Which rappers do you think may have actually killed someone in the past?

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For example, Ice Cube always talks about "blasting people" on Straight Outta Compton, but I doubt he's ever shot anyone in real life. It's probably just part of his act.

Which ones are believable? I think Slick Rick actually shot his cousin, right? What are some more examples?

Michelob, Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hammer did time as a teenager for shooting a convenience store clerk.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

Chi Ali

DJMonsterMo, Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

Vanilla Ice killed Robert Van Winkle.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

You're thinking of Strapped! And he was the shoot-ee not the shooter.

I don't know, maybe he ALSO shot somebody for real

I'm sure Fat Joe / Joe Crack has murdered a few motherfuckers. Ditto Big Pun. Didn't Keith Murray stab somebody?

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

C-Murder.

Ice Cube went to community college to study architecture.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

Keith Urban blasted a motherfucker in a bar for messing with his dingo.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

Kenny Chesney dragged a man down the street just because he was wearing stripes with polka-dots.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Toby Keith broke a couple of necks after getting bad service in a restaurant in Wheeling, WV.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Dixie Chicks ate a dude once.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Vince Gill once sang a note so high that he melted the cerebral cortexes of half of his audience.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

most hip-hop ain't sample based anymore. which is why most of it sucks.

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), September 30th, 2005.

, Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

George Jones has a laser beam in his penis that he uses to fight crime.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Johnny Cash's alibi was that he shot a man in Reno, but that's so no one knows he was setting off pipe bombs with sarin in Tokyo.

a picture of a fat girl hugging Rick Perry, awesome (Matt Chesnut), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ice Cube went to community college to study architecture.

-- Whiney G. Weingarten (cweingarte...), Today 2:48 PM. (whineyg)

Arizona State University is not community college, cmj-duder. I know you went to Brandeis or Hamilton or somewhere equally hard but lay-off the PAC10.

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

ILX sure is snarky as of late.

Super Cub (Debito), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

prior to ASU Cube was enrolled at either UCLA or USC, I forget which - he was studying mechanical drafting.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

also, there was this one time Ice Cream Tee's hair turned into snakes and her entire audience petrified - this was in Cleveland I think

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

tupac shot biggie or vice versa

amon (eman), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Toby Keith broke a couple of necks after getting bad service in a restaurant in Wheeling, WV.

wouldn't you do the same?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Wouldn't it be kind of funny if like one of the guys from De La Soul or P.M. Dawn had capped someone? It would totally be shocking.

Super Cub (Debito), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

Jin killed his manager after his career went down the toilet, but he still couldn't get arrested

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

Big Lurch to thread

amon (eman), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

"of late"

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

Arizona State University is not community college, cmj-duder. I know you went to Brandeis or Hamilton or somewhere equally hard but lay-off the PAC10.

Criminy! I wasn't taking a shot, i just got my facts bungled.

PS: Unlike most employed writers I know, I went to a shitty state school in Florida. Go Gators!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 1 October 2005 21:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Game has a tear tattooed underneath one of his eyes. I've been led to believe this indicates he has killed a human being, but I wouldn't know.

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

The tear tattoo is usually for dead homies, not for killings.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Dee Dee Ramone
Rappin' Grandma

kurt broder (dr g), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Saturday, 1 October 2005 23:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

oh wait they were punk

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Saturday, 1 October 2005 23:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

lil' bow wow then

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Saturday, 1 October 2005 23:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

Prison tat info:
http://www.foto8.com/issue01/dprisontattoos/prisontattoos3.html

Baby has one too.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Sunday, 2 October 2005 00:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

Deborah Harry

Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

Didn't the Sugarhill Gang kill the Furious Five ?

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

And then Run Dmc killed the Furious Five.

E. Money Bags (he was a 90s rapper from Queens and made a few records with Nas, CNN/Noreaga, Kool G. Rap) killed some dude and then got killed himself, on order of Kenneth "Supreme" Mcgriff (the Queens kingpin from the Supreme Team who 50 Cent mentioned on his old track "ghetto quaran" and then got shot for "dry snitchin'" and funded Ja Rule's label Murder Inc with his drug money).

