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this album here is the shit.

whatever happened to her?

― gear (gear), Sunday, 6 November 2005 07:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

She 'abruptly withdrew from the recording industry' according to the liner notes of my compilation album. She was definitely the shit.

― moley, Sunday, 6 November 2005 08:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

She was a nasty gal!

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 6 November 2005 11:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey, I have that album. Sadly it's not with me so I can't get at it. But surely someone else can.

― duke of marlboro (mickeygraft), Sunday, 6 November 2005 12:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

I've only just discovered that she was Mrs Miles Davis.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 November 2005 13:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

her albums are amazing.

after reading the allmusic bio, i wonder if anyone's heard the "aborted 1979 session" recordings?

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 6 November 2005 14:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

I've got a few things from them that mullygrubber sent me. I wasn't mad about them, but I Need A Whole Lot Of Love was good.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 November 2005 14:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

Here's a ysi:

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FCY7BBKG003C2K2NVNRJNDH2F

The track Crashin' From Passion's good too, actually, in a manic kind of way.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 November 2005 14:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

I have an album of hers. Can't remember the title, but it's GREAT. Didn't she have an affair with Jimi Hendrix and introduced her husband to funk?

― Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Sunday, 6 November 2005 15:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Is this the same Betty Davis that sounds like Macy Gray? The one that did that "Oooh I wantcha daddy I want cha!" song? If so, then "DUD DUD DUDDY DUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is what I'd be saying if this were a Classic or Dud thread. But as it is, I'll just silently shake my head and wonder what is wrong with you people.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 6 November 2005 15:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

crack'd out like christgau you are, snrub

― gear (gear), Sunday, 6 November 2005 19:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

Anyone who can look at that LP cover and NOT instantly covet the music inside is not a person I can relate to at all! (Think I'll check $l$k.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 6 November 2005 20:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

as to what happened to her- she supposedly lives a norma desmondesque life in pittsburgh.

― mike bott, Sunday, 6 November 2005 23:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

There was a piece on her in Mojo or somewhere equally sensible very recently. But I'm not finding it now, dagnamit,

― snotty moore, Monday, 7 November 2005 00:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm with Snrub. Totally overrated.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

wrong

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

nope. I bought this newish best-of a few months ago, absolutely looked forward to it, I'd read and heard about her for years, and it was the most embarrassing, mawkish shit I'd ever heard (though the stuff on the third album was OK).

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

wrong

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha "it's obscure so it therefore must be GREAT" hivemind shockah

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

please, I heard this for the first time at a record store, not even knowing what it was, and immediately bought it. hivemind?

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

i mean, christ matos, i don't toe any obscure=automatic goodness partyline

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

fine, you don't. a lot of people do.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

why do you think they do in this case?

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

because who could resist the backstory? I certainly couldn't! Miles wrote about her in his autobio as a precursor to Madonna, she had the aforementioned affair w/Hendrix, and I am an absolute sucker for dirty talk and funk beats and combinations thereof. I was very disappointed when I actually heard it--though the stuff from the third album sounded a lot better to me. maybe I need to try it again, but I sort of doubt those first two listens were all that off, to my ear.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Great lyrics too - 'He was a big freak / I used to whip him with my purple chain' - Prince himself couldn't top that one.

― moley (moley), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

first time I checked out 'they say I'm different' by myself, with my cd player, in a room by myself, and offhandedly thought it was cool but that I'd heard better

second time I heard it at a party with a roomful of people screaming along and it was unfuckwithable

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 7 November 2005 01:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

when i first heard them album--and i mention this because matos said funky beats--i thought it was a rock album, i didn't hear any funk at all. i think you should listen to her first album again, matos!

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 November 2005 02:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

We playyed her - sorry, dropped her - at a club recently. It was definitely unfuckwithable and a surefire floor filler.

― moley (moley), Monday, 7 November 2005 02:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Try saying 'surefire floorfiller' really fast, over and over again. It's surprisingly difficult.

― moley (moley), Monday, 7 November 2005 02:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

when i first heard them album--and i mention this because matos said funky beats--i thought it was a rock album, i didn't hear any funk at all.

haha maybe this was my problem! I will play it again, gear.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 02:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

actually my problem is her voice, but I'll still play it again.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 7 November 2005 02:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's actually a TURQOISE chain.

― JayBabcock (jabbercocky), Monday, 7 November 2005 06:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, I'm colourblind.

