GROUPER "Way Their Crept" --- CONTACT

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Please, i'm looking for a link or an e-mail address in order to contact Liz Harris (aka Grouper) for an interview. Indeed, i'd like to write a portait of this artist and her wonderful album published by the label Free Porcupine Society... First, i contacted this label but no reply...

Thanks.
Bests

Matt B (aerial1), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 11:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I really love this album. Liz' personal e-mail is right there in the liner notes, though (you downloader)

ysi for 'black out' I posted last week to noise ysi is still up

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Uh, a friend of mine is sending me a mixtape song by song and "Disengaged" by Grouper just came on, obliterating all songs of this year before it. What is known of this "GROUPER"?

http://www.typerecords.com/artists/full.php?id=48

Z S, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 05:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Friends description: "Liz Harris is from Poland, and she's got a few musical projects that run the gamut from spacey Hope Sandoval type music to this, a combination of drone soundscapes and lo-fi broken east-european folk. That description is a misnomer - think folk and you imagine exactly what Grouper is not. This music has more in common with the Microphones than Devendra Banhart, and her real draw isn't her mastery of narrative po-dunk lyrics - it's her soul-melting, beautiful ethereal voice and her ear for incredibly moody - albeit lo-fi - recording aesthetics. Imagine one of the Deheza twins becoming obsessed with fuzz pedals and dark psychedelia. As Grouper, she's begun to manipulate her voice in the same manner that she does every other recorded instrument on her projects. On this first song from her newest album, her voice follows hand in hand the melody of the rhodes-come-blown-out-leslie. I can't tell what she's saying, and it truely does not make a difference to me. The atmosphere is beautiful, her voice is beautiful, and the emotions she is conveying - terrible though they must be - are beautiful as well."

Z S, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 05:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's from Portland, not Poland

resolved, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 08:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here you go:

http://www.myspace.com/grouperrepuorg

Looks like she logged in today.

We are so lucky to have her here. I've seen some really great (and always unassuming) sets from her in coffee shops, in the park...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 09:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Love Grouper. New album is ace. Can't wait to get the vinyl.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

New album is brilliant. Up there with Inca Ore's release, my best release of the year so far (I think).

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

YES! I'm really digging the new one. I loved it so much that I bought a couple of her previous releases. Can't wait to get them in the mail.

Bill in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

high praise from this review:

foxy digitalis : reviews: Grouper "Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill"
http://www.foxydigitalis.com/foxyd/reviews.php?which=3440

"This is an amazing album that will most likely remain a highlight release for the year. " 10/10

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

'grouper' CDR EP - (heavier noiser mixes of her first recordings, most of these were remixed for the first album)
'way their crept' LP - still my favorite, her harmonies & the absurd levels of tape delay bury the songs but the songs are still there
'he knows he knows he knows' EP - like the 1st LP, just as great
'wide' LP - follows on from the first LP, heavier & spacier and more intense, maybe a less instantly memorable group of songs but I need to go back and check
'flashlights: eckords' - collaboration with violinist jorge boehringer, very very very spaced
xiu xiu vs. grouper - 'creepshow' - haven't heard
'cover the windows and walls' EP - only have mp3s of this so haven't spent as much time with it -- never even saw this in stores, but it's songs
'dragging a dead deer up a hill' LP - this is going to do very well for her, she's pulled back on the delays but everything still sounds covered in silt and her songwriting has taken a jump forward

she's one to watch

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ok, I finally listened to the rest of the songs for the first time, and yes, they're all great. Not enough have just straight up said "What a graceful voice", and they should. This is peaceful death music, I love it.