Snoop, perhaps..? Although he got away with it.

Jay Z is rumored to have killed someone.

Fat Joe hung out with some really nasty people like Charlie Rock L.D (who ending up serving 20 years or so for murder) and Tony Montana (who's now dead) so it's a possibilty.

There's the very first NYC gangsta/thug rap group Mobstyle, who consisted of the 80s Harlem drug kinpin Azie plus Gangsta Lou, Pretty Tone Capone and Whip Wop who all were known for not fucking around.

Eric B has a very real reputation too (funding early Eric B. & Rakim records via drug money, hanging with killers like Alpo and the original 50 Cent, putting Large Professor of Main Source in hospital and running Kool G. Rap out of NYC to Arizona after Eric B's crew started killing 'G Rap's crew off).

Although, any thug credentials Eric B. has may be nullified by his mock-brawling with Stone Cold Steve Austin in 1997 when he was doing security for Mike Tyson's WWF stint.

Ellis, Sunday, 2 October 2005 09:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think RZA was tried for murder a long time ago and was not convicted

richard wood johnson, Sunday, 2 October 2005 17:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Dan Perry sure is snarky as of late.

-- Super Cub (messag...), October 1st, 2005.

Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Sunday, 2 October 2005 17:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think RZA was tried for murder a long time ago and was not convicted

attempted

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

"as of late"

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Weren;t Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud thought to be Paul C's killers by some?

mucho, Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

Weren;t Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud thought to be Paul C's killers by some?

tell me more

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

Noreaga killed some guy when he was still a juvenile. He got a really short sentence.

Robert Bell (robertbell), Monday, 3 October 2005 01:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

Rakim killed 21 guys on "My Melody."

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ad-rock killed a ham sandwich once

gear (gear), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

Inspector Deck was charged by the system for murdering the rhythm.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

More seriously, I believe I read someplace, like B-Real's blog or some shit (which I can't find now of course) that B had been pretty heavily involved in gangbanging, and the song "Hand on the Pump" or maybe "How I Could Just Kill a Man" was based on some incident where he shot a guy in self defense, but didn't quite kill him, and ended up doing time on ag assault or similar.

Helpful, eh?

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

Vanilla Ice killed Robert Van Winkle.

Your father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Robert Van Winkle and became Vanilla Ice. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I have told you was true . . . from a certain point of view.

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

I've heard that Funk Flex is killin' 'em out there.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

yo yo yo let me speak on dis

back in 78/79 yo dat barry b-eze andrews was tryin to take over da xtc krew from swindon with his homo organ shiznit yo and tryin to take tha hoes and bitches

so i was talkin to c-money and i was like "we gonna kill that biatch" so i fuckin shot him after he be performing "ladies luv mah weapon" and he fuckin died

so i replaced dat biatch with dave-5000 and we be usin drums and wires and gin and juice STRAIGHT OUTTA SWINDON yo

gangsta andy partridge, Monday, 3 October 2005 03:24 (8 years ago) Permalink


Da Veep dropped A-Ham

gear (gear), Monday, 3 October 2005 03:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

self-defense tho right?

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah but still

J0rdan S., Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

12. Claudine Longet
13. Joe Meek
14. Gucci Mane

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

gonna make a dope mixtape

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

According to the internet, RL Burnside actually served jailtime! “I didn’t mean to kill nobody, I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord.”

so I'll count that as more confirmed than legend
15. RL Burnside

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kind of wild that all these people made awesome music.

Obviously except grime dude who i've never heard of and will assume sucks because lol grime

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

are you reaally trying to make an all-inclusive list with this? idgi

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm trying to make a list

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

i know i've been very cryptic and shadowy about that, what with my numbered list and all

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 05:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

aight you're well on your way, w/ 14 ppl in the history of recorded music, gl

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 16 January 2011 06:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for helping!!!!

