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― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)
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ta for the tips
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)
So I went back and listened to not only "Hide & Seek" but Imogen's first album (which, sorry to report, just isn't as good as I thought it was 7 years ago, ouch the lyrics Imogen, throw out that diary! - though two b-sides still stand up, the DJ Shadow knock-off "Wireless" and the deliberately ugly "Leave Me To Love", and I guess I'll check for album track "Come Here Boy" out of loyalty) and brainstormed.
All I could come up with was two suggestions:
1) some New Buffalo, like the second half of "About Last Night" and "Just A Little Time". Neither of these songs go quite as Cher's "Believe" as they threaten to (which is a shame) and maybe they remain a bit too winsomely indie, but they're both lovely, and what they share with "Hide & Seek" is a vision of love failing in a high tech future (reproduced in the music in New Buffalo's case: on that first ep it's got that Avalanches woozy cracking vibe overlaying the evocations of tech - synths and vocoders - like yr watching an episode of The Jetsons on a damaged tape).
2) less formally similar but somehow closer, some Jane Siberry, like "The Lobby" and "The Taxi Ride", which is appropriate because Jane recorded her own Laurie Anderson homage (though "Mimi on the Beach" is not a suitable recommendation unfortunately). What these songs share with "Hide & Seek" is (simultaneously and respectively) a sense of choral multitudes and perfect starkness, and that sense of being love songs from the end of time, like the collective consciousness of the universe is painfully reconciling itself to an inevitable but long-avoided splitting in two. I highly recommend these Cozen if you haven't heard them already, they also share a certain something with The Blue Nile.
On this last point... in another thread Mitch (as Jermaine) complained about Pitchfork's treatment of "Hide & Seek", which was to celebrate how it stripped "O Superman" of its pretentiousness - as if the alterna-rock langue which Imogen has at her disposal is the only proper voice for emotive pop music. I agree with Mitch, not least because such a treatment ignores the way that "Hide & Seek" works by doing the very opposite and much more interesting thing, dragging this alterna-rock langue towards a place where it can understand "O Superman" - the sense in which "Hide & Seek" works is a sense which renders the details of its lyrics functionally irrelevant, cowering before the grandeur of its contours, its formal affectiveness.
We are confronted by this critical presumption hat the beauty of romance in the love song is in the stringing together of personalised details, the production of reality. I'm interested in how stuff like "Hide & Seek" (despite some of its lyrics) and Jane Siberry ballads and The Blue Nile present love as something very metaphysical and non-personal but no less deep, a sort of collective understanding of the collectively unknowable, that space where "O Superman" and a three-minute pop song are one and the same.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)
I'd just like to pick this out and leave it here, like an echo
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
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― ghostxorz of olde, Friday, 16 December 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)
Hanne Hukkelberg - Ease (in C mix)
I'll try to remember to yousendit a live version of the former tomorrow. I'm getting a turn back you poxy fule type server overload message from the ysi site at the moment.
― hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 22 December 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
Oh, what the hell. Here it is anyway:http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2919QXEMVOEP61A6OG06GJX46X
― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)
― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)
I have started using the name 'techmo' to fix what we appear to be skirting around on this thread.
[I haven't forgotten about the MoM YSI and will get it up here when my broadband is working again.]
― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 18:08 (twenty years ago)
Lali Puna - 'Alienation' (from Faking the books)Broadcast - 'You and me in time' (from Tender Buttons)Efterklang - 'Collecting Sheilds' (from 'Tripper')My Bloody Valentine - 'To Here knows when' (From 'Loveless' / Tremelo ep)
I too had wondered about the extent to which certain Radiohead tracks could fit on such a C90 (Packt like sardines..., everything in it's right place, idioteque). At times, they have a complimentary sound but it's a differently directed sadness that they express. Depends whether you want to wallow in society's misery as well as your own.
There's a bit of me that thinks you could get some Ivor Cutler on there as well but I'll need to do a bit of digging to find exactly the kind of thing I mean.
― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― mox twelve (Mox twleve), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)
Kidding. How about Hector Zazou's Songs from the Cold Seas, with various singers?
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 12 January 2006 07:30 (twenty years ago)
― hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 19 January 2006 10:42 (twenty years ago)
God, this song...fuck.
― Tape Store, Sunday, 13 April 2008 20:47 (eighteen years ago)
i just saw some song that samples this pretty liberally?
― just sayin, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 19:26 (sixteen years ago)
Yep, it was #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 last week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBI3lc18k8Q
― matt2, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)
i just saw some song that samples this pretty liberally?jason derulo
― Josh L, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)
The Derulo track was used for a hip-hop dance routine during So You Think You Can Dance last night
― Paul in Santa Cruz, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)
btw no mention yet of the SNL parody that used this trackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD9iJgFBxbE
― Paul in Santa Cruz, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)
master looping "just for now" live at some radio station:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25VGdNU3nrU
― nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 19 November 2009 00:43 (sixteen years ago)
I didn't realize "Whatcha Say" sampled "Hide And Seek." I just thought they sounded similar.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 19 November 2009 05:49 (sixteen years ago)
that derulo sampling is kind of both terrible and amusing enough to justify itself
― Nhex, Thursday, 19 November 2009 06:07 (sixteen years ago)
God this song... sucks
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 10 March 2014 07:01 (twelve years ago)
no i like it
― dyl, Monday, 10 March 2014 07:55 (twelve years ago)