― moley, Monday, 7 November 2005 07:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Colourdeaf, you mean.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 7 November 2005 08:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

The best album of hers, by far, is THEY SAY I'M DIFFERENT... Good songs, great band (check the personnel at allmusic or whatever--if it's not there, I'll type it in for y'all), great album cover (and poster!). Sampled all ovet the place, so you probably already know half of it. As my gf of that time said" "horny feminist funk." Amazing stuff, and one can only wonder what it was like when performed live...

When I edited Mean magazine for 9 months in '99-00 (or whenever it was), I managed to track her down via her lawyer but she wouldn't talk. The Mojo piece was... Well, she talked but she didn't say anything, either because she can't remember or she thinks it improper to talk about some stuff. (or, giving her the benefit of the doubt, there really is nothing to say...) My feeling is there's a lot more there than she's letting on, and any woman who was at/near the nexus point between Hendrix and Miles Davis, when they were at (or nearing) creative peaks, who apparently singlehandedly moved Miles into fusion/rock/what-have-you, has got to have something insightful to relay. Add that she made three pretty amazing, pretty hardcore records in a row, well.... Ay yi yi!

― JayBabcock (jabbercocky), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

I wrote this in February:

I'm In Love With Betty Davis

Two interesting tidbits:

"While Miles was working on Bitches Brew, Davis cut an album with a dream-team band consisting of Wayne Shorter and Tony Williams from Miles' band with Miles producing, and Billy Cox and Mitch Mitchell. Afraid of Betty's success, Miles insisted the album be shelved."

Who knows if that will ever see the light of day.

Also, Talkin' Trash: The Definitive Betty Davis was supposed to come out a long time ago on Aztec Music, but I haven't seen anything.

― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Light in the Attic reissuing her first two awesome awesome awesome records

― Dominique, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wish RTX was more like Betty Davis

― sexyDancer, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

I actually posted this (in a slightly pre-altered version) on the metal and country threads earlier this week:

Light In The Attic Records is reissuing two '70s albums by Betty Davis, who was married to Miles and dated Hendrix, at least as the legend goes. The label sent me an advance promo CD that combines both albums, though they're actually being released separatelty. Most of what I wrote in *Stairway To Hell* about the marginally better of the two, *They Say I'm Different,* (which coincidentally is the only one of the two I *don't* own on vinyl now) still stands: She has way too thin a voice, can't carry a melody to save her life, and the songs mostly lack hooks, but when she just the rides the groove, the music can get really good, and in songs like "Come Take Me" and "Don't Call Her No Tramp" the groove gets fairly monstrous, almost in a Jimmy Castor Bunch funk-metal way. On the other hand, white rock bands from Nazareth to Aerosmith to Black Oak Arkansas rocked funkier at the time, in part because they were way catchier and had way stronger singers, so big, deal, right? Though sometimes her big-afro attitude helps, too, of course, though not nearly as much as people who wind up reviewing the reissues will pretend, I bet. Funniest song: Still "He Was a Big Freak," where she whips the guy with a turquoise chain. "Steppin In Her I. Miller Shoes" is both a great title and a good track. "If I'm In Luck I Might Get Picked Up" and "Game Is My Middle Name" and "Shoo-B-Doop and Cop Him" are not as good as their titles. but a few other cuts come close maybe.

― xhuxk, Saturday, 24 February 2007 13:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

t/s: betty davis vs. ruth copeland

(yeah, i know, betty wins. but i've been enjoying the invictus sessions a lot lately.)

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 24 February 2007 14:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

t/s betty davis vs. nona hendryx (nona wins, i think -- at least if you put her first two solo albums up against betty's.)

― xhuxk, Saturday, 24 February 2007 14:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

i still have never heard these records. i got spam about them from that reissue label, but i probably won't bug them for copies. the critic-love i never got was for essra mohawk. or maybe i just had the wrong album.

― scott seward, Saturday, 24 February 2007 15:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

the marginally better of the two, *They Say I'm Different

I actually like the first record better: better songs, better beats, better production, and *way* better playing -- having sly's drummer and bassist (not to mention sometimes Sly) be your rhythm section = damn

and Black Oak Arkansas??? Aerosmith I could almost give you (tho again, no offense to their Berklee schooled drummer, but he has nothing on Greg Errico), but I'm hearing a lot more early Funkadelic (or more accurately, the Parliament album on Invictus) here than classic rock

― Dominique, Saturday, 24 February 2007 17:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Chock this one up to the Seattle Weekly. I read the whole article in there and was utterly fascinated. Now I've checked out her music and I'm smitten. Reissues due May 15, I believe. I can't wait.