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 16 January 2011 06:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

great thread! thanks for the laffs!

scott seward, Sunday, 16 January 2011 06:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Obviously except grime dude who i've never heard of and will assume sucks because lol grime

Sing Along was alright IIRC. or you could use him slewing Dizzee as a hidden track

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Sunday, 16 January 2011 06:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

c-murder is serving time for murder

ice cr?m, Sunday, 16 January 2011 06:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

hence his name

scott seward, Sunday, 16 January 2011 06:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

its unironic

ice cr?m, Sunday, 16 January 2011 06:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

his name is c murder because he sees murder. doesn't necessarily commit murder.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 16 January 2011 07:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

if c stands for commit, you must not acquit

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Sunday, 16 January 2011 09:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Phil Spector

President Keyes, Sunday, 16 January 2011 11:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

...was already mentioned i see

President Keyes, Sunday, 16 January 2011 11:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

did Snoop's bodyguard ever release a rap cd, cuz then ...him

five deadly venoms (San Te), Sunday, 16 January 2011 14:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Which rappers do you think will have actually killed someone within the next 2 years?

five deadly venoms (San Te), Sunday, 16 January 2011 14:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

1. Whiney G. Weingarten

ilxor, Sunday, 16 January 2011 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

(assuming he raps)

ilxor, Sunday, 16 January 2011 15:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

five deadly venoms (San Te), Sunday, 16 January 2011 15:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn now I kinda want to be on 77 if only so i can read that sandwich thread

bernard snowy, Sunday, 16 January 2011 16:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Rakim killed 21 guys on "My Melody."
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, October 3, 2005 3:01 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark

lolol

bernard snowy, Sunday, 16 January 2011 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Spade Cooley, Western Swing star:

In 1961, his wife Ella Mae, age 37, expressed her wish to be divorced, and a drunken Cooley responded by beating her and stomping on her body until she died. Cooley was convicted of first-degree murder by a Kern County jury, and he was sentenced to life in prison.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 01:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

gucci killed a dude iirc
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:27 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

yep
― J0rdan S., Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:16 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

self-defense tho right?
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:21 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah but still
― J0rdan S., Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:22 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

love this

busytits (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 01:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wouldn't it be kind of funny if like one of the guys from De La Soul or P.M. Dawn had capped someone? It would totally be shocking.

i was talking to this dude who runs a club on the german/swiss border, who gets a lot of varied acts coming through. one time they had de la soul playing there, and he said they were total pricks. they got there, were like "where are our fucking drugs!" and proceeded to mope around in the dressing room till a suitable amount of cocaine was sourced. after the show, which was apparently all of 15 minutes long, they retired to the bar where they proceeded to be such complete assholes that one of the bartenders was finally like "yeah, i'll get you your drink if you'll start acting like a decent human being" or something, whereupon one de la dude jumped over the bar, grabbed a bottle, smashed it and started attacking the staff with it. clubowner dude jumps in and gets a scar across his face for the trouble. i saw it (it's what what prompted the discussion) and it was a big ass scary fuckin scar, right across dudes face, just barely missing the eyeball.

i can't really 100% confirm the story, but i hung with this dude for several days and he seemed like a believable guy. and it *was* first hand, not "this happened to my bro's best friend" or whatever.

flip side, de la played my college back in 88 and showed up at my friends house party afterwards, and apparently they were all totally nice guys. i guess 10-15 years of snorting drugs while everyone kisses your ass no matter what you do can change ya.

messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 07:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was talking to this dude who runs a club on the german/swiss border, who gets a lot of varied acts coming through. one time they had de la soul playing there, and he said they were total pricks. they got there, were like "where are our fucking drugs!" and proceeded to mope around in the dressing room till a suitable amount of cocaine was sourced. after the show, which was apparently all of 15 minutes long, they retired to the bar where they proceeded to be such complete assholes that one of the bartenders was finally like "yeah, i'll get you your drink if you'll start acting like a decent human being" or something, whereupon one de la dude jumped over the bar, grabbed a bottle, smashed it and started attacking the staff with it. clubowner dude jumps in and gets a scar across his face for the trouble. i saw it (it's what what prompted the discussion) and it was a big ass scary fuckin scar, right across dudes face, just barely missing the eyeball.