I predict I will post about this again on August 3rd of this year, because that's the day I finally get back home. And when I arrive, there's going to be a small pile of her records because I'm going to have to drunkenly order a good half of those LPs and EPs Milton just mentioned. Not the Xiu Xiu one, though.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm going to save the S-word too - Slowdive. This wouldn't be out of place on Pygmalion.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

I will also say it.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, at least I still get to care about something, which is a nice consolation prize.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Yeah, still fucking awesome.
This is off the newest one:

Heavy Water/I'd Rather be Sleeping

and I have two other (better) songs from Dragging a Dead Deer up a Hill here:
http://headofstate.muxtape.com/

And this is a little older.
HERE

Z S, Saturday, 19 July 2008 07:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

got new lp in the other day

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 19 July 2008 10:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

I missed buying that Dragging A Dead Deer album, can't find it anywhere. Any leads?

sleeve, Saturday, 19 July 2008 17:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.boomkat.com/search.cfm?q=grouper

Z S, Monday, 21 July 2008 06:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's a dude here in Portland who's just as good as Grouper. His project is called Dragging An Ox Through Water.

Nate Carson, Monday, 21 July 2008 09:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Finally got the new one today...So amazing. Like, one of the best things I've heard all year. Its been a long time since I've been able to just sit down and let an album wash over me, but this has done it. "Stuck" in particular just makes me swoon. The melodies on this are amazing! I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is very good, that new one.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

what is it called?

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill"

Best album title ever too!!!

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

Have you got it yet? Is it good? Did you order it from her website? How much was it?

Yeah, I'm still really, really into the new one. It only sounds better as it gets colder and more leaves fall off the trees.

Z S, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

nice

czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

vaguely recall a mention on ILX and an Inca Ore connection (blown away Ms. Saelens live recently, her LP one of few sweet spots of '08 for me)...

must investigate further!

also, this Grouper LP punching well above it's weight in obscurity here http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

The inca ore and grouper split is from 2007. It's ok, sort of a bridge between her first records and the minimalistic approach of guitar/voice style that she used on 'dragging a dead dear'.

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inca_ore___grouper/split/

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Has anybody deciphered the lyrics to 'heavy water/I'd rather be sleeping'? - so far I can only make up: 'love is enormous / it's lifting me up / i'd rather be sleeping / i'd rather fall in your tidal waves / right where the deepest currents pull'

Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

this album ! :-O

really really good.

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 AM

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

If she was a dude she would still be 1000x more interesting than Fleet Fuxxes

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^real talk. 'Dead Deer' is on my top ten list of the year, but I don't know what she looks like (if looks are what's implied). And well, imagining the vocals as coming from a he, well that's just silly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw, I wasn't quoting that as in "I agree with this", I was quoting that as in

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

I want to say something about how this album unfolds it's pleasures like a flower, at about the same speed, without it sounding dirty.

Possibly the most gorgously intimate and non "produced" sounding thing I've heard all year too. She might as well be in the room.

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

This goes down well with a copy of Chris Ware's graphic novel The Smartest Kid on Earth and my Mom's fried boneless fish.

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

Plenty of us care about Sonic Boom!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 April 2009 09:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I picked this up on a whim today from amazon's mp3 store, where it's on sale for $1.99. It's remarkably gorgeous!

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

by "this" I mean the Dragging a Dead Deer album

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Deeply amused by "fart alert"

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's a damn good price (I paid $14.99 retail) and almost makes me want to switch over to buying in digital format... but not really. xpost

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's exactly my sentiment, ilxor. But if a crazy low price like that leads to more people getting into her music, it's all for the better. She deserves it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Baffling, pointless review on Tinymixtapes of the live show:

The show is sold out, but most fans are waiting to pile in after the opening act, Grouper β€” a one-woman showcase of bullshit. Imagine Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters. I try to salvage something from the fuzzy reverb and her long, lonely wails, but I can’t stop picturing her masturbating in front of a full-length mirror. Self-indulgence, indeed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

ugh.

original bgm, Friday, 12 June 2009 16:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

Really? That's news to me!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

if you're going to choose such an ambiguous username...

suggestzybandias (jim), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason. I saw my comment this morning and wondered what the hell I was talking about, because I don't really have any beef with tinymixtapes.com.

