: It gets a little loud at times.
TMG: In Sweden, your music’s usually called lo-fi.
SM: Yeah. At least that’s what it was called when I was in Pavement. We recorded ourselves - without really knowing how it was supposed to be done - and apparently that became lo-fi. You really ought to come and play in the U.S., you would probably go down really well in New York.
JS: Maybe we should, do you think it would work?
SM: Sure.
BAP: Nah, it's time to go home. My wife’s waiting. Do you know the way to dance the old Swedish folk dance ”polska”?
SM: No.
BAP: Then I'll show you how. Tomorrow.
SM: Really looking forward to that. Rock on.

am0n, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

^that's nice
Just listened to Mors Mors. Their cover of "The Last Time" is great.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

It's unfortunate that it took his death to call my attention to his music, but I've listened to Thomas 'Mera' Gartz's album that I posted about upthread so much this year. It has brought me a lot of happiness. His vocals still remind me a lot of Bill Fay, but with a more ecstatic/joyful sound to the music and songs, generally speaking. Shamanjobbarens Sång only has 8 listeners on :(

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 17 December 2012 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

MaresNest, Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thomas Mera Gartz is one of the two drummers on the upcoming Fire! Orchestra album Exit! on Rune Grammofon. I think it might be his last recorded appearance. It's a great record, too; large-scale free jazz (31 people in all) meets Krautrock.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

nuh uh
that sounds GREAT, can't wait to hear it. too bad he has to be dead :(

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

thinkin about these guys today while i cleaned the kitchen

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Sunday, 27 July 2014 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

hey i had a terrible/great idea yesterday
TG&S-esque cover of Don't Fear the Reaper -- slowed down, spaced out, -cowbell/+me
thomas mera gartz was really a fantastic drummer. RIP.

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd be down for that

example (crüt), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll keep practicing it!
i totally love their approach to classic songs

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...


posted on endless boogie's instagram acct

tylerw, Monday, 19 January 2015 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

just trying to imagine what they'd do with the mighty quinn (would love to hear this!)

no lime tangier, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know! Hard to imagine. Hopefully it is being prepped for release.

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seriously! I don't even like that song very much but this band slayed everything so

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

holy guacamole!

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

That works!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

ugh just saw that the unreleased stuff will only be on the $$$$ vinyl set? UGH.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

that description makes no sense, refers both to 3xLP and 6xLP, refers to the unreleased one as a double so that would mean a 4LP set?!?!?

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

seems like it's
Djungelns Lag = 2LP
Mors, Mors = 2LP
Kom Tillsammans = 2LP
and then the CD version is just Djungelns Lag + Mors, Mors?
lamesville, I can't afford these vinyl box sets!

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:03 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Phil F. suggested that it means the vinyl set is the only way to get the unreleased stuff ON vinyl, whereas the CDs for each release will be sold separately. It is pretty damn strangely worded.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:03 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

hmm yeah maybe!

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:07 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Actually, I don't think the CDs will be individually packaged, either - I think it's just a 3CD set. I'm in, though. (I've emailed the label about getting an advance so I can pitch a review to The Wire, of course.)

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

that's fine - if it's a 3CD set w/ everything for $20, it's a steal.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Absolutely. And I'm as excited about the remastered albums as the new material - my copies of those are MP3s sourced from old vinyl.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

that's fine - if it's a 3CD set w/ everything for $20, it's a steal

Completely agreed. Just finally got the Parson Sound comp properly a couple of months back as well.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

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