― Bimble, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Shit is pre-ordered!

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Ooh great! Will need to pick them up.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.emusic.com/artist/11774/11774210.html

― abanana, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the article definitely got me interested. I was given a label sampler from someone from Light In The Attic that I should give an ear. I'm pretty sure it has some of her stuff.

― The Reverend, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

I've tried and tried but I'm just not feelin' the funk when it comes to Betty. She sounds constipated, not nasty.

― Capitaine Jay Vee, Monday, 7 May 2007 06:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah I just listened to her for the first time recently, They Say I'm Nasty, not quite as weird or skanky as I hoped. gonna try agin, tho.

― m coleman, Monday, 7 May 2007 09:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

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I used to beat him with a turquoise chain!

― girl moves (Abbott), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 05:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ok so Abbott is invited to my dance party. Some of these other folks I dunno about.

― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Was anyone else underwhelmed by the "new" album? :I

― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Wow so much hate for Betty Davis on this thread. I always hated people putting too much high expectation on black females voices. More than anyone else, a black woman's voice is the most scrutinized in music IMO. Betty's voice goes well with the music IMO. She mostly plays an attitude driven funk warrior and her voice fits that. Technicality of voice usually doesn't apply in those situations. (Funk and rock as shown examples of this with the male musicians).

I loved discovering Betty Davis. I think her albums are cool and in a way she is a lost treasure because her influence wasn't apparent (if she had any). I really love her second album and have it on vinyl. I always thought Grace Jones was the only bat shit crazy black female artist and glad their was a US born counterpart. (I know Betty was crazy only on stage and not offstage apparently).

It's strange how their are so many male artist who admire her than female. I would like to know how female artists thought of her. It seems like the only person who reminds me of her is Joi. (Who doesn't have her own ILM topic btw. Talk about blasphemy!!!) Plus I heard she did an album with Miles but it got scrapped. Since both have an abrasive tone to her instruments I wonder if that would be interesting or headache inducing to listen to.

― lilsoulbrother, Monday, 15 February 2010 04:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Wow so much hate for Betty Davis on this thread.

Sometimes ILM should be IHM.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

buncha jerks on this thread

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe some will have changed their mind on it.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

TBF I could imagine someone like xgau in 1973 just drowning in funk records and not thinking much of Betty Davis. I mean like every third record that came out had a funky-as-hell beat so it probably took a little more to impress. And they're not really great records.

― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

dude citing Angelfood McSpade in his review is some fairly indefensible racist garbage. sorry "Dean".

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

wtf

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

didn't xgau call Hendrix a psychedelic uncle tom or something? or was that someone else. in his defense, I can see how Betty Davis records could be seen as cartoonish. not a bad thing, in my opinion -- i think they're fun records in that way.

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

you can call something cartoonish without referencing an explicitly sexist/racist caricature of a horny african tribeswoman in a grass skirt with Black Sambo lips

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

yes, true.

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

xgau:
Betty Davis [Just Sunshine, 1973]
Between her connections (wife of Miles, girlfriend of Jimi) and her concept (autonomous black woman forges metal funk), Betty's got a head start in the hype department. She makes up for these advantages, however, with a forced, narrow voice and a complete absence of riff sense or melodic gift. On the other hand, she--or producer-drummer Greg Errico of the Family Stone--does know a lot about rhythm. Upshot: most overstated comic-book sex since Angelfood McSpade. B-

What an arsehole

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

DUD DUD DUDDY DUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j/k, love her

― Matt P, Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

im just amazed at the xgau worship when he wrote racist shit like that.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

lester bangs had some questionable stuff too ...

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 May 2010 20:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

im just amazed at the xgau worship when he wrote racist shit like that.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, May 6, 2010 4:45 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Even without the blatant racism, the guy's a fucking tool who completely sucks at what he does.

― Bill Magill, Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Depends on what you think he does.

― too dancy, rocking, jazzy, funky or american (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

he annoys bill is what he does!

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

he's great at that though!

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

First time I heard Betty Davis was about a year ago when a friend of mine was playing random shit off of her ipod and a Betty track came on, don't know which, and I said "who is this? reminds me of captain beefheart." lol. Have little idea why I said that. Anyway, tracked down those three albums and love all of them, though not for the same reasons I love beefheart obvs.

Anyway, I also know some people I would call friends, who I sometimes suspect of being bigger fans of music critics than they are of any bands that they purport to be fans of. Truth be told, even though these dudes do really exist, they are also strawmen that I invent and attack for having the slightest preference for aesthetics different than my own. Nonetheless, people with more than a summary knowledge of who christgau even is, live on an almost completely different planet than the one in which I inhabit.