That AOL sonned thread has me thinking about who I do and do not have beefs with today.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

still, i am shocked that the 7" sold out so quickly. was sure i'd be able to get it. bummed bc i'm definitely not getting it second hand from discogs.

xp yeah she's been selling self-releases of most of her records through the yellowelectric site for a while now, that Ruins pressing isn't new.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:10 (five months ago) Permalink

no i get that, i'm just saying that afaict that 2014 vinyl reissue was literally just this second posted

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:16 (five months ago) Permalink

Are you talking about the "special edition" version of Ruins on there though because that certainly looks new.

Evan, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:43 (five months ago) Permalink

She sold an identical artist's edition of Ruins when it was released in 2014. Not sure if this is a new run or she is just selling her stuff through bandcamp exclusively now.

https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Ruins/release/6237251

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:03 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah the special edition went up today afaict. it said "ships dec 21" earlier today, and now says "ships in 7 days" Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 22 December 2016 01:23 (five months ago) Permalink

important information about new grouper release

GROUPER RULES

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2016 02:25 (five months ago) Permalink

Maybe that should have been on the t-shirt that came with the 7"

Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 02:26 (five months ago) Permalink

it might be time for a custom t

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2016 02:35 (five months ago) Permalink

i am not emotionally prepared to experience new grouper material, i'll need to take a few days

Clay, Thursday, 22 December 2016 02:42 (five months ago) Permalink

Same. I need to be in the right headspace and environment

calstars, Thursday, 22 December 2016 03:35 (five months ago) Permalink

I am there.
I am in the grouper zone, reporting out live

Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 December 2016 03:38 (five months ago) Permalink

i've listened to "headache" way too many times in a row in the past 24 hours but how could i possibly stray away from something so unspeakably transcendent

josh, Thursday, 22 December 2016 04:05 (five months ago) Permalink

finally listening to this at night, it really does sound warmer and more present than any of the AIA. the Water People single is probably the most obvious precedent. there's a lot less reverb and the guitars & her voice sounds a lot closer.

flappy bird, Thursday, 22 December 2016 06:11 (five months ago) Permalink

For those that missed it, perhaps this'll work as a back up option:

https://boomkat.com/products/paradise-valley-d8ee21d6-5329-41f7-bb54-8411eaa412ab

Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:14 (five months ago) Permalink

that works for me

sleeve, Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:27 (five months ago) Permalink

btw Discogs lists it as a pressing of 1000, see similar debate in the comments re: availability

https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Paradise-Valley/release/9539659

sleeve, Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:34 (five months ago) Permalink

Thanks Evan!

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:35 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah thanks for the heads up, glad I got this!

flappy bird, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:56 (five months ago) Permalink

You're welcome!

Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:58 (five months ago) Permalink

Gorgeous video for "Headache"

https://vimeo.com/195999938

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:58 (five months ago) Permalink

hey floks, if anybody is hip 2 remaining copies of this (generally not supra optimistic abt boomkat), pls honk @ me xxx

schlump, Thursday, 22 December 2016 19:11 (five months ago) Permalink

i'm so psyched that that video finally came out, she projected it when I saw her play 2 years ago, w/o new song though.

flappy bird, Thursday, 22 December 2016 19:24 (five months ago) Permalink

Fantastic video. Been listening to this single pretty much non stop for the last 24 hours. Transcendental.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:08 (five months ago) Permalink

@schlump, '7" (sold out) BC copies --- distros and stores will have it: Forced Exposure, Reckless, Boomkat, Mississippi, Little Axe, Exiled.'

schlump, Friday, 23 December 2016 01:53 (five months ago) Permalink

rough shot at the lyrics to 'Headache'

My mother once told me,
'She walks into the ocean'
Didn't want it, just kidding 'til we're rising well
Wanted to the heaven closer to love
Why's this costume weighing me down?

And my head hurts
And their sails turn

Fire in me enormous
Try my best when I'm alone lock it
I realize it won't
Walking in the deep end
Flying lights on the back of my eyelid
Blood is lucky blood in me

And my head hurts
And their sails turn
Flying lights on the back of my eyelid
Blood is lucky blood in me turns

flappy bird, Friday, 23 December 2016 06:37 (five months ago) Permalink

lil starfire moment

schlump, Friday, 23 December 2016 16:14 (five months ago) Permalink

Why did you choose to self-release Paradise Valley, alongside a reprint of Ruins? Is there a freedom in the self-release that’s appealing to you?

