slow, heroin-y jazz recs?

You might also like some of the Louis Armstrong Hot Fives and Sevens and Duke Ellington Orchestra -- I can't explain why, but I like that stuff in the same way I like Bill Evans.

basically i want something that makes one a little sleepy.

I never have any idea whether this record is totally canonical/ubiquitous or a just-under-the-radar gem, because I kind of grew up with it.

Also, Coltrane Quartet "Ballads" and, uh, half the stuff on ECM.

http://www.tordgustavsen.com/

do you like The Necks?

Also, Chet Baker's catalogue and the track Starless and Bible Black by Stan Tracey with bobby wellins solo what I'm talkin 'bout (see under milk wood LP)

But the smkiest, coolest, down vibe I can think of is from the Ellington/Coltrane disk: In a Sentimental Mood.

Best wild, drunk sounding recording: Eric Dolphy's Music Matador.

Recorded in about three or four days, as I recall. Goodish film. Great record.

"Hey what's up with Don the bassist, he's looking like shit"
"Don started doing herion"
"Jeez, how could he be so stupid"
"All the really good jazz musicans did three things. They read the Bible. They did heroin. And the practiced alot. Don wants to get better, so he's started reading the Bible and doing heroin."

Venus Velvet - Bobby Brown Quartet

Off of one of the best comps evah, "Stars of the Apollo"

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002TLJ9K.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://romeksamolotrewju.blox.pl/resource/bohren.gif

then this

http://www.musicstrands.com/coverm/03/374303.jpg

and if you still need something get that.

http://www.bohrenundderclubofgore.de/Discgoregraphy/Gore_Motel.gif

Recorded in about three or four days, as I recall. Goodish film. Great record.

Not to be a know-it-all, but wouldn't that actually make it a rather long session for a jazz record?

any specific chet baker records? more 40s-60s stuff?

There are recordings of 'Round Midnight and I Cover the Waterfront that almost make me feel like I want to be a junkie. Former by Miles, latter by Sonny Clark or Lester Young. Actually there's a fair amount of Lester, when he's playing ballads, that just has that down-but-not-quite-out feel, and Mingus mines that perfectly on slow-jam versions of Goodbye Pork-pie Hat.

good work guys

writing story re: detox

this stuff = ace help re: tone

though i can't find bohren & der club of gore anywhere on the torrents, this thread makes me anticipate madly.

I sometimes feel like I've vicariously done heroin through these records

^ that is what i'm after

all you really ever have to do is type the name of the band and rapidshare or sendspace into your favorite search engine and i'm sure you'll find something w/in the first page

nice thread.

my rrecommendation = We travel the spaceways/bad and beautiful by Sun Ra

the rendition of "Crepuscule With Nellie" on Thelonious Monk Orchestra At Town Hall fits the bill. It doesn't start that slowly but it finds a couple winding wormholes to explore

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Hah, I found some great stuff thanks to this thread last year. I really love 'East Coasting', although I'm not sure I would describe it as slow heroin-y jazz.

I guess just the first song is slow heroin-y jazz

Grant Green - "Idle Moments" - 14 minutes of sloooooooow groove. Joe Henderson, too!

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-- gr8080, Thursday, October 4, 2007 8:03 AM

^ a hero

I love the shit out of Joe Henderson

p.s. THX GR80

Dear God why has nobody introduced me to Bohren before?

!!!

i love those guys. i still have yet to hear their last one, though.

I love Bohren but I can't really imagine needing more than one of their albums.

bobo stenson's 'serenity' (ecm, 2000). very restrained + very beautiful. great cover too.

(it's a piano trio by the way...)

Okay, there is a lot of great stuff here, but I'm seeking something still slow (and heroin-y I suppose, not quite sure what that would mean) but which has a bit more "snarl" for lack of any really meaningful word. Something that feels maybe a bit dirtier and more menacing perhaps. Does this make any sense? Where to look if so?

Okay, I realize my description may not mean much of anything so listen to the clip of "Elevation" by Pharoah Sanders here (http://www.amazon.com/Elevation/dp/B000W00IPK/ref=sr_f2_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1203703203&sr=102-1) and imagine it played about 3/4 speed and with real emphasis on the bass and piano. Tell me where to go!

uh, it sounds like you're trying to get to cinematic orchestra, pretty much?

