TS: What kind of Chinese Democracy is likely to occur first? The GnR album or actual democracy in China?

OMG! It's really coming!

yeah, saw a pic of it in HMV yesterday.

POSTERS!!!!! IN THE TUBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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what a crappy anticlimatic cover

wait til you hear the single.

Guns'n'hovis.

Yep! and you said it first, but not last!

I've heard it. It sounds nothing like any previous Guns N' Roses record, but it's very good in a weird cyber-thrash-rawk way.

i heard one of the tracks (the first one i think?) a couple of weeks ago and it sounded like a train wreck

so the album happened first

hey, China's still got 5 days to get their shit together.

4 stars in Rolling Stone. Ridiculous, sad, irrelevant dinosaur shall praise ridiculous, sad, irrelevant dinosaur.

man the ads for this are everywhere

how big of a bomb is this going to be?

Well, it seems like a given that it'll do big first week numbers and get tons and tons of press so it'll be a success in the short run...but yeah, a couple months down the road, noone will be listening to it and radio won't be playing anything from it and it will have sold way less than previous GNR albums.

is that cover a photo a of axl's crazy old man bike that he rides to and from the crazy old man studio

remember when he built bukethead a chicken coop right inside the studio then took him to disneyland - that was the best

parts of this remind me of the vampire musical dude is working on in "forgetting sarah marshall"

hahaha

"Axl you need to see a psychiatrist/but I don't want to see a psychiatrist/you should really see a psychiatrist"...

So it's leaked...and it's awful...TRULY awful...but I can't stop listening to it...

okay now i'm starting to like this i think...or it's fascinating at least

Klosterman: "I've been thinking about this record for 15 years; during that span, I've thought about this record more than I've thought about China, and maybe as much as I've thought about the principles of democracy. "

I hope he's fucking kidding.

im listening right now and wow its really true what they say abt axls voice being shot

one of the worst things ever predictably

Hmmmm. Kinda weird. The only original member left is the singer. And his voice is unrecognizable.

Sounds like Smashing Pumpkins covering the Darkness

so where is my free Dr. Pepper?

also chuck OTM about those opening sentences, almost made me stop reading right there

(er above re: Klosterman review sorry wrong thread)

"In order to get a coupon for the free Dr. Pepper, you must go to the website, drpepper.com, and register online. You will then receive a coupon for a free 20-oz Dr. Pepper wherever the drink is sold.

The coupon will only be available on November 23, the release date of the album, and expire on February 28."

on sunday I'm gonna kick back, throw chinese democracy on the stereo, and savor the delicious ambrosia of my free 20oz dr pepper. what a life!

srsly is this thing really coming out on a sunday?

WHY YES, YES IT IS

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liked pareles review in the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/arts/music/23pare.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&hp&adxnnlx=1227212190-FwYjVqrjj047gE8%20d%206cBQ

In a 2007 interview, Axl Rose's close friend Sebastian Bach stated that Chinese Democracy will be the first installment in a trilogy of new albums. Bach also remarked that Rose had told him the third, as yet untitled, album has been slated for 2012.

Chinese Democracy is not good music imho.

Chinese Democracy is actually worse than Visiting Day in the first season of The Sopranos.

The album concludes with five bombastic power ballads in a row.

i've had the leaked demos for a while and they really are growing on me, even if they are dated-sounding and overreaching. i will buy this thing the day it comes out, because i'm THAT fuckin loyal. and i like dr pepper.

Been listening to the Myspace stream, and wow, Auto-Tune ahoy...

I listened to the second youtube up there. It takes a minute for the music to start, and another minute for the song to get going. The riff and the phrasing refuse to groove on purpose. The shrieking harmony reminds me of Paul Leary's solo album.

i kind of like this

axl really needs to collaborate with jennifer herrema, they could make the masterpiece of ridiculously overprocessed hard rock

As a pearl pagoda forged to entomb wretched excess, WAR couldn't have picked a better time to unleash it: right at the start of the Great Depression II. Cool. I'm fascinated listening to it as an amazingly vulgar joke. Best yuks so far: MLK as guest rapper and those four notes bellowed by some huge choir that end one of the endless power-ballad-y things. And how rock-n-roll is that cover art?