I love the process; it makes me feel good to have a routine, some control, a craft. It must relate back to where I come from as a print maker and artist. Have always been more comfortable with sharing those skills than I am sharing sound. So, it’s a less stressful part of making music; that is one reason I cling to it.

Feels good to be protective of this music and my relationship to it. Freedom to go as slow as I want, meter the weight of it in hand, disregard the name and figure a little, focus on the resonance of the final object, choose to do less promotion. Self releasing does not allow big quantities to be made. And it takes more time. More attention is needed. I like that practice.

schlump, Friday, 23 December 2016 22:58 (five months ago) Permalink

^ I can respect that, but it's hard to believe there can't be some aspect of marketing (supply and demand) to this.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 23 December 2016 22:59 (five months ago) Permalink

Does this mean we can expect a new Grouper album in 2017?

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:40 (five months ago) Permalink

There are days where I think the AIA double album is my favorite ever.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:41 (five months ago) Permalink

Sorry for shitposting but the new one sounds like an abandoned liz phair demo from '92

calstars, Friday, 23 December 2016 23:43 (five months ago) Permalink

the interview i quoted mentions these songs are from 2012 !, + i think when albums come out has been similarly quantum. i saw her sometime this year & she played all new material + one song from ruins rearranged. it was rly beautiful.

i can't get w a marketing/supply & demand critique bc supply .......................... did not meet demand ................................................................................................................. lol

schlump, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:01 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah schlump, i'm talking out of my ass, apologies

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:04 (five months ago) Permalink

sry 2 thread police guy
idk if it is q the same w 7"s but she is v diligent abt reissuing lps i think, so it is frustrating to miss out but eventually you get like a fourth pressing or w/e
i get way more bummed by boomkat taking veblen pricing strategies
tho maybe i'm wrong there too + it is a lot of work to answer all the enquiries &c
who knows
feels so nice to hear new grouper

schlump, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:27 (five months ago) Permalink

Somehow I got one of the last ten she was selling on bandcamp, so I'm not complaining for once!

Evan, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:37 (five months ago) Permalink

sweet interview, thanks for sharing schlump!

flappy bird, Saturday, 24 December 2016 03:52 (five months ago) Permalink

Fuck, I LOVE Headache. Just gorgeous.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:09 (four months ago) Permalink

Came here to drunkenly post about how great Alien Observer is. I didn't even know there was a new single people rated so much.

AIA is a great couple of records though. The sky here is bright with cold at midnight. I think that's what made me put them on.

kraudive, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:23 (four months ago) Permalink

Perfect.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:38 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

new grouper single https://grouper.bandcamp.com/album/water-people

if you're reading this on feb 3 i think grouper's proceeds go to NoDAPL and bandcamp proceeds go to the ACLU

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 3 February 2017 17:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Rerelease of an older single:

https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Water-People/master/878532

But yes, nice to see!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 February 2017 17:23 (three months ago) Permalink

ah yes

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 3 February 2017 18:04 (three months ago) Permalink

Nice! Water People is a fantastic song.

flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 18:19 (three months ago) Permalink

two older releases on Spotify that I hadn't previously noticed - Violet Replacement part 1 and 2

Both one album length track

I am using your worlds, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:03 (three months ago) Permalink

i fell asleep to both of those (along w/ alien observer) every night for a year

flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:05 (three months ago) Permalink

part of that was released on vinyl:

https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Sleep-Fragment/release/3808592

so good

sleeve, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:06 (three months ago) Permalink

man i'd ruin a needle so quick with that one

flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:07 (three months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

flappy bird, Friday, 19 May 2017 07:20 (one week ago) Permalink

she is playing here next month which is something i never really expected to happen and i am beyond excited

ufo, Friday, 19 May 2017 08:51 (one week ago) Permalink


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