Grant Green - "Idle Moments" - 14 minutes of sloooooooow groove.

Soooo sloowwwww

first thing that comes to mind is Amina Claudine Myers. i started a thread on her and kinda summed up each of the albums of hers i own near the bottom. can we talk about Amina Claudine Myers?

you can find her best track, and a few others that are as good as it on the Soul Jazz New Thing! comp.
http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/releases/?id=221

Also, the last Chet Baker CD: the Let's Get Lost soundtrack.

bohren: sunset mission and black earth

yo man, good looking out on these bohren albums. looking at them, i was very skeptical of what their music would sound like. i still wouldnt say it is ideally what i would want, but it is damn good nonetheless.

Thanks so much Jaxon, Eazy, and Omar (I haven't had a chance to listen yet, but I am most definitely looking forward to it). I'd be interested in any recommendations you might have as well pipecock. If anybody hasn't heard it, that Pharoah album I linked isn't slow or heroin-y but it is magic through and through.

i know this isn't the jazziest recommendation, but have you heard the last 2 Earth albums? sounds like walking through the desert on heroin (maybe someone could recut the Daft Punk movie w/these?)

I have heard pieces of the Earth, and I definitely like what I've heard, but that's not exactly what I'm looking for. I am also really really liking this Bohren stuff, but again it's not completely aligning with what I'm hearing in my head. I think I want a more consistent beat and maybe a tad faster tempo than this. (I completely accept that exactly what I want may not exactly exist.)

Okay (really guys you can ignore me anytime you want), but something else along the lines of what I want is "Blase" by Archie Shepp (and really maybe I'm just looking for more songs just like this all time favorite). I come back to this song every six months or so and am reminded of its perfection. Sound clip here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S3XXVW/ref=dm_dp_trk2?ie=UTF8&qid=1203710753&sr=102-1

Pharoah's "Harvest Time" ((from the album of the same name aka "Pharoah") is plenty slow and drawn out, though he may play a little too smooth on that one to qualify.

opened the thread to say archie shepp.
his "trouble in mind" disc might be the fix yer after....

Thanks Sparkle and mostlyClean. Those both look like they have the potential, but are gonna be a little harder to come by. I'll be working on it.

Harvest Time was on curved-air but now I can't seem to find the site. Perhaps a cache search?

FOUND.
"enjoy!"

i've never even seen or heard of that pharoah album. i should get around to ripping or downloading Village of the Pharoahs and Wisdom Through Music.

I'm seeking something still slow (and heroin-y I suppose, not quite sure what that would mean) but which has a bit more "snarl" for lack of any really meaningful word. Something that feels maybe a bit dirtier and more menacing perhaps. Does this make any sense? Where to look if so?

The Necks, bro, the Necks. Not so much dirty, but there are snarl and menace aplenty.

Also Shepp's "Coral Rock" may fit the bill.

Check this playlist out. There's a few songs which may fit the bill (Bohren included).

http://www.moteldemoka.com/2008/09/02/flutter/

Any stuff that fits my other thread question? (WW2-era'esque?)

Has anyone seen Bohren live? They're playing here next week and I'm debating whether to go see them. I can't really see this music translate well into a concert experience.

Actually, Moka's link is fantastic. Thanks!

anyone heard the new bohren, 'dolores'? not a vast departure from their earlier stuff, but feels more explictly 'jazz' - specifically, it's very miles, close in tone to 'in a silent way'.

Listening to some Johnny Hodges stuff - comp called Passion Flower, with kind of a stripped down Ellington Band. I love that sound - the kind of pained, old-timey alto against dissonant chords.

Lift to the Scaffold--also cataloged as Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud, a soundtrack to a Louis Malle noir film.

i saw this 10" at the shop the other day and SHOULD HAVE FUCKING BOUGHT IT but didn't :(

also it was a 10" wtf

Maybe not heroin-y, and definitely not menacing, but "The Easy Way" by Jimmy Giuffre should make an appearance on this thread.

Mark Isham - romeo alone

i <3 isham. he was also part of (or produced?) a band called Group 87 that has a similar vibe (maybe a lil less "jazz" and more "new age")