― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 18 December 2005 07:04 (7 years ago) Permalink
reference points / descriptors ? hmm.. maybe like Tim Buckley at his most yodelriffic except with a much thinner / weedier voice..
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 18 December 2005 07:13 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 18 December 2005 07:13 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 18 December 2005 07:20 (7 years ago) Permalink
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 18 December 2005 10:48 (7 years ago) Permalink
― jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 18 December 2005 11:05 (7 years ago) Permalink
"Waiting, in the Warm Golden RainThe Sweet Silent Reign of the SunTo come againAre you ready, My SonFor to ride the Rainbow of His Light?I am ready, My FatherFor to ride this Rainbow of Your Light"
Plus several sections written in Sioux! Actually I love this stuff, but like I say it's for comedy reasons as much as for his amazing playing.
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Sunday, 18 December 2005 13:45 (7 years ago) Permalink
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Sunday, 18 December 2005 14:46 (7 years ago) Permalink
which record of his do you have, ian?
― O RLY? (eman), Sunday, 18 December 2005 16:36 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:01 (7 years ago) Permalink
― O RLY? (eman), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:14 (7 years ago) Permalink
― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Sunday, 18 December 2005 19:26 (7 years ago) Permalink
― NickB (NickB), Sunday, 18 December 2005 19:53 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:31 (7 years ago) Permalink
― I know, right?, Saturday, 12 May 2007 21:22 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Drew Daniel, Saturday, 12 May 2007 22:22 (6 years ago) Permalink
― am0n, Sunday, 13 May 2007 06:51 (6 years ago) Permalink
On iTunes there's a Vanguard Digital Vaults release of an unissued album, "Indian II"
Never seen or heard talk of this, but it seems it surfaced 2006. Downloaded and it's pretty solid Basho, though no highlight. I like that the opening track is a piano number. Still, would be worth Vanguard doing at least an actual, physical, limited release.
― matinee, Saturday, 31 May 2008 16:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've been thinking without listening to this album for a while now. Very beautiful, strange music.
― I know, right?, Sunday, 1 June 2008 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
I love how the melodies follow their own tails up surprising directions.
unreleased live album?
Live at the Kulturforum, Bonn, Germany, November 24, 1980
― eman, Monday, 13 October 2008 03:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
i remember someone or other on fmu talking about the situation regarding all the live tapes that exist - that they ended up with the, uhh, religious faction that he was involved with towards the end of his life, and that no-one knew where they were, how to get in touch, what was recorded, etc.
― schlump, Monday, 13 October 2008 05:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha what religious faction was that? i gave this a listen and it's great. possibly the best album i've heard of his.
― eman, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
listened to basho all day yesterday, it's been a long time since i just played the same records over and over. mostly 'Art of the Acoustic Steel String Guitar 6 & 12' but also some 'Rainbow Thunder'. i like his singing but i do prefer the instrumentals, i feel like his voice overshadows the guitar a bit too much when it comes in
― 6335, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
i have all these mislabeled basho mp3s but I've been listening to them over and over that one that's all "on my waaay, Colinda, lord, I'll catch the, westbound train" is slaying me lately.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Sunday, 13 September 2009 20:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
who is this colinda chick anyway?
i once used a song from 'basho sings' in a skate video and most people really dug it in that context. i suspect most of them really would not have cared for it on its own. maybe basho's ready for the big screen. he'd sure add some intensity to a sequence.
― matinee, Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
these make a great soundtrack to forrest bess paintings btw
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've grown to like his vocal albums now except for voice of the eagle which is too cheesy
― am0n, Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
crazy this is the only basho thread! anyone heard this "new" thing? http://dustedmagazine.com/reviews/7065sample sounds gorgeous.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
anyone see this? only know video footage of basho posted here: http://robbiebasho.com/Home_Page.htmlcool site overall too.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
Holy smoke, those videos! They seem to confirm what I thought I heard in the music -- there is very little random in his playing -- when improvising, he might surprise the audience, but he seems to know precisely what he's doing at all times. Also his right hand tonal and dynamic control are phenomenal.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 19:59 (9 months ago) Permalink
amazing! i knew his right hand wld be crazy but it looks so strange: floppy wrist, hand really far away playing loosely at the bridge. incredible to see.
― ogmor, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 09:23 (9 months ago) Permalink
yeah, the right hand was what was most interesting to me, don't know if i've seen anyone playing like that. hope there's more!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 14:30 (9 months ago) Permalink
Fuck, this rules! I too like how his right hand kinda curls around the guitar and the way he's almost bent over double so that his ear is right near the sound hole.
Love Basho so much but I've never explored his ouvre much beyond Bashovia and Guitar Soli. Guess I really should buy some more albums! He inspired me to play open tuned exclusively like 10 years ago when I was just starting out on guitar and I'm forever in his debt.