i can't really 100% confirm the story, but i hung with this dude for several days and he seemed like a believable guy. and it *was* first hand, not "this happened to my bro's best friend" or whatever.

flip side, de la played my college back in 88 and showed up at my friends house party afterwards, and apparently they were all totally nice guys. i guess 10-15 years of snorting drugs while everyone kisses your ass no matter what you do can change ya.

― messiahwannabe, Monday, January 17, 2011 11:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Oh fuck off

ice cr?m tee (lpz), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 00:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

cold bloooooooodeed

five deadly venoms (San Te), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 03:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh fuck off

don't make me jump over the bar and cut yo face with a broken bottle

ps. i'm not even sure why you're telling me to fuck off.

messiahwannabe, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 09:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Other rappers have talked about De La being a lot more thugged out than their image would indicate.

President Keyes, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Pres, and they address that on De La Soul Is Dead, but Mesiahwannabe's story, or rather the story the club owner on the German/Swiss border told him, sounds fucking ridiculous.

ice cr?m tee (lpz), Thursday, 20 January 2011 02:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

no wai my cousin said

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 January 2011 02:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sure, I just mean that recent cocaine-damaged De Le assholism isn't completely out of character as per rep. I dunno if it's necessarily worse than, say, Big Pun smashing Rocafella dudes over the head with champagne bottles and Fat Joe trying to smooth things over. Intoxicated demons, etc.

President Keyes, Thursday, 20 January 2011 02:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

i dunno, someone mentioned thinking it would be funny to hear de la soul thug stories, and once i met a guy with a huge scar on his face he said he got from plug one-of-the-members in a bar fight. what's ridiculous exactly? for the record, i hung with this guy for like 5 days once when i was on vacation, he only got started on the stories a few days in when we discovered we worked in the same industry, and all his other stories were just realistic-detail laden stories about semi-obscure indie bands he liked coming through his club, and, like, liquor zoning laws in europe and their effect on club going demographics. it's possible the story was bullshit, but i thought he was believable. i've certainly heard the "band shows up, demands drug X, won't play till they get it" story before from friends who've worked in clubs.

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

goddamnit, i hate it when i kill a thread by being all reasonable, explaining myself, etc. umm, jay-z totally killed someone, but his lawyers told him not to bring it up, ever.

messiahwannabe, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Which rappers do you think may have actually killed a thread in the past?

some dude, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

when when ?uestlove posts on okplayer, trolls shut the fuck up

i don't suppose he's ever killed anyone though.

messiahwannabe, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

<waits for the ?uestlove thug stories to roll in>

messiahwannabe, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

when when ?uestlove posts on okplayer, trolls shut the fuck up

classic material

basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

No-one's said Schooly D.

Classic throwaway line in Chuck Eddy's "The Accidental Evolution of Rock and Roll": "Schooly D. used to mug old ladies or study art or something..."

ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Q-Tip once beheaded a dude for saying a lake wasn't beautiful

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

C Murder appears to be out of luck.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 4 March 2012 07:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Strange story about Q-Tip.

That sounds like dark humour. Or is there more to it ?

Dirk, Friday, 14 June 2013 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it's not happening til the next season of GoT

some dude, Friday, 14 June 2013 01:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Strange story about Q-Tip.

That sounds like dark humour. Or is there more to it ?

― Dirk, Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah man. behind his chill demeanor, Q-Tip is a calculating sociopath. in his wake are many, many bodies.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 June 2013 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

his name is c murder because he sees murder. doesn't necessarily commit murder.― À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:03 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Still LOL at this

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:49 (3 months ago) Permalink


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