― Mister Jim, Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dunno what's racist about that xgau excerpt -- he thinks she's a black cartoon like Angelfood McSpade, big fucking deal. And he's OTM about her sharp rhythmic sense and non-talent for melodies.

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

OH OK HOW COULD WE MISS THAT

― silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

ding ding

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

he thinks she's a black cartoon like Angelfood McSpade, big fucking deal

He PRAISES her for it. would you be cool with critics praising Li'l Wayne for bein a Li'l Black Sambo?

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Bette Davis has more in common with McSpade than Lil Wayne does with Sambo! The comparison doesn't work.

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

"man Louis Armstrong, he can't really sing but I sure love the way he fits my favorite racist stereotype"

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

all that shuffling and smiling, just awesome!

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

seriously Alfred wtf

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

She's pretty good at being a dumb Robert Crumb cartoon -- that's what he saying. I find Adam Lambert a pretty decent minstrel.

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think betty davis sucks too btw, just throwing that out there. She ruins some decent productions with her weak voice.

― Times New Excels At (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Someone sum this thread up with a "FFFFUUUUUUUU" cartoon please

― Sweet Sister Raistlin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kind of weird that the "Critic" would pick up on her fitting a stereotype, but slam her music. In his autobiography, Miles says how he respected guys like Armstrong but hated how they played to white audiences by grinning and shucking and jiving and shit. So he tried to keep it all about the music. Strange that his wife would be praised for just the opposite, but then consider the source of the "critique".

― Bill Magill, Thursday, 6 May 2010 21:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

She's pretty good at being a dumb Robert Crumb cartoon -- that's what he saying.

I'm aware that's what he's saying. that's the problem.

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm aware that's what he's saying. that's the problem.

Well, fine, but I don't find it "racist."

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Strange that his wife would be praised for just the opposite, but then consider the source of the "critique".

We're talking about a woman who sings amelodically about kinky sex, right?

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well, fine, but I don't find it "racist."

in general, a white guy telling a black person they are an excellent example of an offensive stereotype is kinda racist FYI

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Er, if you actually listen to Betty Davis' lyrics, they're certainly more complex than that stupid caricature. Yeah, she sings about "kinky sex", but do many other artists. I think she manages to make her subject matter interesting in a way that goes beyond any caricature; and on the second album you have tunes like "Don't Call Her No Tramp" or "70's Blues", which certainly put things in a wider context than just "kinky sex".

― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't hear the complexity, sorry; and her voice doesn't make me want to peer beneath their surfaces.

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

And yet you are willing to make grand statements what she's all about.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, because I own both albums and listened to them several times.

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Betty Davis' lyrics are about taking control of your sexuality, IIRC that Robert Crumb cartoon is about a racist cartoon nympho who has no problem getting raped and abused - even if you don't see the complexity, there's still a big difference between the two.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fair enough. I'll give'em another shot tonight.

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm not saying you have to like Betty Davis or find her lyrics compelling in any way... I just wanted to point out that the caricature she is compared to is really quite different from her lyrics, even if they're both about black women who enjoy sex, so you shouldn't be defending that comparison.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Like I said, I'll give'em another shot, but from what I remember the results don't support her intentions. I can't separate lyrics from voice, no matter how pithy the sentiments.

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

I realized the other day that if an artist puts any kind of dirty/kinky/sexually over-the-top lyrics over really any type of music, I will 99% likely enjoy that song.

― This is four-dimensional art; the 4th dimension is incredibly powerful. (Abbott), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

not to esp defend r crumb, but angelfood mcspade is a little complicated than just being a racist caricature imho... she's, maybe, a quasi-racist caricature of a racist caricature, one that riffs on the hidden and not so hidden racism of american popular culture like cartoons and comic strips. i'm not sure how that helps lazy old xgau, tho

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah I know, it's the same with his infamous "nigger hearts" strip - wasn't sure if I wanted to muddy the waters with the issue (is it a parody, or is it an homage? or just more R. Crumb masturbatory material? or all three?) Crumb is tricky. but Xgau's namedrop ref is terrible nonetheless.

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

http://soundcloud.com/lightintheatticrecords/iggy-pop-zig-zags-if-im-in

Great concept, great vocal performance by Iggy, but man, the backing band sucks.

― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 September 2012 16:14 (8 months ago) Permalink

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