― liam fennell, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 16:34 (9 months ago) Permalink
Anyway, I am surprised that no one in this thread about Basho's singing mentioned Antony Hegarty.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 18:30 (9 months ago) Permalink
Well, if people mostly know his singing from the 60s, it's not that much of a surprise, but he got really good through the 70s, and his best vocal tune -- man, wow:
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 16 August 2012 06:11 (9 months ago) Permalink
holy cats
― contenderizer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 06:31 (9 months ago) Permalink
afterwards, it ask me if i want to listen to 15 minutes of pharoah sanders "the creator has a master plan"
um, yeah
― contenderizer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 06:35 (9 months ago) Permalink
I can't see youtubes at work but I really hope that's "Orphan's Lament".
― cwkiii, Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:05 (9 months ago) Permalink
Nah, it was "Blue Crystal Fire" from one year earlier -- but I do dig Orphan's Lament as well, so here it is:
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 16 August 2012 14:45 (9 months ago) Permalink
Actually, that's from the same record. Best thing Windham Hill ever put out, and it's not Windham Hilly at all.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 16 August 2012 14:46 (9 months ago) Permalink
Excellent! Love "Blue Crystal Fire" too...Visions of the Country just kills me; I think it's probably his best record.
― cwkiii, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:13 (9 months ago) Permalink
xp liam there have been a few great releases since the comps & Seal of the Blue Lotus reissue. Venus in Cancer has been reissued by tompkins square & is first-class basho imo, features both the tracks in the video footage, a surprisingly amazing piece w/ french horn & some great vocal stuff. bo'weavil also issued a nice live concert from 1980, Bonn ist Supreme, which has lots of good stuff which is otherwise OOP.
i've bitten the bullet and forked out for the reissue of Twilight Peaks which came out earlier this year - http://en.smalltownromanceblog.com/new-robbie-basho-reissue-twilight-peaks/ - some live&unreleased stuff, really good sound & quite a bit slower than versions floating around online, although idk what has gone on w/ the cover art, which imo should have been:
but yeah it's amazing, his technique has improved so much compared to the early recordings & it's an incredibly tender, gentle & calm record, mb my fav basho.
obv all his stuff should be reissued but Basho Sings!, Voice of the Eagle, Visions of the Country, & Rainbow Thunder especially. mb Zarthus too but it seems like his fruitiest record.
something i doubt will be reissued any time soon, at the other end of his career, is this lone track from a takoma comp, The Thousand Incarnations Of The Rose, which is an awesome instance of ambition carrying him through even if the technique is not 100% there & incredibly dramatic
― ogmor, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:28 (9 months ago) Permalink
*listens to robbie basho instrumental song*
"OMG this guy is the greatest of all time"
*robbie basho singing song comes up*
"....oh dear god"
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:56 (7 months ago) Permalink
^ hahahah otm
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 15 October 2012 21:36 (7 months ago) Permalink
the worst is when it's like a sublime 9 minute track that you think is instrumental but then his vocals kick in around the five minute mark
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 15 October 2012 21:37 (7 months ago) Permalink
his singing rules fuiud
― (╯︵╰,) RIP (am0n), Monday, 15 October 2012 21:42 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'm afraid i will be fu'd in this case
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 October 2012 21:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
not loving this does not compute imo
― 69, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
oh, haha. already upthread oops.
basho sings is not one of my favorite bashos, but song of the stallion and visions of the country are two of my vary favorite vocal records.
― 69, Monday, 15 October 2012 23:03 (7 months ago) Permalink
very
someone upthread compared his voice to antony hegarty, which was quite apt, as I cannot stand hegarty's voice either. i dunno, just something about it. basho is a pretty unstoppable guitarist, though. people always say jack rose was a fahey acolyte but i'd say he was more the reincarnation of basho. big arpeggiated 12 string epics. i've never been able to get into basho because his stuff is hard to find around the internet and physical copies of his stuff are also hard to find! it's almost like his work didn't get any momentum out of the takoma revival, i wonder if it's becuz of his singing/that some of his stuff was released as 'easy listening' near the end of his career?
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:42 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah, when he wasn't wearing his dr ragtime hat, jack rose played a lot on the 2nd & 4th beats, loose & expansive ala basho. he cribbed p evenly from both tho imo
― ogmor, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
So can someone recommend me some more players doing stuff similar to Basho on tracks like "The Falconer's Arm" and "Lost Lagoon Suite"? I am pretty firmly entrenched in Takoma worship, and am already quite enamored of Jack Rose, who I feel comes closest to evoking that feel imo (Catedral et Chartres <3 omg). However, James Blackshaw puts me to sleep for whatever reason, so don't tell me to check him out, unless I'm really missing something. So enlighten me. Who am I missing?
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 29 October 2012 13:38 (6 months ago) Permalink
Hey global, check out William Tyler - Behold the Spirit...
Also did you ever get lessons with peter lang?
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2012 14:17 (6 months ago) Permalink
new album by daniel bachman is very jack rose-y. not super basho-y
― tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2012 14:40 (6 months ago) Permalink
Yeah dude, 8-9 of em! It was fun. We'd do a lot of b.s'ing about music in general. He'd get a bit rambly at moments but I didn't mind- he's kind of like an endearing kooky uncle. He said I was one of the more advanced/quick learners he'd taught at the school in terms of the American Primitive style, so he taught me a lot of tunes he doesn't generally teach? Got to learn Thoth Song, which is a fun one, in fact we did all four of his off that Lang/Fahey/Kottke one. Also learned some basic blues/folk standards. Probably 15 songs in total.
