Parliament = Funkadelic?

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This has been bugging me for a while...what was the relationship btw the two? I always see them referred back to back, or even as Parliament/Funkadelic. I know both were related to George Clinton, but that's about it. I've heard so many good things about them and I want to start getting into them, but I would like to get this cleared up!

musically (musically), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Parliament were the singers and Funkadelic the band.
On albums Parliament were more vocal/horns led and Funkadelic the acid fried crazy rock band.

Check out http://www.duke.edu/~tmc/pfunk.html

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

they're both projects started by george clinton

funkadelic is, well, more pyschedelic and trippy, and parliament is more groovy dancable disco kinda motown funk.

clinton simultaneously worked with both groups during his career, so they're usually considered different styles of the same big band.

if you're more into solos you'll like the first 3 funkadelic albums with eddie hazel more, and if you like dancable stuff, parliament would suit you more.

strongly recommend Live/P. Funk Earth Tour (1977) album. captures their live energy so well :)

yijiao, Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The main difference was in sound (roughly: funkadelic=rock guitars and parliament=disco synths) and contract (funkadelic=westbound and parliament=casablanca.) Otherwise, there was a lot of crossover in personnel not restricted to Clinton. Bootsy Collins, Bernie Worrell, and Eddie Hazel (among many others) appear on albums by both, frinstance.

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Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

parliament were the vocal group that followed on from the parliaments, clinton's more straight-up soul band. contract dispute with label that parliament were signed to (invictus?) led to clinton getting the backing musicians signed to westbound as funkadelic, with the vocalists making "guest" appearances. as the above duders say they then diverged in style, but there's plenty of overlap in personnel, and style for that matter.

waldo jeffers scenario (haitch), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the insight...Parliament is definitely my type of group but I will make sure to check em both out. I bookmarked the other thread of Pfunk recommendations, so I should hopefully be on my way.

musically (musically), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Bootsy Collins did mainly play with Parliament, didn't he?

funkadelic is, well, more pyschedelic and trippy, and parliament is more groovy dancable disco kinda motown funk.

Generally you may be right. But then, why was "One Nation Under a Groove" credited to Funkadelic?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 22 December 2005 04:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

because, shockingly enough, it was made by funkadelic.

waldo jeffers scenario (haitch), Thursday, 22 December 2005 04:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The styles were definitely merging toward the end there. I've never thought of Parliament as just a straight-up dance band. Albums like Chocolate City or Mothership Comnnection have a groove, but it tends to get stretched out and jazzed up. The basic difference may just be that Funkadelic's groove was harder, and included more graphic lyrics. It also tended to deliver Clinton's more serious messages (America Eats It's Young, etc.), while Parliament was more fun and games.

I figure One Nation Under a Groove was relased under the Funkadelic banner because, since they were now signed to a major lable--Warners--they had to deliver some hits. ONUAG was the first Funkadelic song to make top ten on the R&B chart.

Bootsy played in both bands, as well as his own Rubber Band (mostly the same musicians). And don't forget The Brides of Funkenstein, the Horny Horns, and Parlet.

moriarty (moriarty), Thursday, 22 December 2005 05:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Remember the name change is because Clinton lost the rights to the name Parliament. Who were the rock band See the album "Osmium". So Funkadelic were born.
When he got the rights back to Parliament he made them a more groove orientated band with horns and more vocals. Leaving Funkadelic to rock out.
But yes later on there were similarities between both.
And obviously it was the same people who played on funkadelic and parliament albums mostly.

Then theres all the spin offs...

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 22 December 2005 05:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

When I said roughly, I meant roughly.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 22 December 2005 05:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Taking Sides : Parliament or Funkadelic ?

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 22 December 2005 06:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Forget the names -- it only makes sense to think of them as one band.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 22 December 2005 06:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's the way I deal with it.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 22 December 2005 06:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

PBS has a documentary AND a website that answers the questions all the funkateers want to know. One Nation Under a Groove There IS a test.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

10/10 I'm a doctor of Funkology apparently. (I managed to guess questions 1 and 3 correctly)

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

9/10. i, too, am a dr. of funkology.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

R.I.P. original bassist Cordell "Boogie" Mosson (according to Bootsy Collins on fb).

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 April 2013 15:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Fly on brother

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Friday, 19 April 2013 15:17 (four years ago) Permalink

:( RIP

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 April 2013 15:44 (four years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
two months pass...

https://t.co/0Ca8IbaR3x

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 March 2016 20:14 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Absolute titanic figure, gonna miss him

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

A giant. If you get a chance try to watch the Robert Moog documentary just to see him hanging out with Moog and Rick Wakeman. Remember when he was on the Letterman Show in the World's Most Dangerous Band for about five minutes? Perhaps it was a bit longer. It was hard to actually see him. You could just his keyboard and the bottom of his chin.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:58 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ha i totally remember him on letterman, doing flashlight for commercial breaks

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 June 2016 00:01 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'm glad I got to see him at least once, with Bootsy.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 June 2016 00:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Yeah me too - saw him several times both w Bootsy and on the mothership reunion tour

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 June 2016 00:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

What years? I saw P-funk twice but Bernie was not on either of those tours.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 June 2016 00:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Hmm 1994 or 95 w bootsy. Mothership reunion tour was later, '98 or something? Not sure. Want to say i saw him on later tours w p-funk but i'd have to check that.

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 June 2016 00:58 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I saw p-funk a bunch in th 90s/00s. Hard to keep the personnel straight in my memory. Other old school dude i was always excited to see was billy bass nelson.

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 June 2016 01:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Thinking I saw him with P-Funk once; as well as with Talking Heads.

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ugh this is terrible news. For more good Bernie Worrell playing, he is the main guy in the expanded Talking Heads band in Stop Making Sense.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

RIP :(

Secondary Modern Prometheus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 June 2016 20:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

RIP, fly on

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 June 2016 20:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

So sad, he was a synth maestro

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 24 June 2016 21:01 (eleven months ago) Permalink

much respect

brimstead, Friday, 24 June 2016 21:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

RIP

Dominique, Friday, 24 June 2016 21:24 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 June 2016 21:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

RIP Bernie. What a loss. Man was made of music.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Friday, 24 June 2016 22:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Truly one of the greats...a unique and influential genius...he'll be missed

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 24 June 2016 23:43 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I feel so sad tonight

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 25 June 2016 00:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

anybody know if there's some connection between Southside Movement and P-Funk? SM's "I've Been Watching You" from 1975 uses the "I dunno what I'm a do witcha/when I getcha/put you in my cookie jar/save you for a rainy day" - which is a Fuzzy Haskin line that was floating around forever and re-used multiple times. But I can't really figure out where the connection would be. SM weren't on Motown and weren't from any of the P-Funk geographical centers (Jersey, Detroit, Cincinnati)

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