Overall, it's fun to learn straight from the mind of the guy who wrote the songs, and hear stories about hanging out with Fahey/touring, the 60s, etc. I don't think I got a ton better technique wise, since I was already fairly decent. But I definitely broadened my overall sense of the fretboard and songwriting, which is probably more of a fundamental thing in American Primitive since it's less about chops and more about spirit? At the same time, he seemed like he could really get you going if you've never fingerpicked in your life, too, he's got like 3-4 more basic tunes he teaches to newer players as well. He's a good teacher in that he can teach to all levels. It was funny listening to him talk about teaching Turnpike Terror to a group of 10 year olds!
The WBSM is a fantastic thing for the community, too, so there's that too.
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 29 October 2012 15:06 (6 months ago) Permalink
I'm surprised at the number of people here do dislike Basho's singing, A North American Raga is one of my favorites of his, and all of Song of the Stallion. I especially love the songs where his voice comes in after 5 minutes of beautiful guitar. What I dig about Basho is how serious he was, his mysticism and all.
― JacobSanders, Monday, 29 October 2012 15:49 (6 months ago) Permalink
cool global, currently playing phone tag w.him can't wait to start...
it's less about chops and more about spirit?
man i've just now started playing closer attention technique in listening to fahey and that guy's tempo is BONKERS...like he's constantly speeding up and slowing down, maybe on purpose?
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:22 (6 months ago) Permalink
yeah, i think it's mainly on purpose, there was some quote where he talked about his sense of time, but i can't remember where. there are definitely tempo things that fahey does that i've found to be mindsplitting, sort of other dimension playing that i don't think you could ever "learn."
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:30 (6 months ago) Permalink
i need to read more about fahey, but yeah it's striking, where, god, i bet he's swinging 20 bpms either way in the course of one song
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:39 (6 months ago) Permalink
or the same larger phrase!
been a while since i read it, but fahey wrote his thesis on charley patton, and patton is the king of irregular tempos/bizarro rhythms. as well as being the king of the delta blues.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:42 (6 months ago) Permalink
yeah duh, of course, tons of those delta dudes had way fucked up phrasing and meter, so i guess that's only natural
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:43 (6 months ago) Permalink
My God, how was anyone able to enjoy music before drum machines were invented? (What's amatta with you people?)
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:46 (6 months ago) Permalink
i wasn't saying it was bad, just notable.
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:46 (6 months ago) Permalink
― JacobSanders, Monday, October 29, 2012 3:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
EXACTLY
― 69, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:53 (6 months ago) Permalink
The phrasing/timing variations are definitely intentional, warping time/space to get into your subconscious.
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:03 (6 months ago) Permalink
fahey version of waltzing matilda makes a good case study imo
― ogmor, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:20 (6 months ago) Permalink
just got into him for the first time because myspace, of all places, suggested him after i listened to the only HQ version of Gene Estribou's "Eeee Minor" on the internet.
it's been a day, and all i've done all day is listen to him, and holy fuck.
― hilarious topless cookie chef (the table is the table), Friday, 25 January 2013 02:29 (3 months ago) Permalink
sooooo have we all checked this out yet? http://archive.org/details/RobbieBashoLiveAtTheDeliNaturalRestaurantCedarRapidsIowa
― tylerw, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:09 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
actually a bunch of live basho on the archive (and the same stuff here: http://www.bluemomentarts.de/bma/rbasho_archives/en/special.html)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
:D thx
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
listening to this early 80s interview/performance now - pretty sweet: http://archive.org/details/1.RobbieBashoLiveFromStudioOneKuni
― tylerw, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
all of this stuff is amazing fyi
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
When Robbie says at the beginning of the California Raga, "well he knows where the vibes are" it was because a large dog had climbed on stage and laid his head on Robbie's foot, where he remained staring up at him throughout the rest of the song
:D
― am0n, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Thanks for this! Gonna enliven a dull day at work
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Also that Basho doc doesn't seem like it's gonna hit its Kickstarter goal. Dunno why but I find that a bit sad :(
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
lol:
Basho lashes out at Americans for their " degenerate moral standards and lack of manners " which he says are evident in comtemporary music. " Punk rock is demonic, degenerate ". He advocates a " back to basic melodies "
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I agree and disagree with that.
― ḉrut (crüt), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
haha, well he was signed to windham hill...can't imagine any of those dudes would be like oh yeah i love the dead boys.
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:50 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the syntax on that is pretty fucked but if i'm reading it right, he's advocating going back to basics? and yet, as awesome as his music is, it is pretentious and obtuse and overstuffed in so many myriad ways, and punk would fulfill a 'back to basics' to a much greater extent imo?
it's fun hearing his chatter on these boots, he seems ever more like a big weirdo, i love it
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
And he never lost the Baltimore accent, which I find awesome.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:38 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i couldn't really imagine any of those guys loving punk rock really
― jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:42 (1 week ago) Permalink